Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

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Re: Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

Post by Sandman62 » Tue May 28, 2013 9:20 am

In a local keeper league, I was considering keeping Kaepernick at $16 over Rodgers at $53 and using the extra $ elsewhere. Not feeling that approach so much now though. :(

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Re: Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

Post by Hoosier Daddy » Tue May 28, 2013 11:24 am

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Tom Kessenich wrote:The Niners have to add someone at WR in my opinion. I've been Tweeting that Brandon Lloyd makes the most sense. Without Crabtree, the Niners may have the worst WR corps in the league. Boldin's ancient, Manningham's hurt (and not a No. 1 anyway) and Jenkins was a huge bust as a rookie. I don't see how they can expect to solve this from within.
Yeah I think they add a receiver also but Lloyd is highly unlikely to me just because of the type of player Baalke and Harbaugh like on their team which are hard working football players.
Randy Moss is/was the opposite of a hard-working player and the Niners (foolishly in my opinion) signed him last season. Lloyd is Jerry Rice compared to Moss right now. I agree Lloyd is a headcase but the Niners' WR situation looks putrid to me. I think they have to roll the dice and take a chance. I don't see any other WR available who is as talented as Lloyd.
Tom you do make a valid point about Moss - from what I recall last summer he was playing the good sport working hard and being a mentor/playing the good soldier (thanks a lot Randy worked out well for AJ Jenkins :roll:) but of course we all know who he really is. I still don't think it's a fit with Lloyd but understand why you may think it would be. I guess we'll see what happens. If he's healthy (big if) I'd rather give Austin Collie a shot than Lloyd.

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Re: Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

Post by Hoosier Daddy » Tue May 28, 2013 11:29 am

Sandman62 wrote:In a local keeper league, I was considering keeping Kaepernick at $16 over Rodgers at $53 and using the extra $ elsewhere. Not feeling that approach so much now though. :(
So you think Kaepernick is downgraded that much? I don't know much about auction prices but that seems like a bargain still. Vernon Davis should pick up some of the slack for Crabtree, and I'm not sure how much Kaepernick needs an elite WR to be effective. He can throw it into any window with his strong arm and elite accuracy, so the WR doesn't need a ton of separation. I'm still buying Kaepernick, he definitely lost a small amount of value but not to where he should be downgraded that significantly. Just my opinion, and I am a niner fan so I'm biased :D

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Re: Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

Post by JETS SB » Tue May 28, 2013 11:35 am

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Sandman62 wrote:In a local keeper league, I was considering keeping Kaepernick at $16 over Rodgers at $53 and using the extra $ elsewhere. Not feeling that approach so much now though. :(
So you think Kaepernick is downgraded that much? I don't know much about auction prices but that seems like a bargain still. Vernon Davis should pick up some of the slack for Crabtree, and I'm not sure how much Kaepernick needs an elite WR to be effective. He can throw it into any window with his strong arm and elite accuracy, so the WR doesn't need a ton of separation. I'm still buying Kaepernick, he definitely lost a small amount of value but not to where he should be downgraded that significantly. Just my opinion, and I am a niner fan so I'm biased :D
Plus the acquisition of Anquan Boldin cannot be underestimated. He is a solid possession receiver.

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Re: Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

Post by Tom Kessenich » Tue May 28, 2013 11:45 am

I think Collie's done. Just can't see any way he can stay healthy and avoid more concussions at this point. For his own safety I think he should retire.
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Re: Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

Post by Sandman62 » Tue May 28, 2013 12:49 pm

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Sandman62 wrote:In a local keeper league, I was considering keeping Kaepernick at $16 over Rodgers at $53 and using the extra $ elsewhere. Not feeling that approach so much now though. :(
So you think Kaepernick is downgraded that much? I don't know much about auction prices but that seems like a bargain still. Vernon Davis should pick up some of the slack for Crabtree, and I'm not sure how much Kaepernick needs an elite WR to be effective. He can throw it into any window with his strong arm and elite accuracy, so the WR doesn't need a ton of separation. I'm still buying Kaepernick, he definitely lost a small amount of value but not to where he should be downgraded that significantly. Just my opinion, and I am a niner fan so I'm biased :D
Plus the acquisition of Anquan Boldin cannot be underestimated. He is a solid possession receiver.
Both good points; thanks. In an auction keeper league, that extra $37 probably buys me another very good RB - likely enough to offset the difference between Rodgers and Kaepernick (assuming the latter can stay healthy).

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Re: Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

Post by Tom Kessenich » Tue May 28, 2013 12:54 pm

Boldin's still a decent No. 2 although he's clearly in decline. That's a huge problem since Kaepernick showed no ability or interest in utilizing Davis last season and Gore's reception totals have declined since Harbaugh became the head coach. As a result I think there are massive questions currently surrounding the 49ers' passing game. I Tweeted this out this morning but in our first three post-Crabtree injury drafts, Kaepernick has gone 87th overall, 72nd and 63rd.
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Re: Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

Post by Hoosier Daddy » Wed May 29, 2013 8:50 am

Tom Kessenich wrote:Boldin's still a decent No. 2 although he's clearly in decline. That's a huge problem since Kaepernick showed no ability or interest in utilizing Davis last season and Gore's reception totals have declined since Harbaugh became the head coach. As a result I think there are massive questions currently surrounding the 49ers' passing game. I Tweeted this out this morning but in our first three post-Crabtree injury drafts, Kaepernick has gone 87th overall, 72nd and 63rd.
Tom did you happen to see what Vernon Davis put up in the playoffs? Him and Kaepernick are clicking now it just took a little longer for them, for whatever reason - which from what I read on niner news sites related to Vernon's ability to digest the offense, which he has now.

The WR corps is no doubt an issue and will probably be addressed with a roster move if Patton and Jenkins show little in OTA's/minicamps. The other issue with the niners is cap space. We would need to restructure contract(s) to fit another salary so we may have to go to war with what we have. Should be interesting and will definitely be a test for Kaepernick's ability.

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Re: Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

Post by Tom Kessenich » Wed May 29, 2013 8:55 am

Davis was certainly much better in the final two games. My concern there is sample size. Kaepernick didn't make many starts but in the majority of them Davis was an afterthought. There's no doubt in my mind that has to change now, but will it? That's the question I have. There's no denying Davis' talent, but there was no denying it last season and Kaepernick still refused to throw him the ball most of the time. Harbaugh's biggest challenge with Kaepernick now may be getting him to change his mindset and make more use of Davis. If he does that will obviously help the 49ers but I still think their WR situation looks abysmal. I'm not sure there's a worse WR corps in the league. Certainly among legitimate Super Bowl contenders the 49ers look to be by far the worst.
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Re: Crabtree May Be Done For The Season

Post by JETS SB » Wed May 29, 2013 9:05 am

Tom Kessenich wrote: I'm not sure there's a worse WR corps in the league.
The Jets might be competing with that distinction.

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