Time To Talk Football With The NFFC Trendsetters League

[Tom Kessenich]

Originally posted by hammer:
quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:
As far as the QBs, even taking into consideration that they go earlier, I don't think Flacco has proven he's worthy of going that high. He's very talented but he closed out the season poorly last season, finished with five sub-200 yard passing games and only threw more than one TD in a game once. At that point of the draft I want a sure-fire QB1 and I don't consider Flacco to be one. TRENDSETTERS is like marriage... you have to overpay to get what you want [/QUOTE]Nice. I've been a big believer in Flacco the last two seasons and he's been a disappointment. Now that I'm a bit down on him I'm sure he'll be the QB I've always thought he could be.

[Coltsfan]

The QB's that went right after Flacco were Matt Ryan, Stafford, Bradford, and Cutler. Ryan has little risk but not a huge amount of upside. Stafford has huge upside but substantial risk. I would put Flacco in line with these other guys. The one good thing Flacco has over Ryan is a RB who will catch 60-70 balls. Ryan has to earn of all his yardage the traditional way. But Ryan did put up 20 points more than Flacco last year so he might have been the better choice there.

Matt - funny stuff!!!


Wayne

[Tom Kessenich]

I'd take Ryan, Cutler and Eli all before Flacco. I'd give strong consideration to Bradford but I think he comes with risk despite his considerable talent. Until Stafford proves he can stay healthy he won't be on any of my rosters next season unless the value is ridiculous.

[Coltsfan]

Elli definitely before Flacco and that's not even close. Ryan yes, Cutler is very close, and Bradford I would pass on to take Flacco. I have Stafford well ahead of Flacco and Ryan. (It's funny how we look at things completely different Tom.)


Wayne

[Tom Kessenich]

Originally posted by Coltsfan:
(It's funny how we look at things completely different Tom.)


Wayne Where would the fun be if we all saw things the same way?

I agree about Flacco over Bradford but I would not be surprised if Bradford outperformed him. If the Rams get him a legit go-to WR, Bradford could be a stud.

ETA - as far as Stafford I love his talent and his situation but he's the definition of brittle. I couldn't take him over more durable QBs even if they carry a lower ceiling.

[ April 11, 2011, 04:18 PM: Message edited by: Tom Kessenich ]

[Greg Ambrosius]

Four QBs went in Round 6 in the Trendsetters League. Here's a look at Round 6, with the first six rounds located on the second post of Page 1 in this thread:

Round Six
71. Santonio Holmes
72. Jordy Nelson
73. Santana Moss
74. Zach Miller
75. Benjarvus Green Ellis
76. Matt Ryan
77. Matthew Stafford
78. Jimmy Graham
79. Robert Meachem
80. James Starks
81. Randy Moss
82. Sam Bradford
83. Cedric Benson
84. Jay Cutler

Thoughts?

[Coltsfan]

I was surprised to see Jordy Nelson go that high. There is no right or wrong but he does still have Driver in front of him (I assume anyways) and Findley coming back. I can't see James Jones being a factor next year.

I was also surprised Moss went here. I have him about 5-6 rounds after this and I would probably have to make someone else type his name if I was to take him even then.

I thought Zach Miller and Jimmy Graham were good values. Santonio Holmes was a steal in my opinion this late.


Wayne

[Greg Ambrosius]

With the NFL Draft set for tonight, it's time to revisit our NFFC Trendsetters league and start thinking about our own upcoming drafts. Here's two more rounds from the NFFC Trendsetters League. Remember, the first eight rounds can be found on Page 1, second post:

Round Seven:
85. Marcedes Lewis
86. Lance Moore
87. Mario Manningham
88. Steve Smith
89. Kellen Winslow
90. Chris Ivory
91. Johnny Knox
92. Joseph Addai
93. Danny Amendola
94. Beanie Wells
95. Rookie 3
96. Michael Crabtree
97. Michael Bush
98. Chris Cooley

Round Eight:
99. Mark Sanchez
100. Mike Thomas
101. Tony Gonzalez
102. Mike Tolbert
103. Tim Tebow
104. Rob Gronkowski
105. Ryan Torain
106. Fred Jackson
107. Matt Cassell
108. Ryan Grant
109. Pierre Thomas
110. Brandon Pettigrew
111. Marshawn Lynch
112. Ladainian Tomlinson

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here, I'll bring the first eight rounds to you here. I'll add a few more rounds of picks shortly:

NFFC Trendsetters League
First Round:
1. Adrian Foster
2. Adrian Peterson
3. LeSean McCoy
4. Andre Johnson
5. Chris Johnson
6. Jamal Charles
7. Ray Rice
8. Roddy White
9. Calvin Johnson
10. Reggie Wayne
11. Greg Jennings
12. Michael Vick
13. Hakeem Nicks
14. Rashard Mendenhall

Second Round
15. Miles Austin
16. Frank Gore
17. Larry Fitzgerald
18. Mike Wallace
19. Dwayne Bowe
20. Austin Collie
21. Aaron Rodgers
22. Darren McFadden
23. Maurice Jones-Drew
24. DeSean Jackson
25. Marques Colston
26. Matt Forte
27. Drew Brees
28. Jeremy Maclin

Third Round (Using Third Round Reversal: 14-1 again):
29. Peyton Hillis
30. Tom Brady
31. Ahmad Bradshaw
32. Peyton Manning
33. Phillip Rivers
34. Antonio Gates
35. Michael Turner
36. Dallas Clark
37. Dez Bryant
38. Vincent Jackson
39. Mike Williams
40. Steven Jackson
41. Wes Welker
42. Jonathan Stewart

Fourth Round:
43. Kenny Britt
44. Jermichael Finley
45. Jason Witten
46. Tony Romo
47. Vernon Davis
48. Brandon Marshall
49. Steve Johnson
50. Ryan Matthews
51. Jahvid Best
52. Rookie 1
53. DeAngelo Williams
54. Eli Manning
55. Knowshon Moreno
56. Brandon Lloyd

Round Five:
57. Percy Harvin
58. Matt Schaub
59. Steven Smith
60. Shonn Greene
61. Anquan Boldin
62. Felix Jones
63. Sidney Rice
64. Pierre Garcon
65. LeGarrett Blount
66. Ben Roethlisberger
67. Rookie 2
68. Josh Freeman
69. Owen Daniels
70. Joe Flacco

Round Six
71. Santonio Holmes
72. Jordy Nelson
73. Santana Moss
74. Zach Miller
75. Benjarvus Green Ellis
76. Matt Ryan
77. Matthew Stafford
78. Jimmy Graham
79. Robert Meachem
80. James Starks
81. Randy Moss
82. Sam Bradford
83. Cedric Benson
84. Jay Cutler

Round Seven:
85. Marcedes Lewis
86. Lance Moore
87. Mario Manningham
88. Steve Smith
89. Kellen Winslow
90. Chris Ivory
91. Johnny Knox
92. Joseph Addai
93. Danny Amendola
94. Beanie Wells
95. Rookie 3
96. Michael Crabtree
97. Michael Bush
98. Chris Cooley

Round Eight:
99. Mark Sanchez
100. Mike Thomas
101. Tony Gonzalez
102. Mike Tolbert
103. Tim Tebow
104. Rob Gronkowski
105. Ryan Torain
106. Fred Jackson
107. Matt Cassell
108. Ryan Grant
109. Pierre Thomas
110. Brandon Pettigrew
111. Marshawn Lynch
112. Ladainian Tomlinson

Round Nine:
113. Chad Ochocinco
114. Davone Bess
115. Brandon Jacobs
116. Ronnie Brown
117. Mike Sims-Walker
118. Ryan Fitzpatrick
119. Mike Williams
120. Jordan Shipley
121. Donovan McNabb
122. Jerome Simpson
123. Rookie 4
124. Carson Palmer
125. Donald Brown
126. Danny Woodhead

Round Ten:
127. Mike Goodson
128. Jason Campbell
129. Terrell Owens
130. Nate Burleson
131. Danario Alexander
132. Aaron Hernandez
133. Emmanuel Sanders
134. Kevin Kolb
135. Braylon Edwards
136. Dustin Keller
137. Green Bay D
138. Rashad Jennings
139. Pittsburgh D
140. Malcolm Floyd

Thoughts?

[ May 02, 2011, 09:58 AM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

[kentucky]

We all know Snake drafts are a test of the ability to adapt as the draft goes. I was surprised Brady, Manning, and Rivers went in the 3rd round. I believe (somebody will correct me), Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Brady, and Schaub all went in the first two rounds last year in Chicago. I took Brady at 2.11 (4th QB taken), and Rivers and Romo went in the 3rd. If I was picking middle/late 2nd round, I'd have a hard time passing on any of the top 3/4 QB's. I guess i'd be zagging when everybody else was zigging. And BTW, Vick isn't one of my top 3/4. Call me foolish, I JUST don't trust him as my #1 QB.