James,
A-Last year didn't you pick #1 or #2?
B-What happened this year?
c-Did you become a bad fantasy owner?
d-How does your Magazine Sat team starting with Alexander look?
E-How can one team have 350 more points than the other?
On Brees spreading the ball around, you took Tomlinson last year(I thought you had him), pre Gates and pre Brees's breakout year. Now you think he won't be a top 4 pick. Come on!!
I can't say where anyone is playing next year, but based on this year's stats those player would be the top 4 picks.
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Originally posted by GOD Loves You:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
[qb] So I ask those opposed to the Derby, Can you please tell me why you do not like it??
Because there is a better way!!! So that is your response? "Because there is a better way!!"
What way is that? If you are a parent, I hope you don't take the same approach with your kids....
But why dad? "Because I said so!"
Well, God...I'll re-word it for you. I don't like the KD method because I think BBDS is a better system.
I can't remember once reading on the message board
a cry for the KD system. Even this year, the push was for the BBDS. Only late in the game did someone throw the KD idea out there. It's a only a slight improvement. Greg is only throw us a bone. He's not ready for the big move.
I doesn't address the desire for a lot onwers to be able to get to the front of the draft. With that move, they will be price to pay.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
[qb] So I ask those opposed to the Derby, Can you please tell me why you do not like it??
Because there is a better way!!! So that is your response? "Because there is a better way!!"
What way is that? If you are a parent, I hope you don't take the same approach with your kids....
But why dad? "Because I said so!"
Well, God...I'll re-word it for you. I don't like the KD method because I think BBDS is a better system.
I can't remember once reading on the message board
a cry for the KD system. Even this year, the push was for the BBDS. Only late in the game did someone throw the KD idea out there. It's a only a slight improvement. Greg is only throw us a bone. He's not ready for the big move.
I doesn't address the desire for a lot onwers to be able to get to the front of the draft. With that move, they will be price to pay.
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Originally posted by Route C:
I prefer knowing my draft slot before the draft. I'm all for fun and excitement, but I'd rather have a plan going in rather than winging it from the start. There's a big difference in drafting from the 3 slot vs. the 12 slot.
Have your fun in those $100 leagues if you want, but no way am I winging it with a $1250 investment. This is the one idea that would keep me from coming back next year. Not the KD style but doing it live is what I'm talking about. This is Supposed to be the National Fantasy Football CHAMPIONSHIP - to reward the best fantasy football player - not the best rehearsed drafter from a given position. If the KD method is done live you will reward the BEST drafters and those who can adjust to the different positions because they know how to draft.
[ November 24, 2005, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: Captain Hook ]
I prefer knowing my draft slot before the draft. I'm all for fun and excitement, but I'd rather have a plan going in rather than winging it from the start. There's a big difference in drafting from the 3 slot vs. the 12 slot.
Have your fun in those $100 leagues if you want, but no way am I winging it with a $1250 investment. This is the one idea that would keep me from coming back next year. Not the KD style but doing it live is what I'm talking about. This is Supposed to be the National Fantasy Football CHAMPIONSHIP - to reward the best fantasy football player - not the best rehearsed drafter from a given position. If the KD method is done live you will reward the BEST drafters and those who can adjust to the different positions because they know how to draft.
[ November 24, 2005, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: Captain Hook ]
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Originally posted by Captain Hook:
This is Supposed to be the National Fantasy Football CHAMPIONSHIP - to reward the best fantasy football player - not the best rehearsed drafter from a given position. If the KD method is done live you will reward the BEST drafters and those who can adjust to the different positions because they know how to draft. So are you saying that the hundreds of current owners in the NFFC and WCOFF who like getting their draft slots early are not really the "best" drafters? You called them the "best rehearsed drafters". Interesting.
This is Supposed to be the National Fantasy Football CHAMPIONSHIP - to reward the best fantasy football player - not the best rehearsed drafter from a given position. If the KD method is done live you will reward the BEST drafters and those who can adjust to the different positions because they know how to draft. So are you saying that the hundreds of current owners in the NFFC and WCOFF who like getting their draft slots early are not really the "best" drafters? You called them the "best rehearsed drafters". Interesting.
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Originally posted by Captain Hook:
quote:Originally posted by Route C:
I prefer knowing my draft slot before the draft. I'm all for fun and excitement, but I'd rather have a plan going in rather than winging it from the start. There's a big difference in drafting from the 3 slot vs. the 12 slot.
Have your fun in those $100 leagues if you want, but no way am I winging it with a $1250 investment. This is the one idea that would keep me from coming back next year. Not the KD style but doing it live is what I'm talking about. This is Supposed to be the National Fantasy Football CHAMPIONSHIP - to reward the best fantasy football player - not the best rehearsed drafter from a given position. If the KD method is done live you will reward the BEST drafters and those who can adjust to the different positions because they know how to draft. [/QUOTE]I agree 100%. If you want to test to see who is the best, walk in, grab a table number, then grab a draft number, and plant your butt down.
Bet no one would be late...
quote:Originally posted by Route C:
I prefer knowing my draft slot before the draft. I'm all for fun and excitement, but I'd rather have a plan going in rather than winging it from the start. There's a big difference in drafting from the 3 slot vs. the 12 slot.
Have your fun in those $100 leagues if you want, but no way am I winging it with a $1250 investment. This is the one idea that would keep me from coming back next year. Not the KD style but doing it live is what I'm talking about. This is Supposed to be the National Fantasy Football CHAMPIONSHIP - to reward the best fantasy football player - not the best rehearsed drafter from a given position. If the KD method is done live you will reward the BEST drafters and those who can adjust to the different positions because they know how to draft. [/QUOTE]I agree 100%. If you want to test to see who is the best, walk in, grab a table number, then grab a draft number, and plant your butt down.
Bet no one would be late...
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I'm cool with the KD method. I wold do it right there and then too. Right at the draft. One thing I've noticed at the baeball and football events is that there are some owners who can't wait to finish...When I invest $650 - $1250, I se no reason to rush. Draft day to me is more important to me than Superbowl Sunday now. (Unless the Giants go all the way). So 10-20 minutes extra, before the draft, to determine the KD order wouldn't bother me a bit.
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Originally posted by Captain Hook:
quote:Originally posted by Route C:
I prefer knowing my draft slot before the draft. I'm all for fun and excitement, but I'd rather have a plan going in rather than winging it from the start. There's a big difference in drafting from the 3 slot vs. the 12 slot.
Have your fun in those $100 leagues if you want, but no way am I winging it with a $1250 investment. This is the one idea that would keep me from coming back next year. Not the KD style but doing it live is what I'm talking about. This is Supposed to be the National Fantasy Football CHAMPIONSHIP - to reward the best fantasy football player - not the best rehearsed drafter from a given position. If the KD method is done live you will reward the BEST drafters and those who can adjust to the different positions because they know how to draft. [/QUOTE]Yeah it's also supposed to be America where a person is allowed an opinion without having to justify it to you.
FYI your statement is flawed. Drafting will be rehersed no matter what. Poll the current owners and find out how many of them have "rehersed" from many draft slots previous to knowing theirs.
You guys and your "best FF player" stuff crack me up. For all you know the "best FF player" may never play in a high stakes event. How do you determine the "best" anyway?
Gekko won it all last year and as far as I've seen, no ones tabbed him "the best".
What about previous WCOFF winners - do they not qualify for "the best" award either? After all - didn't all of these guys win in a system that allowed "rehersed" drafting! :rolleyes:
quote:Originally posted by Route C:
I prefer knowing my draft slot before the draft. I'm all for fun and excitement, but I'd rather have a plan going in rather than winging it from the start. There's a big difference in drafting from the 3 slot vs. the 12 slot.
Have your fun in those $100 leagues if you want, but no way am I winging it with a $1250 investment. This is the one idea that would keep me from coming back next year. Not the KD style but doing it live is what I'm talking about. This is Supposed to be the National Fantasy Football CHAMPIONSHIP - to reward the best fantasy football player - not the best rehearsed drafter from a given position. If the KD method is done live you will reward the BEST drafters and those who can adjust to the different positions because they know how to draft. [/QUOTE]Yeah it's also supposed to be America where a person is allowed an opinion without having to justify it to you.
FYI your statement is flawed. Drafting will be rehersed no matter what. Poll the current owners and find out how many of them have "rehersed" from many draft slots previous to knowing theirs.
You guys and your "best FF player" stuff crack me up. For all you know the "best FF player" may never play in a high stakes event. How do you determine the "best" anyway?
Gekko won it all last year and as far as I've seen, no ones tabbed him "the best".
What about previous WCOFF winners - do they not qualify for "the best" award either? After all - didn't all of these guys win in a system that allowed "rehersed" drafting! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Route C:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Captain Hook:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Route C:
[qb] How do you determine the "best" anyway?
Gekko won it all last year and as far as I've seen, no ones tabbed him "the best".
What about previous WCOFF winners - do they not qualify for "the best" award either? After all - didn't all of these guys win in a system that allowed "rehersed" drafting! :rolleyes: I personally would like the KDM ON draft day, but even having it before would work for me.
Good points though RC. Gekko won it all last year, Zarzycki was top 3 in WCOFF in 2003 & 2004 (and wrote a book called "Drafting to Win- not a bad read by the way!), and William Del Pilar is in MANY fantasy expert drafts prior to the season and works for KFFL.
Currently, all 3 are in the bottom half of the NFFC in total points.
RC is correct. The "best" fantasy player WILL vary from year to year, and you need A LOT of luck to win ANY contest/league such as this.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Captain Hook:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Route C:
[qb] How do you determine the "best" anyway?
Gekko won it all last year and as far as I've seen, no ones tabbed him "the best".
What about previous WCOFF winners - do they not qualify for "the best" award either? After all - didn't all of these guys win in a system that allowed "rehersed" drafting! :rolleyes: I personally would like the KDM ON draft day, but even having it before would work for me.
Good points though RC. Gekko won it all last year, Zarzycki was top 3 in WCOFF in 2003 & 2004 (and wrote a book called "Drafting to Win- not a bad read by the way!), and William Del Pilar is in MANY fantasy expert drafts prior to the season and works for KFFL.
Currently, all 3 are in the bottom half of the NFFC in total points.
RC is correct. The "best" fantasy player WILL vary from year to year, and you need A LOT of luck to win ANY contest/league such as this.
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Of course players will still do mock drafts - the point is the best prepared should be able to draft from any spot. Someone who practices from the 4 hole for a month may only be able to draft from that spot if that is their only preparation. Yes the really good players can alter their drafting to any situation and that IMO is what we want.
"Best" being a winner is fleet - likely they will never be able to repeat. So they may be the NFFC or WCOFF champion this year or from some previous year, but that does not make them "the best", only one of the best. If someone wins both or wins one of them twice then temporarily, we would have to call them the best - until someone knocks them off. Gekko having a bad team this year doesn't take away his win - just like his win didn't make him the best - just the current champion.
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"Best" being a winner is fleet - likely they will never be able to repeat. So they may be the NFFC or WCOFF champion this year or from some previous year, but that does not make them "the best", only one of the best. If someone wins both or wins one of them twice then temporarily, we would have to call them the best - until someone knocks them off. Gekko having a bad team this year doesn't take away his win - just like his win didn't make him the best - just the current champion.
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Originally posted by BillyWaz:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Route C:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Captain Hook:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Route C:
[qb] How do you determine the "best" anyway?
Good points though RC. Gekko won it all last year, Zarzycki was top 3 in WCOFF in 2003 & 2004 (and wrote a book called "Drafting to Win- not a bad read by the way!), and William Del Pilar is in MANY fantasy expert drafts prior to the season and works for KFFL.
Currently, all 3 are in the bottom half of the NFFC in total points.
RC is correct. The "best" fantasy player WILL vary from year to year, and you need A LOT of luck to win ANY contest/league such as this. That's quite funny that you mentioned those "experts" because I was just pondering their expertise earlier.
I was gonna pose the question to all the MB folks about how they felt in regards to beating those who make a living off of this fantasy stuff.
There's more in addition to Robert and William, I believe....I recognized a couple of names of some fantasy football writers in the mix as well..
And I noticed a Samuel Caplan too, not sure if this is the "expert" Caplan. (Yes I am aware of Adam from footballinjuries.com)
Maybe somebody can clarify this for me.
I know I have gotten off of the subject of this thread but I will pose this question...
If these people are experts and make a living off of this, don't you think they should NEVER be in the bottom half of the standings????
Regardless?
This is my first high stakes fantasy event.
Prior to this, in my 4 years of playing fantasy football, I have never finished lower than 4th in any of my leagues or even lower than 3rd in points.
And the same will hopefully hold true this year.
Even Mr. 3INTBOY /I don't have common sense when it comes to the rules has HIS OWN WEBSITE and he is only 134th in overall points, just above Billy.
So I wonder, could Billy be an expert too?
Or how about myself?
What exactly entails being an expert?
And yes 3INTBOY, I, and many others are amazed at your lack of understanding when it came to the flex position. But I guess that should be expected from a "boy"
In the Fantasy Guru Expert League that Tom K. participates in, last year was almost won by a non-expert (though he did win Mr. Fantasy Football the year before)
And my train of thought just disappeared so I will quit rambling, as I sometimes tend to do on here.
It's just very comical to me that people are getting paid for their fantasy advice and insight, yet they can't even compete with the likes of you and I, who might be the very same people inquiring about their knowledge.
Quite the paradixical conundrum, huh? (I think I used that correctly, any grammar teachers on here?)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Route C:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Captain Hook:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Route C:
[qb] How do you determine the "best" anyway?
Good points though RC. Gekko won it all last year, Zarzycki was top 3 in WCOFF in 2003 & 2004 (and wrote a book called "Drafting to Win- not a bad read by the way!), and William Del Pilar is in MANY fantasy expert drafts prior to the season and works for KFFL.
Currently, all 3 are in the bottom half of the NFFC in total points.
RC is correct. The "best" fantasy player WILL vary from year to year, and you need A LOT of luck to win ANY contest/league such as this. That's quite funny that you mentioned those "experts" because I was just pondering their expertise earlier.
I was gonna pose the question to all the MB folks about how they felt in regards to beating those who make a living off of this fantasy stuff.
There's more in addition to Robert and William, I believe....I recognized a couple of names of some fantasy football writers in the mix as well..
And I noticed a Samuel Caplan too, not sure if this is the "expert" Caplan. (Yes I am aware of Adam from footballinjuries.com)
Maybe somebody can clarify this for me.
I know I have gotten off of the subject of this thread but I will pose this question...
If these people are experts and make a living off of this, don't you think they should NEVER be in the bottom half of the standings????
Regardless?
This is my first high stakes fantasy event.
Prior to this, in my 4 years of playing fantasy football, I have never finished lower than 4th in any of my leagues or even lower than 3rd in points.
And the same will hopefully hold true this year.
Even Mr. 3INTBOY /I don't have common sense when it comes to the rules has HIS OWN WEBSITE and he is only 134th in overall points, just above Billy.
So I wonder, could Billy be an expert too?
Or how about myself?
What exactly entails being an expert?
And yes 3INTBOY, I, and many others are amazed at your lack of understanding when it came to the flex position. But I guess that should be expected from a "boy"
In the Fantasy Guru Expert League that Tom K. participates in, last year was almost won by a non-expert (though he did win Mr. Fantasy Football the year before)
And my train of thought just disappeared so I will quit rambling, as I sometimes tend to do on here.
It's just very comical to me that people are getting paid for their fantasy advice and insight, yet they can't even compete with the likes of you and I, who might be the very same people inquiring about their knowledge.
Quite the paradixical conundrum, huh? (I think I used that correctly, any grammar teachers on here?)
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