Draft position advantage w/ twist

Gordon Gekko
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Draft position advantage w/ twist

Post by Gordon Gekko » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:48 am

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
you can be competitive drafting from ANYWHERE in the draft. NO ONE IS DISPUTING THAT

Thanks for trying
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Draft position advantage w/ twist

Post by dgamblnman » Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:06 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:

Gordon, this has absolutely nothing to do with assigning draft slots. It has to do with how the draft is conducted. this idea was thrown out to reduce the benefit that the early drafters get. blind bidding addresses this issue and solves all the problems, unless your name is Phil....SOMEONE WHO STILL DOESN'T GET IT!!!! i thought at first you were having some fun with me and joking around about the things you post. BUT, i now think something much different. i'll leave it at that.
[/QUOTE]Gordon, you keep saying that there is a draft advantage. The original post pertains to draft sequence, not position. BB will not fix where you perceive is a problem. If you think there is an unfair advanctage in position, it would still exist in your proposal. But I would see why you would be against this idea, you would have nothing to complain about and your life would be empty

The sequence would eliminate the percieved draft advantage problem as you see it. I would really love the lower draft picks then.


So on this topic, I would have to do some research to see it would work, but it might be worth looking into.

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Draft position advantage w/ twist

Post by BillyWaz » Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:49 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by BillyWaz:
you can be competitive drafting from ANYWHERE in the draft. NO ONE IS DISPUTING THAT

Thanks for trying
[/QUOTE]Gekko, no one is TRYING to "one up" you, you friggin egomaniac! Just posting my opinion on things! Did I miss the memo that only Gekko is allowed to voice his opinions on these boards? :rolleyes:

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Draft position advantage w/ twist

Post by Gordon Gekko » Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:36 am

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
Yes, the 1st pick is an advantage (not as big as Gecko makes it out to be, as only ONE team going into this week had Holmes on their roster and ZERO had Tomlinson), but if you are good you should be able to overcome it.
"overcome it"? here's my big ego for you: i'd like a fair shake FOR ALL OWNERS right from the start. big ego, huh? thanks.
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Post by dgamblnman » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:27 am

Gordon, here is the problem, many people think everyone has a fair shake already...... You're one of the few that thinks this system is completely flawed and needs to be revamped.

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Post by Gordon Gekko » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:37 am

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
Gordon, here is the problem, many people think everyone has a fair shake already...... You're one of the few that thinks this system is completely flawed and needs to be revamped. If you deem the 'system' as random selection of draft slots, then yes, it is flawed. I don't believe I'm in the minority, rather the majority. There could be some disagreement as to how much of an impact it has. That's okay. We all can't agree on everything.
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Post by Gordon Gekko » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:39 am

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
The sequence would eliminate the percieved draft advantage problem as you see it. I would really love the lower draft picks then.

So on this topic, I would have to do some research to see it would work, but it might be worth looking into.Please do the research and get back to us. Can you have it done by let's say...this coming Tuesday? Thanks.
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Post by renman » Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:11 pm

gordon,

i have a question... instead of a complex bidding system for draft slots (i know to YOU it is simple, but to a new fantasy player it might be complex) why not have everyone just write down the draft spot they ideally want just prior to the draft... all those who picked a spot that no one else did get that spot. those who picked the same spot then flip coins or use some other remedial manner to decide who picks 3rd or 4th and just go about it that way?

most everyone will get to draft at or very near the position they ideally have a strategy for for... it would be a simple process... we all know that once the draft starts no one knows what will happen. but this "perceived" control over where you draft might appeal to some and put others at ease...

what is the draw back?.. your thoughts?

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Post by Gordon Gekko » Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:37 am

Originally posted by renman:
gordon,

i have a question... what is the draw back?.. your thoughts? i'll respond later today. where are you located? i make trips to NEPA about once a month. thanks.
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Post by Gordon Gekko » Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:05 pm

Originally posted by renman:
gordon,

i have a question... instead of a complex bidding system for draft slots (i know to YOU it is simple, but to a new fantasy player it might be complex) why not have everyone just write down the draft spot they ideally want just prior to the draft... all those who picked a spot that no one else did get that spot. those who picked the same spot then flip coins or use some other remedial manner to decide who picks 3rd or 4th and just go about it that way?

most everyone will get to draft at or very near the position they ideally have a strategy for for... it would be a simple process... we all know that once the draft starts no one knows what will happen. but this "perceived" control over where you draft might appeal to some and put others at ease...

what is the draw back?.. your thoughts? i don't think it will work because you are allowing some owners to get their "most prized" draft slot (without having to give up something), and some owners will potentially get their worst spot. seems unfair to me.

here's a question for you. please answer. thanks.
if an owner is expected to know how the FA blind bidding process works, do you think the same owners would be able to figure out how to bid on draft slots?
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