Trendsetters 2012

[kentucky]

Thanks, and I'm sure you correct because of your expertise, but I totally disagree with you. I'm not at all worried about Kevin (IR) Smith, Danny (selling used cars, because the league is catching up his purpose) Woodhead, and Shannahan's (fit my system... ala TDavis) RB situation.

BTW, my next pick is Bryce Harper,,,i want my best chances for points in Washington.

[RiFF]

Originally posted by Thunder:

WR: absolutetly love AJGreen. I took Calvin at 4, AJ may put up better numbers. I might agree with the AJ comment if you were referring to Andre but I suspect you mean Green. Can someone please explain to me why everyone seems so gaga over AJ Green this year. Granted, he had a pretty good rookie campaign but still only averaged around 14 ppg. He has a noodle arm QB, plays in crap weather in Nov/Dec in Cincy, Balt, Pitt and Cleve which was reflected in his stats over the 2nd half of last season vs the 1st half; and although Simpson wasn't great he was a better 2nd receiver than Cincy will probably have this year meaning teams will undoubtedly roll coverage to Green even more than last year. I also like Green as a player, but given his current situation I can't see him improving materially over last year's stats. I'll admit I definitely could be wrong on Green considering I said similar things about Gronk prior to last season. Of course Gronk had Brady/Belichick not Dalton/Lewis.

[Coltsfan]

Originally posted by RiFF:
quote:Originally posted by Thunder:

WR: absolutetly love AJGreen. I took Calvin at 4, AJ may put up better numbers. I might agree with the AJ comment if you were referring to Andre but I suspect you mean Green. Can someone please explain to me why everyone seems so gaga over AJ Green this year. Granted, he had a pretty good rookie campaign but still only averaged around 14 ppg. He has a noodle arm QB, plays in crap weather in Nov/Dec in Cincy, Balt, Pitt and Cleve which was reflected in his stats over the 2nd half of last season vs the 1st half; and although Simpson wasn't great he was a better 2nd receiver than Cincy will probably have this year meaning teams will undoubtedly roll coverage to Green even more than last year. I also like Green as a player, but given his current situation I can't see him improving materially over last year's stats. I'll admit I definitely could be wrong on Green considering I said similar things about Gronk prior to last season. Of course Gronk had Brady/Belichick not Dalton/Lewis. [/QUOTE]In the few drafts that I have been involved in Green has been going a full round higher than what I have him. I definitely think that he could be a bit better than last year but I like him better in the third round.

Bill - you definitely have enough talent on the roster to win this. My biggest concern is that you have to trust Bellicheck and Shannahan to win this and you have to hope that LeShoure and Best either play or stay healthy. Just a look of potential problems at RB. If the starts align then you are gold.


Wayne

[Greg Ambrosius]

This is the industry's first fantasy football draft of the season with veteran HSFF players and the results deserve plenty of merit. Thanks to all of these guys for setting the Trend for future drafts and digging into the rankings and ratings before anyone else did. Thanks also to Rob for posting a spreadsheet of the First 11 Rounds. I thought I'd update those in text form so that it's a little easier to read:

NFFC Trendsetters League
Round 1:

1. Arian Foster
2. Ray Rice
3. LeSean McCoy
4. Calvin Johnson
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Drew Brees
7. Tom Brady
8. Maurice Jones Drew
9. Matt Forte
10. Andre Johnson
11. Ryan Mathews
12. Rob Gronkowski
13. Jimmy Graham
14. Wes Welker

Round 2:
15. Chris Johnson
16. Roddy White
17. Larry Fitzgerald
18. Cam Newton
19. Brandon Marshall
20. Darren McFadden
21. Matthew Stafford
22. Hakeem Nicks
23. Greg Jennings
24. Darren Sproles
25. AJ Green
26. Victor Cruz
27. Mike Wallace
28. Michael Vick

Round 3:
29. Jordy Nelson
30. Marques Colston
31. Jamaal Charles
32. Percy Harvin
33. Steve Smith
34. Steven Jackson
35. Julio Jones
36. Demarco Murray
37. Miles Austin
38. Rookie #1
39. Dwayne Bowe
40. Jeremy Maclin
41. Marshawn Lynch
42. Dez Bryant

Round 4
43. Kenny Britt
44. Vincent Jackson
45. Stevie Johnson
46. Eli Manning
47. Antonio Brown
48. Shonn Greene
49. Aaron Hernandez
50. Brandon Lloyd
51. Tony Romo
52. Phillip Rivers
53. Vernon davis
54. Michael Crabtree
55. Matt Ryan
56. Ahmad Bradshaw

Round 5:
57. Jason Witten
58. Demaryius Thomas
59. Rookie 2
60. Fred Jackson
61. Frank Gore
62. Ben Roethlisberger
63. Matt Schaub
64. Brandon Pettigrew
65. Antonio Gates
66. CJ Spiller
67. Roy Helu
68. Peyton Hillis
69. Peyton Manning
70. Jermichael Finley

Round 6:
71. Adrian Peterson
72. Tim Tebow
73. Fred Davis
74. Mikel Leshoure
75. Torrey Smith
76. Reggie Bush
77. Pierre Garcon
78. Tony Gonzalez
79. Jonathan Stewart
80. Reggie Wayne
81. Michael Bush
82. Jay Cutler
83. Carson Palmer
84. Andy Dalton

Round 7:
85. Mike Williams
86. Michael Turner
87. Joe Flacco
88. Denarius Moore
89. Isaac Redman
90. DeSean Jackson
91. Laurent Robinson
92. Titus Young
93. Greg Little
94. Santonio Holmes
95. Brent Celek
96. Mark Ingram
97. Chris Wells
98. Ben Tate

Round 8:
99. Matt Flynn
100. Rookie 3
101. Josh Freeman
102. Jahvid Best
103. Jermaine Gresham
104. DeAngelo Williams
105. Pierre Thomas
106. Dustin Keller
107. Lance Moore
108. Jared Cook
109. Malcolm Floyd
110. Mike Tolbert
111. Kevin Smith
112. Mark Sanchez

Thoughts?

[ April 16, 2012, 11:27 AM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

[Glenneration X]

Originally posted by Coltsfan:
quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:
The fourth phase of Trendsetters has ended and this my team through 21 rounds......

QB - Peyton Manning
QB - Tim Tebow

RB - Ray Rice
RB - Marshawn Lynch
RB - Beanie Wells
RB - Joseph Addai

WR - Mike Wallace
WR - Vincent Jackson
WR - Sidney Rice
WR - Santana Moss
WR - Eric Decker

TE - Dallas Clark
TE - Evan Moore

K - Sebastian Janikowski
K - Dan Carpenter

D - Vikings
D - Rams

I also loaded up with the 3rd, 8th, 10th, and 11th picks in the rookie draft, so I hope to fill a couple holes with prospects in a couple weeks. The rookie draft and what I'm able to obtain with these picks will probably go a long way in determining what kind of season I end up having. The off season hasn't been good to you so far Glenn. Tebow losing his starting role, Washington bringing in new WR's, Tamme following Manning instead of Clark. You're going to have to catch something at TE. Maybe Clark will stay in Indy and become Luck's favorite target. I think I might have grabbed another TE or two instead of come of the rookie picks. It's really tough to get a rookie TE that does anything outside of NE.


Wayne [/QUOTE]Hey Bud, good job with the writeups on our drafts thus far. Very insightful. Though I enjoyed Rob's comments on my draft after the previous phase a bit more than yours after this one.

I do agree with your analysis though. The off-season moves have left me with some big holes to fill. Still I do have those 4 rookie picks and with the second pick of the phase following the rookie draft, I realistically have five. Now if I can just turn those picks into the rookie seasons of Cam Newton, Adrian Peterson, Randy Moss, and Rob Gronkowski/Aaron Hernandez, problems solved. Should be easy enough.

[Coltsfan]

Originally posted by Glenneration X:
quote:Originally posted by Coltsfan:
quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:
The fourth phase of Trendsetters has ended and this my team through 21 rounds......

QB - Peyton Manning
QB - Tim Tebow

RB - Ray Rice
RB - Marshawn Lynch
RB - Beanie Wells
RB - Joseph Addai

WR - Mike Wallace
WR - Vincent Jackson
WR - Sidney Rice
WR - Santana Moss
WR - Eric Decker

TE - Dallas Clark
TE - Evan Moore

K - Sebastian Janikowski
K - Dan Carpenter

D - Vikings
D - Rams

I also loaded up with the 3rd, 8th, 10th, and 11th picks in the rookie draft, so I hope to fill a couple holes with prospects in a couple weeks. The rookie draft and what I'm able to obtain with these picks will probably go a long way in determining what kind of season I end up having. The off season hasn't been good to you so far Glenn. Tebow losing his starting role, Washington bringing in new WR's, Tamme following Manning instead of Clark. You're going to have to catch something at TE. Maybe Clark will stay in Indy and become Luck's favorite target. I think I might have grabbed another TE or two instead of come of the rookie picks. It's really tough to get a rookie TE that does anything outside of NE.


Wayne [/QUOTE]Hey Bud, good job with the writeups on our drafts thus far. Very insightful. Though I enjoyed Rob's comments on my draft after the previous phase a bit more than yours after this one.

I do agree with your analysis though. The off-season moves have left me with some big holes to fill. Still I do have those 4 rookie picks and with the second pick of the phase following the rookie draft, I realistically have five. Now if I can just turn those picks into the rookie seasons of Cam Newton, Adrian Peterson, Randy Moss, and Rob Gronkowski/Aaron Hernandez, problems solved. Should be easy enough. [/QUOTE]With people like Jack Haan picking in front of you there should be lots of opportunity for real values to fall to you!


Wayne

[Ted's Cracked Head]

Here is my updated team after 21 rounds:

QB: Cutler (6) and Flacco (7)
RB: Charles (3), Tolbert (8), Taiwan Jones (12), Delone Carter (17), Danny Ware (18)
WR: Fitzgerald (2), Crabtree (4), Manningham (9), Andre Roberts (10), Breaston (15)
TE: Gronkowski (1), Heap (20)
PK: Gould (14) and Succop (16)
DEF: SEA (13), MIA (19), JAX (21)

I also have rookie picks 2 and 7 prior to the final phase of drafting. Now what to do with those two picks is another question. If a second RB gets drafted by a team and has a chance to start, I may have to pass on Luck or RG3. My needs at RB may too great right now.

QB: Cutler and the self-proclaimed top 5 QB Joe Flacco may have to lead this team. I was pretty sure the Bears would make some WR moves to help him out and I think they aren't done just yet.

RB: Eggs and basket meet Jamaal Charles. I still don't get why Tolbert went to CAR when there were better "fantasy" destinations? The rest of my kids should touch the field and are behind RBs who have issues. It could work out but I think I need to "hit" on a solid rookie with the #2 pick.

WR: I am not getting too warm of a fuzzy feeling with my core. Having waited at QB and RB, you would think that my wrs might look better on paper. I liked the Crabtree/Mham combo more without Moss in the mix. I reached for both Crabtree and Roberts and now I am having a little buyers remorse. I wanted Doucet to corner the AZ market but Jack made sure that didn't happen.

TE: I kept waiting and waiting for my second TE and have to wonder if Carter was a better pick in the 17th than Martellus Bennett would have been? Todd heap was a decent pick in the 21st especially since I own most of the Cards passing O. I really wanted Chandler but he went just 2 picks ahead of me to Donny.

PK: B+

DEF: Forced to take a third one in the 21st since the other two aren't necessarily great. I do have a hunch that the SEA D is going to be worth owning.

We'll also have to see how the bye weeks play out tomorrow when the schedules get released. It will have some impact on the rest of my picks. I may have screwed the pooch taking so many SF/AZ wrs.

[bald is beautiful]

Originally posted by Coltsfan:
quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:
quote:Originally posted by Coltsfan:
quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:
The fourth phase of Trendsetters has ended and this my team through 21 rounds......

QB - Peyton Manning
QB - Tim Tebow

RB - Ray Rice
RB - Marshawn Lynch
RB - Beanie Wells
RB - Joseph Addai

WR - Mike Wallace
WR - Vincent Jackson
WR - Sidney Rice
WR - Santana Moss
WR - Eric Decker

TE - Dallas Clark
TE - Evan Moore

K - Sebastian Janikowski
K - Dan Carpenter

D - Vikings
D - Rams

I also loaded up with the 3rd, 8th, 10th, and 11th picks in the rookie draft, so I hope to fill a couple holes with prospects in a couple weeks. The rookie draft and what I'm able to obtain with these picks will probably go a long way in determining what kind of season I end up having. The off season hasn't been good to you so far Glenn. Tebow losing his starting role, Washington bringing in new WR's, Tamme following Manning instead of Clark. You're going to have to catch something at TE. Maybe Clark will stay in Indy and become Luck's favorite target. I think I might have grabbed another TE or two instead of come of the rookie picks. It's really tough to get a rookie TE that does anything outside of NE.


Wayne [/QUOTE]Hey Bud, good job with the writeups on our drafts thus far. Very insightful. Though I enjoyed Rob's comments on my draft after the previous phase a bit more than yours after this one.

I do agree with your analysis though. The off-season moves have left me with some big holes to fill. Still I do have those 4 rookie picks and with the second pick of the phase following the rookie draft, I realistically have five. Now if I can just turn those picks into the rookie seasons of Cam Newton, Adrian Peterson, Randy Moss, and Rob Gronkowski/Aaron Hernandez, problems solved. Should be easy enough. [/QUOTE]With people like Jack Haan picking in front of you there should be lots of opportunity for real values to fall to you!


Wayne [/QUOTE]You are just lucky I'm not talking on these boards anymore.

[Glenneration X]

I just made my last two picks of the rookie phase of the Trendsetters draft. Donnie needs to make his pick and then the rookie phase is over. I had 4 of the 12 total picks, having traded my 8th, 16th, 19th, and 20th picks in the main draft for the 3rd, 8th, 10th, and 11th picks in the rookie draft. I had significant needs at QB and TE that I was hoping to address in the rookie phase and believe I was able to snag the top rookie options to fortify those positions with my first two choices. With my last two choices, my goal was to roster a pair of players who considering talent and situation could make a potential impact this season. We'll see soon enough if I chose right.

QB - Peyton Manning
QB - Tim Tebow
QB - RG III

RB - Ray Rice
RB - Marshawn Lynch
RB - Beanie Wells
RB - Joseph Addai

WR - Mike Wallace
WR - Vincent Jackson
WR - Sidney Rice
WR - Santana Moss
WR - Eric Decker
WR - Alshon Jefferey
WR - Rueben Randle

TE - Dallas Clark
TE - Evan Moore
TE - Coby Fleener

K - Sebastian Janikowski
K - Dan Carpenter

D - Vikings
D - Rams

We now go into the final phase (9 rounds) of the Trendsetters draft where I hope to be able to grab one more potential impact rookie with the 2nd pick in that phase. I have a few players I am interested in. Which I choose will depend on what Donnie does with the last pick of the rookie phase and what Dan does with the first pick of the final main phase. Looking forward to completing this draft and seeing how this team does in a few months. Trendsetters is always a blast and always an experience.

[boutrous11]

didn't know you guys allowed trades...