What does it take to win?

JerseyPaul · Post by **JerseyPaul** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:15 pm

Interesting how much things have changed just since that published draft, not even counting that some of the guys (GG) deliberately reached to make the results unusable.

This is going to be a wide open draft with lots of surprises. So many new names. The RB list is deeper than I can ever remember, but full of question marks. It will be possible to get a decent RB in the middle rounds, if you're lucky enough to choose the right guy. The WR list also has lots of relatively new names.

I think that the hth results will be closer than ever. In WCOFF, you needed to go 8-3 to have a legitimate shot. In NFFC, I think 9-4 will be competitive and an 8-5 team might be involved in a tie break for top place.

With no real jerks drafting, I could see:

9-4 (1)
8-5 (2)
7-6 (3)
6-7 (3)
5-8 (2)
4-7 (2)
3-9 (1)

Critical will be luck of the draw. The winning team will not only be good, but it will get 2 or 3 of the top 7 RBs on their bye. It will be very difficult to win when your RB1 is on a bye.

Hmmm, the more I type, the more I think luck is a pretty big factor. What a surprise.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:35 pm

Originally posted by JerseyPaul:
Interesting how much things have changed just since that published draft, not even counting that some of the guys (GG) deliberately reached to make the results unusable.

Did anyone draft players they REALLY wanted?

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:18 am

First of all, luckis a huge factor. What if I said, (purely hyptothetical) between Duce Staley and Thomas Jones, ONE of them will be a top 10 RB, and the other willl be benched by Week 5!

Could anyone out there predict which one would succeed and which one would fail with 100% accuracy? Apparently not, as I have seen countless rankings where these guys are right next to each other, some with Jones ranked higher, some with Staley ranked higher, etc. The bottom line is the guy who picks the right RB looks like a genius, and the other guy goes down the toilet. All because one is preferred a little more than another. NOTE: if you feel Jones will be much better than Duce or vice-versa, then substitute two players you are "on the fence" with.

Luck is ALWAYS a factor, and like Jersey Paul stated, there shouldn't be any idiots "reaching" for players, so all the leagues should be pretty competitive.

As far you Gekko, come on...... we all know you are going to do whatever it takes to get Curtis Martin!

(even it means taking him in the 2nd round!)

[ July 31, 2004, 08:19 AM: Message edited by: BillyWaz ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:02 am

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
Luck is ALWAYS a factorThat's correct, and that's where you should have stopped.

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
like Jersey Paul stated, there shouldn't be any idiots "reaching" for players, so all the leagues should be pretty competitive.WRONG! Just like in the WCOFF and NFBC there were "some" owners who didn't have a clue. If you can't pick out the clueless owner(s) by round 5, it's you.

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
As far you Gekko, come on...... we all know you are going to do whatever it takes to get Curtis Martin!

(even it means taking him in the 2nd round!)

What's wrong with Martin?

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:18 am

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
like Jersey Paul stated, there shouldn't be any idiots "reaching" for players, so all the leagues should be pretty competitive.WRONG! Just like in the WCOFF and NFBC there were "some" owners who didn't have a clue. If you can't pick out the clueless owner(s) by round 5, it's you.

All I am trying to point out Gecko is there shouldn't be as many "idiots" as you are used to playing with, so you may need a little luck to be successful (by "you" I mean all of us!)

You have some SERIOUS "gotta be in control problems" Gekko. You love to just tell everyone they are "WRONG!", like you are the authority or something! :rolleyes:

A little advice.... "I disagree" sounds much better than "WRONG!" as you don't come off nearly as arrogant.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:32 am

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
All I am trying to point out Gecko is there shouldn't be as many "idiots" as you are used to playing with, so you may need a little luck to be successful (by "you" I mean all of us!)You're getting there. In a 14 team league, I'm gonna guess that ~3 owners won't have a chance of winning some $ coming directly out of the draft.

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
You have some SERIOUS "gotta be in control problems" Gekko. You love to just tell everyone they are "WRONG!", like you are the authority or something! :rolleyes: In my line of work, I have to be in control. Sorry, that's the way it goes.

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
A little advice.... "I disagree" sounds much better than "WRONG!" as you don't come off nearly as arrogant. I'm really not arrogant once you meet me.

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:06 am

What line of work are you in Gecko?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:21 am

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
What line of work are you in Gecko? "Acquisitions"