Don Draper wrote:chriseibl wrote:95% skill over the long term (say 10 years), in any given year it's more of a 50/50 split. if you're good at this you are more likely than not to make money over the long run. i'll leave the 5% luck to represent the big money jackpots where you're competing against 100s of others. (though those people take a combination of luck and skill to get themselves in that position).
In the 9 years the NFFC Classic has existed; please list the names of the owners who have finished:
A. In the Top 5 overall more than once?
B. In the Top 10 overall more than once?
if skill is 95% over the long-term, one would think the lists above would be populated with a good number of owners.
Well, now you've challenged me to find this out!!
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Let's look at the Classic through 9 years and find this out:
2004 NFFC Classic Championship Round Top 8:
1. Mark Srebro/Jason Emma
2. Barry Harcus
3. Glenn Schroter
4. Don Thompson
5. Eric Lundquist
6. Chris Cannataro
7. Mike Ward
8. Dave Cushard
2005 NFFC Classic Championship Round Top 8:
1. Josh Ferenc
2. Scott Stauffer
3. John Bayley
4. Ken Magner
5. Scott Gunaca
6. Kenrol Paynter
7. Kyle Pope
8. Joseph Treffiletti
2006 NFFC Classic Championship Round Top 10:
1. Teds Cracked Head NFFC Chicago League 1 Rob Benetti 646.3
2. .......FISHER ....... NFFC New York League 9 David Lichtman 621.12
Ryan Fisher
David Fisher
3. Incredible Hulking Us NFFC New York League 8 Michael Edelman 615.39
Lewandowski
4. TexasCrew NFFC Las Vegas League 6 Lewis Lightfoot 597.54
5. Fleetwood Macks NFFC New York League 6 James Mack 593.75
6. EdCouch New Potatoes NFFC New York League 3 Edward Killmer 579.85
7. Billsville Trojans NFFC Chicago League 2 Ronald Eltanal 578.71
8. Wonder Boy and Ball Dude NFFC Las Vegas League 1 Steve Pletkin 577.66
9. CANADIAN BEAVERS NFFC Las Vegas League 7 Jason Steeves 572.2
10. curbed enthusiasm NFFC Chicago League 1 Andy Langwald 554.25
2007 NFFC Classic Championship Round Top 10:
1. Go Gettas Ryan Welch 621.61
Jeremy Jurewicz
2. The Ambiguously Gay Duo Mike Newbert 607.3
3. Silver Knuckle Travis Loontjer 604.42
4. Generation Swine Brent Grooms 598.25
5. Armchair Champs Tom Spinoso 588.11
6. Pass Interference Michael Makula 582.51
7. CCs Desperados Shawn Childs 576.46
8. TOPDOGG Troy Young 575.34
9. TEXAS FLOOD Matthew Bayley 572.44
10. Nemesis Stan McLaren 570.35
Kenrol Paynter
2008 Classic Championship Round Top 10:
1. RECOVERY BOYS TOM YATES 619.03
2. nick jonas Scott Newman 616.09
3. Riverdog Todd Ullman 612.27
4. Mutillating Squirrels Dan Mitlof 610.89
5. Sweetness Jean-Paul Hanna 602.94
6. I'mbackandI'mbad Jeff Kratz 598.63
7. Team Canada TJ Mailloux 595.58
8. FROSTY Matthew Bayley 592.06
9. Blue Falcons Dominic Cristelli 591.47
10. Leroy's Aces Dave Gerczak 589.58
2009 NFFC Classic Championship Round Top 10:
1. 1 800 GO DEEP Steve Luzzi 645.04
2. TOPPDOG Troy Young 641.84
3. Kahuna Calvin Suer 636.77
4. DIESEL Mitko Koburov 629.8
5. BFDFANTASYfootball com Louis Tranquilli 628.18
6. Amanda Will Robertson 612.95
7. Master Chief William DelPilar 610.65
8. Fantasy Pimps Jason Esteybar 609.2
9. Cardboys Josh Blumenreich 606.6
10. E A T M L Edward Klein 602.67
2010 NFFC Classic Championship Round Top 10:
1. Tom Carbone
2. Ante Meich
3. Duane Merchant
4. Darren Fecich
5. Brian Owens
6. KJ Duke
7. Chad Schroeder
8. Bill Hare
2011 Classic Championship Round Top 10:
1. I'm ALL IN Michael Treffiletti 653.1
2. SD Super Chargers George Melbrod 625.83
3. Potato of Injustice Joseph Treffiletti 623.46
4. MIAMI CANES 4 Frank Heron 619
5. Team Welp Michael Welp 607.78
6. For Love Of The Game 3 Jared Danielsen 602.85
7. 5PtPalmExplodingHeartTech Tyson Siegele 602.8
8. Roughriders James Bradtke 599.79
9. RECOVERY BOYS TOM YATES 599.05
10. Eye of the Storm RICK FALVO 592.3
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like Matthew Bayley, Joseph Treffiletti and Tom Yates have finished in the Top 10 twice each since 2004. Not an easy task, for sure, Mark. There are a lot of new names each year in the Top 10 and even the best of the best have a tough time repeating each year. It's not like in baseball, where we do see many of the same names from year to year.
That being said, every year there is a "fantasy football is pure luck" thread and you probably are the author of half of them!!
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Not that it's a bad subject to bring up each year, just saying...
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