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Re: I'm confused.....

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:45 am
by Cocktails and Dreams
It appears to be a dumb rule on the surface for sure. And it appears to be a dumb rule in reality as well. Obviously Schwartz screwed the pooch mangling the rule. That has absolutely nothing to do with the rule being a good one or not.

Re: I'm confused.....

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:04 am
by JETS SB
Personally I think one part of the rule is good and one part isn't. I agree that the head coach should get a penalty for throwing the red flag in a situation like that. If you don't have that rule, then it will get out of control with throwing the flag in every situation the head coach feels appropriate. There has to be some rule instituted for this. The part that I disagree with is, even though he did throw the challenge flag, the penalty should be enough punishment. They should still review the play and get it right, since it was a scoring play.

Re: I'm confused.....

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:33 am
by Cocktails and Dreams
That makes sense.

Re: I'm confused.....

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:24 am
by Greg Ambrosius
JETS SB wrote:Personally I think one part of the rule is good and one part isn't. I agree that the head coach should get a penalty for throwing the red flag in a situation like that. If you don't have that rule, then it will get out of control with throwing the flag in every situation the head coach feels appropriate. There has to be some rule instituted for this. The part that I disagree with is, even though he did throw the challenge flag, the penalty should be enough punishment. They should still review the play and get it right, since it was a scoring play.
Finally, some common sense. This makes too much sense for the NFL to implement it.

It's hard to believe that the NFL could be so innovative as to use replay to get calls right, yet have a rule in place that allows a wrong call to still go forward. I mean, how dumb is that? Like you said, then have the scoring play ruled as intended and penalize the team for delaying the game with the red flag. BUT STILL, GET THE CALL RIGHT!!

Touchdown is overturned and the Lions are penalized 15 yards from where his knee hit the ground. First down and it's still 24-14.

Re: I'm confused.....

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:31 am
by Cocktails and Dreams
I think it should simply be a lost challenge and a time out that goes with it. Impacts ability to challenge rest of game potentially. If out of challenges and it is thrown then I am okay with the rule as it is. It should be severe then. Possibly a delay of game penalty makes sense also instead.

Re: I'm confused.....

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:32 am
by Captain Hook
True wiljro

and it will be changed for next year so they CAN get plays right - maybe they will just punish Schwartz and the other dumb coaches MORE but as Peter King said after the game (and nobody has connections like that guy) the rule WILL be changed.

Re: I'm confused.....

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:40 am
by Money
It will be changed, it has to be changed.

I wonder how much more lively this thread would've been had it been Foster with the run instead of Forsett? In reality it probably took away an opportunity from Foster as Houston no longer had the ball and he didn't figure into that drive.