Damn you Manning

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:09 pm

Originally posted by Dyv:
Why would we want MORE people eligible for the playoffs to solve a problem that doesn't need to exist? I absolutely LOVE the fact that only 32 teams are going to go for the $100k this year. Why make that number 36 or 41? Why not just take everyone to the playoffs if it's not going to be based on championship teams ONLY ?The number of teams that actually MAKE the playoffs is actually quite nice. We agree on that, I think. However, I think it's great that so many teams are alive for a playoff berth with just one or two weeks remaining. More teams that are in it until the end will lead to more repeat customers. Greg and Tom, are you listening?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:14 pm

Originally posted by Dyv:
Here's another scenario... what if one league had 8 complete morons drafting teams and 6 guys who really knew what they were doing. The morons didn't even bother with FA picks so the top 6 teams got all the best FA after having the best drafted teams as well. What if in this ONE league, 4 of those 6 teams were in the top 10% and even beyond that, were so loaded that they took places 1-4 in the overall contest. Wouldn't that be grand?with the CURRENT setup, teams from the same league can come in 1st and 2nd overall. you are worried about 3rd and 4th overall?

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:18 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Dyv:
Here's another scenario... what if one league had 8 complete morons drafting teams and 6 guys who really knew what they were doing. The morons didn't even bother with FA picks so the top 6 teams got all the best FA after having the best drafted teams as well. What if in this ONE league, 4 of those 6 teams were in the top 10% and even beyond that, were so loaded that they took places 1-4 in the overall contest. Wouldn't that be grand?with the CURRENT setup, teams from the same league can come in 1st and 2nd overall. you are worried about 3rd and 4th overall? [/QUOTE]Nope, just 4 in the top 10% and gaining the big money level. Or even better, 4 in the top 10% plus some bad team who got lucky and went 10-3 and 5 teams from the same league make the big cash round.

Who's to say, right? Crazy things are happening all over.

Dyv

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:19 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:
However, I think it's great that so many teams are alive for a playoff berth with just one or two weeks remaining. More teams that are in it until the end will lead to more repeat customers. Greg and Tom, are you listening? let's have week 13 scores count triple. that will enable more teams to stay in it till the end. repeat customers... kinda silly

there's a happy medium between # of teams making the playoffs and quality of teams making the playoffs. under the current set-up, adding a few wildcard slots would benefit the NFFC as well as the fantasy owner.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:21 pm

Originally posted by Dyv:
Nope, just 4 in the top 10% and gaining the big money level. Or even better, 4 in the top 10% plus some bad team who got lucky and went 10-3 and 5 teams from the same league make the big cash round.

Who's to say, right? Crazy things are happening all over.

Dyv if that's a legit concern, cap it at a maximum of three teams in any one league.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:22 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:
However, I think it's great that so many teams are alive for a playoff berth with just one or two weeks remaining. More teams that are in it until the end will lead to more repeat customers. Greg and Tom, are you listening? let's have week 13 scores count triple. that will enable more teams to stay in it till the end. repeat customers... kinda silly

there's a happy medium between # of teams making the playoffs and quality of teams making the playoffs. under the current set-up, adding a few wildcard slots would benefit the NFFC as well as the fantasy owner. [/QUOTE]"A few" wild card slots? Would you regulate it to say '2' or '3' MAX?

Two teams from each league is enough. Figure out the fairest way to select those 2 teams and be done with all of these chickenwire patch jobs.

Dyv

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:31 pm

Originally posted by Dyv:
"A few" wild card slots? Would you regulate it to say '2' or '3' MAX?

Two teams from each league is enough. Figure out the fairest way to select those 2 teams and be done with all of these chickenwire patch jobs.

Dyv if the H2H format does not change and/or playoff structure, you will have owners who have done very well (could be #2 overall point leader after week 13) not making the playoffs. probably won't be the happiest owners to be around. repeat customers? could it be a reverse-marketing tool used by some start-up high stakes fantasy football event, "I finished with the second most points out of 600 teams in the regular season, and i didn't make the playoffs. I got a pat on the back, along with a sorry...better LUCK next year"

[ November 29, 2004, 07:32 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:33 pm

Originally posted by Dyv:
Figure out the fairest way to select those 2 teams and be done with all of these chickenwire patch jobs.the "fairest way" is not always the chosen way. blind bidding on draft slots anyone?

LB Big Richards · Post by **LB Big Richards** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:03 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

would you want the chance of having the team that's #2 overall after week 13 to not make the playoffs? that's not fair. the outcry would be loud and detrimental to this event. [/QB]GG, can you please stop mentioning the "#2 overall" team not making the playoffs. His team will and it was never seriously in doubt.

I like the current H2H format. And I've had a 2 point win and a 0.5 point loss this season. The thrill of the matchup each week sets FFL apart from the other fantasy games. I like playing matchups, tinkering with the starting lineup and free agent pickups to a certain extent. Knowing exactly how many points you need from your RB on MNF is intriguing. I know scheduling luck has its drawbacks but I bet it has a positive effect too. We just don't hear the complaints when a team lucks out on a win. I think I can safely say that everyone understands luck comes into play in many different forms (i.e. your starting QB getting knocked out in the first quarter). Does this mean we should incorporate a QBBC rule?

Hojin

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:31 pm

Interestingly enough, Gordon's #2 overall team example would be MORE likely to occur with some of these modified H2H proposals.

Under the current system, the chances are pretty remote of a Top 10 team not making the playoffs. Gordon, have you worked out the permutations yet?