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Post by King of Queens » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:58 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:
quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:
quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:
Did you know that I was also one of the few (maybe the only) person to draft Roethlisberger?
The same could be said for your Duce Staley selection in the first round. Just a terrible, terrible pick.
[/QUOTE]Not really. I've explained my rationale before.

Bad picks are those that are not thought out, based on poor analysis or done in the heat of the moment. Not those that didn't work in hindsight. Sorry you're so simple-minded not to understand that.
[/QUOTE]I like how you have chosen to attack me personally, rather than based on my track record. Shows a lot of maturity. Are you somehow related to Nag?

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Post by kjduke » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:51 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:
quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:
quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:
quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:
Did you know that I was also one of the few (maybe the only) person to draft Roethlisberger?
The same could be said for your Duce Staley selection in the first round. Just a terrible, terrible pick.
[/QUOTE]Not really. I've explained my rationale before.

Bad picks are those that are not thought out, based on poor analysis or done in the heat of the moment. Not those that didn't work in hindsight. Sorry you're so simple-minded not to understand that.
[/QUOTE]I like how you have chosen to attack me personally, rather than based on my track record. Shows a lot of maturity. Are you somehow related to Nag?
[/QUOTE]You may be right. Probably shouldn't respond in the am 'til after I get back from Starbucks. Sorry if it was too personal. Aside from the attack, hope you get my point.

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Post by King of Queens » Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:06 am

Point taken.

I thought San Diego was supposed to be the Land of the Laidback. You should hang with my buddy Mr. Ferrari at the tennis club.

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Post by kjduke » Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:18 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:
Point taken.

I thought San Diego was supposed to be the Land of the Laidback. You should hang with my buddy Mr. Ferrari at the tennis club. The natives here may be laid back but I'm from Chicago. As for Mr. Ferrari, if he needs a good money manager I'll meet him at the tennis club anytime.

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Post by Route Collectors » Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:47 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Route C:
Don't like the idea of taking a weekly avg. into a battle for the league title. It takes my hard earned 90 pt. lead and reduces it to 6.9

If I'm battling the same team I've battled for 13 weeks I want carry over. it's either take the weekly avg or don't take anything. no "carry over". sorry
[/QUOTE]I like your ideas and I'm trying to see your point on this but am having a hard time. Could you explain you rational behind this.

I understand in the overall we are crossing leagues which could be effected by strength of draft. However, in your own league you are competing with the same owners all year. If total pts. are to determine the league champ, then why handicap that after 13 weeks? Nothing else has changed - right? IMO this waters down what has been accomplished in the 1st 13 weeks. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm honestly trying to make sense of this portion of the proposal.
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Post by Gordon Gekko » Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:23 am

Originally posted by Route C:
I like your ideas and I'm trying to see your point on this but am having a hard time. Could you explain you rational behind this.

I understand in the overall we are crossing leagues which could be effected by strength of draft. However, in your own league you are competing with the same owners all year. If total pts. are to determine the league champ, then why handicap that after 13 weeks? Nothing else has changed - right? IMO this waters down what has been accomplished in the 1st 13 weeks. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm honestly trying to make sense of this portion of the proposal. 1. currently, the team with the most league points (if not best record team), doesn't even get a chance for the league championship. my proposal gives them a chance.

2. some owners think best record is a better indicator of the best team. other owners think the team with the most points is the best. my proposal gives the most points owner a small head start. you can't drift to far to the left without disenfranchising the H2H owners. giving teams a 90 or 190pt lead in a three game playoff will do that. sorry, my opinion.
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Post by Route Collectors » Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:27 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Route C:
I like your ideas and I'm trying to see your point on this but am having a hard time. Could you explain you rational behind this.

I understand in the overall we are crossing leagues which could be effected by strength of draft. However, in your own league you are competing with the same owners all year. If total pts. are to determine the league champ, then why handicap that after 13 weeks? Nothing else has changed - right? IMO this waters down what has been accomplished in the 1st 13 weeks. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm honestly trying to make sense of this portion of the proposal. 1. currently, the team with the most league points (if not best record team), doesn't even get a chance for the league championship. my proposal gives them a chance.

2. some owners think best record is a better indicator of the best team. other owners think the team with the most points is the best. my proposal gives the most points owner a small head start. you can't drift to far to the left without disenfranchising the H2H owners. giving teams a 90 or 190pt lead in a three game playoff will do that. sorry, my opinion.
[/QUOTE]I understand what you're saying - I'll agree to disagree on this one.

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Post by Gordon Gekko » Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:31 am

Originally posted by Route C:
I understand what you're saying - I'll agree to disagree on this one. i believe the other high stakes event has a one-week league playoff between the best record and the most points team. NO HANDICAP IS GIVEN. just throwing it out there.
Is my "weekend warrior" prep better than your prep?

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Post by ultimatefs » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:06 pm

GG, As you probably know by now, I'm more in what happens in real life camp. But I'm 50/50 on pts. I like your idea, but I think it needs to go further.

1) Best H2H makes overall.
2) Next highest points makes overall.
3) Top 10% scoring make overall.

For League,
#1 above gets a bye.
#2 above gets a bye.

The next 4 best teams by points are seeded 3-6 and play Week 14. Winners play 1-2 Week 15. Winners play for championship Week 16.

This would help eliminate teams not trying a little bit more than currently.

More importantly, lasting success comes from great playoff races. LV2 has 4 teams in first at 8-4. More playoff teams means more participation, which means more owners, which means more prizes down the road. I know you can relate to that buiness model :).

It also means that guys that drafted real good teams that got hit by early injuries have a chance that they deserve IMO.

TOW prize works. I had 32.5% of TOW winners last week with 5-6 record or worse. Another 15% were 6-5. I doubt Greg will ever use it due to lawyer stuff.
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Post by kjduke » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:19 pm

Originally posted by UFS:
GG, As you probably know by now, I'm more in what happens in real life camp. But I'm 50/50 on pts. I like your idea, but I think it needs to go further.

1) Best H2H makes overall.
2) Next highest points makes overall.
3) Top 10% scoring make overall.

For League,
#1 above gets a bye.
#2 above gets a bye.

The next 4 best teams by points are seeded 3-6 and play Week 14. Winners play 1-2 Week 15. Winners play for championship Week 16.

This would help eliminate teams not trying a little bit more than currently.

More importantly, lasting success comes from great playoff races. LV2 has 4 teams in first at 8-4. More playoff teams means more participation, which means more owners, which means more prizes down the road. I know you can relate to that buiness model :).

It also means that guys that drafted real good teams that got hit by early injuries have a chance that they deserve IMO.
Your point on involvement sounds on the money. A lge playoff along these lines would be a good idea, far more engaging than the current set-up.

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