NFFC Early Season Draft Results

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Re: NFFC Early Season Draft Results

Post by David U Kennedy » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:21 am

I can justify all but drafting Ray Rice ahead of Foster.

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Re: NFFC Early Season Draft Results

Post by boutrous11 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:07 am

this team have a shot guys? (from the 5 spot)

Wilson, Tanehill, Henne, Gabbert, M. Moore

Foster, D. Wilson, M. Ball, Ben Tate, B. Pierce, M. Reece, M. James, B. Bolden, Draughn

A. Johnson, Tor. Smith, Shorts, Lafell, Little, Jacoby Jones, Hixon, Toon, Stills, T. Streeter, T. Underwood

Pitta, Cook, Z. Miller, Luke Wilson, Jordan Reed

3 starting kickers

Green Bay, Washington

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Re: NFFC Early Season Draft Results

Post by Tom Kessenich » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:13 am

Foster at 7 is one helluva nice gift in Round 1.
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Re: NFFC Early Season Draft Results

Post by David U Kennedy » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:48 am

boutrous11 wrote:this team have a shot guys? (from the 5 spot)

Wilson, Tanehill, Henne, Gabbert, M. Moore

Foster, D. Wilson, M. Ball, Ben Tate, B. Pierce, M. Reece, M. James, B. Bolden, Draughn

A. Johnson, Tor. Smith, Shorts, Lafell, Little, Jacoby Jones, Hixon, Toon, Stills, T. Streeter, T. Underwood

Pitta, Cook, Z. Miller, Luke Wilson, Jordan Reed

3 starting kickers

Green Bay, Washington

Very nice solid team. Love your RBs. Esp. the top 3 guys. Solid top 4 WR but I don't see much after that. Good at TE. I don't believe your QB s are a weakness but def not a strength. Seattle is a run first team and have maybe the best defense in the league so they wont have a lot of shootouts. Tannehil I believe is way over-rated.

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Re: NFFC Early Season Draft Results

Post by boutrous11 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:00 am

David U Kennedy wrote:
boutrous11 wrote:this team have a shot guys? (from the 5 spot)

Wilson, Tanehill, Henne, Gabbert, M. Moore

Foster, D. Wilson, M. Ball, Ben Tate, B. Pierce, M. Reece, M. James, B. Bolden, Draughn

A. Johnson, Tor. Smith, Shorts, Lafell, Little, Jacoby Jones, Hixon, Toon, Stills, T. Streeter, T. Underwood

Pitta, Cook, Z. Miller, Luke Wilson, Jordan Reed

3 starting kickers

Green Bay, Washington

Very nice solid team. Love your RBs. Esp. the top 3 guys. Solid top 4 WR but I don't see much after that. Good at TE. I don't believe your QB s are a weakness but def not a strength. Seattle is a run first team and have maybe the best defense in the league so they wont have a lot of shootouts. Tannehil I believe is way over-rated.
I'd be interested to see the results of someone like Aaron Rodgers and a crappy backup vs. Wilson, Tanehill, and the Jax qbs over a season in the DC scoring.... I'm sure Coltsfan has a spreadsheet on this topic...

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Re: NFFC Early Season Draft Results

Post by afv » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:55 am

boutrous11 wrote:this team have a shot guys? (from the 5 spot)

Wilson, Tanehill, Henne, Gabbert, M. Moore

Foster, D. Wilson, M. Ball, Ben Tate, B. Pierce, M. Reece, M. James, B. Bolden, Draughn

A. Johnson, Tor. Smith, Shorts, Lafell, Little, Jacoby Jones, Hixon, Toon, Stills, T. Streeter, T. Underwood

Pitta, Cook, Z. Miller, Luke Wilson, Jordan Reed

3 starting kickers

Green Bay, Washington

Not a fan. I don't mind the QB mix and like the TEs but the WR collection is too weak even in a DC

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Re: NFFC Early Season Draft Results

Post by Jim Wiseheart » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:58 am

For what it's worth, I have some data using last year's stats:

Wilson/Tannehill/Gabbert/Henne would have scored 462 points (90 point increase over Wilson alone)

Rodgers/Tannehill - 497 points (20 point increase over Rodgers alone)
Rodgers/Gabbert/Henne - 515 points (38 point increase)
Rodgers/Ponder - 536 points (58 point increase)

Brees/Tannehill - 530 points (27 point increase over Brees alone)
Brees/Gabbert/Henne - 524 points (21 point increase)
Brees Ponder - 536 points (33 point increase)

So I guess the big question is how much will Wilson/Tannehill improve over last year vs. Rodgers or Brees regress.

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Re: NFFC Early Season Draft Results

Post by afv » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:13 pm

Jim Wiseheart wrote:For what it's worth, I have some data using last year's stats:

Wilson/Tannehill/Gabbert/Henne would have scored 462 points (90 point increase over Wilson alone)

Rodgers/Tannehill - 497 points (20 point increase over Rodgers alone)
Rodgers/Gabbert/Henne - 515 points (38 point increase)
Rodgers/Ponder - 536 points (58 point increase)

Brees/Tannehill - 530 points (27 point increase over Brees alone)
Brees/Gabbert/Henne - 524 points (21 point increase)
Brees Ponder - 536 points (33 point increase)

So I guess the big question is how much will Wilson/Tannehill improve over last year vs. Rodgers or Brees regress.

also how lucky was that combo when Rodgers/Brees had off weeks....did Tannehill/Gabbert produce above average with favorable matchups during byes/Brees/Rodgers off weeks?

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Re: NFFC Early Season Draft Results

Post by boutrous11 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:55 pm

good data. we'd also have to take into account the players drafted in the rounds where you pass on the others, most notably, who you get in the 2nd when you pass on Brees/Rodgers vs. who the Rodgers teams get in the 6th...

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Re: NFFC Early Season Draft Results

Post by afv » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:56 pm

Jim Wiseheart wrote:For what it's worth, I have some data using last year's stats:

Wilson/Tannehill/Gabbert/Henne would have scored 462 points (90 point increase over Wilson alone)

Rodgers/Tannehill - 497 points (20 point increase over Rodgers alone)
Rodgers/Gabbert/Henne - 515 points (38 point increase)
Rodgers/Ponder - 536 points (58 point increase)

Brees/Tannehill - 530 points (27 point increase over Brees alone)
Brees/Gabbert/Henne - 524 points (21 point increase)
Brees Ponder - 536 points (33 point increase)

So I guess the big question is how much will Wilson/Tannehill improve over last year vs. Rodgers or Brees regress.

Interesting

Ideally, given the optimal scoring structure, you want to recreate the Brees/Rodgers early round QB output with later round pairings in a DC. The goal with waiting on QBs in a DC, I assume is to develop portfolio where the sum (weekly points) is considerably greater than the parts. With luck of course...e.g. QB A has a down week while QB B over-earns.

Points week
Brees alone 502.8 29.6
Rodgers alone 477.6 28.1
Brees/Tann 529.8 31.2
Rodgers/Tann 497.2 29.2

Freeman alone 362.2 21.3 :oops:
Cutler alone 270.9 15.9 :oops:
Freeman/Cutler/Tann 446.8 26.3 8-)


is waiting 8-10 rds on qb worthwhile, assuming your early rds RBs/WRs produce? Too risky?

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