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Post by Old School » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:57 pm

quote:Originally posted by Primo:
GG, speaking of business as usual...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

good stuff!


excellent! truth is hard to take , huh snake?

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Post by TOMDOG » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:04 am

Did you notice that fork sticking out of McCains back at the end of the debate?

Thats gotta hurt.

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Post by richieprimo » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:53 am

I know this is a long post, but I had to share it with some people...(spoiler warning...Snake will NOT like it).


Dear Mr. Obama,

It is August 30, 2008. My name is Mark Gregg. I am a 50 something conservative white male. I have followed your campaign closely, including the speeches you and others made at the democratic national convention. I am respectfully providing you with seven simple (probably shallow) reasons why I could never vote for you. I believe my opinion is shared by many people. While there may not be quite enough t o prevent you from becoming president of this nation, I do think there is an awakening to the fact that you are not a (the) messiah that the media and liberal Hollywood entertainers are trying to portray you.
I hear your mantra of change, change, change. Yet, you picked a long term, liberal, Washington insider (Joe Biden) to be your running mate. This is NOT change. It is a move that hypocritically refutes the very thing you supposedly stand for. Your campaign then slammed McCain for picking Sarah Palin, apparently, because she is NOT a Washington insider. She is a maverick who cleaned-up Alaska 's quagmire of political scandals. Which way is it, Barack? Is it okay for you to pick a Washington insider under the mantra of 'change', but not okay for John McCain to pick a smart, aggressive, reformer?

You have the single most liberal voting record in the senate. This indicates to me and others like me that you may very well be an angry black man seeking to punish our country for sins of a different generation. I am not racist. I have some biases just like you and every other human alive. Unlike the democratic party who claims to be for the minority (but their record heavily refutes this), I will give any person who truly needs help, help. I married a 'minority' girl 35 years ago (she is Hispanic) and have seen the evils of prejudice first hand. However, I have also seen my wife and my children and others in her family throw off the veil of self imposed prejudicial bondage and move ahead. They love our country and do not view themselves any different than I view myself as a citizen of this country. Your lovely wife s o disappointed people like me during this campaign when she stated it was the first time she had ever been proud of this country. She apparently never noticed the massive aid we give dozens of other countries. She apparently never noticed the sacrifice of literally millions of veterans who helped make this country a free nation and helped liberate other nations from brutal dictators such as Adolf ******. She apparently does not remember that she attended ivy league universities with scholarship money that ultimately (at least some of it) was paid for by our taxes. This troubles me more than you know. She is an angry black woman who appears to not like her country very much. I don't want her representing me to the rest of the world.

You claim Christianity but apparently do not realize that the Bible teaches that he who does not work, does not eat. The Bible does not say or even suggest that he who CANNOT work, should not eat. Yet, your liberal policies reward people who are capable of working, but choose to not do so. This bothers me. I know that if you are elected our taxes will spiral upwards. You should heed the words of Winston Churchill: 'We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.' If I like anything a bout you, it is your campaign promise to balance the federal budget. Unfortunately, we have heard this a huge number of times from a number of different politicians and we realize that when you energize the very liberal Nancy Pelosi, Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy, etc, etc, and the many other democrats like them, a balanced budget will never, ever happen on your watch.

During your question and answer session with Rick Warren of Saddleback Church your answer concerning the question of where does life begin, stunned me: 'Above your pay grade?' Does this mean when something bad happens as President of this nation that you are going to look at your salary to determine if you can respond? I am sorry, but this was the most serious gaffe I have seen you make. Frankly, it shows me that you are pandering in the most obvious manner. You will choose your words not from your heart, but from an agenda that I believe is still hidden from the American people.

If anything stands out about you it is probably your appeasement mentality. In this era of rampant, radical Islamic extremism and with the latest stunt pulled by the re-energized Russian government, I am not sure appeasement is healthy. I again revert to the words of Winston Churchill: 'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.'

You and your party tacitly believe that a 13 or 14 year old girl must have the parents approval to have the school nurse provide them with a Tylenol when they have a headache at school. Yet, this same girl can become pregnant and the school can skirt her off to a clinic and abort the child in her body without the parents knowing or being notified. This scares the hell out of me. You have two little girls. Would you be upset if this happened to them and you were not informed? Then why do you stand for this? It makes no sense to me.

My seventh and final point (for now) is your supporters. I have watched the Hollywood entertainers that support you, systematically embrace Hugo Chavez of Venezuela and others like him. I see the continuous smut and garbage produced by Hollywood , the very people who promote you the most vigorously. It is not a positive point to me and others like me to see these over-paid, bizarre, poor examples of human existence fawn over you and push you and your liberal agenda as hard as they do. The way that I see it; When the devil is for you, we should question whether or not we shou ld be against you.

In closing, I just want you to know that you scare me. I cannot vote for you. It is not because of your skin color. It is because these items and many, many others like them. Do not claim that my dislike for you is race based. It is because I do not feel you have the best interests of this nation at heart.
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Post by Coltsfan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:36 am

Primo,

Did you write that?

That is VERY well said!!! I"m with you 100%.


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Post by BLACKHAND » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:18 pm

rich , that is a masterpiece. great !
THIS IS THE BUSINESS WE HAVE CHOSEN

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Post by richieprimo » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:47 pm

Sorry that I can't accept credit for that one, guys. I'm not that articulate, but it makes for great reading. Thanks anyway.
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Post by richieprimo » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:57 am

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Post by GOD Loves You » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:50 pm

Originally posted by Old School:
quote:Originally posted by Primo:
GG, speaking of business as usual...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

good stuff!


excellent! truth is hard to take , huh snake? Did Fox News make this video? :D

Do you really think that was all truth? More like partial truth. Bush and the Replublicans had just as much to do with this mess as the Democrats. I love how both sides and members of each side blame the other, instead of working together to change things.

Oh wait, they did, they passed a $700 billion bailout....only after they added plenty of pork. Millions in breaks for racing tracks? :confused: Money for the movie and TV industry?? :confused: Tax breaks for wooden arrows for children? Well, this one isn't that bad, we have to think of the children. :rolleyes: The original $700 billion was to much to pass, but add in the pork and it's just right.

WTF is wrong with these people? Better yet, what is wrong with all of us for allowing it? "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".
FAITH IS NOT BELIEVING THAT GOD CAN....
IT IS KNOWING THAT HE WILL

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