What Are Your Thoughts On Bidding For Draft Slots?

Route Collectors · Post by **Route Collectors** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:56 pm

Originally posted by Z-Men:
Why is it that people think bidding for slots is a complicated thing? As Gekko asks, "If it's so difficult then how do people get by during the season when bidding is done each week."

Personally, I love this bidding for slot idea and I do not think it would scare people away at all. It's the same process we go through each week only one additional bidding time frame is added before the draft starts. -z- Well said Robert!

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:06 pm

Originally posted by UFS:
quote:Originally posted by Ugly Yellow Tomatoes:
It's not like we need to see who's in the league in order to bid ... so this shouldn't delay anything other than three or four hours of number crunching by Greg and Tom (assuming the process is not automated). For this to work best, owners would have to input bid amounts before being assigned to leagues.

That way no uneccessary MB influence would get in the way. [/QUOTE]Yes on both counts. I don't see this moving up the signup deadline at all and I believe Tom and I could still announce all of the leagues and selections by that Monday afternoon before the draft at the latest. We'd be able to accomplish this.

Absolutely, blind bids would be locked before we announced the leagues. But again I'm just rambling about a "concept."

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:10 pm

Originally posted by Latham:
I agree that draft slot bidding is a good idea. You will have some years where there is a clear cut number one pick, or even a clear cut top three. Draft slot bidding will assure everyone a shot to pick where they want, it's in your hands to make it happen. If you have a bad draft position you can only blame yourself.

Randy One of the ideas with this, Randy, is if you get a "bad draft positon" because you didn't bid aggressively for draft slots, you know you can still win from anywhere on Draft Day and presumably you'd have the most FAAB money for in-season pickups. So it has the potential to help all owners. But again, it's still a crapshoot for each draft spot as you're not guaranteed anything unless you bid everything for the spot you want. In the random selection process, you're not guaranteed anything either.

Keep the thoughts coming. I like all of the input.

Latham · Post by **Latham** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:03 pm

The best part of draft slot bidding is that you have the oppurtunity to get the player you want, or save your FAAB money for later on. You have the choice to go after Tomlinson as opposed to random draft slots where the choice is taken away from the team picking down in the order. draft slot bidding will let teams plan whatever strategy they wish without being locked in to a draft spot. Take the random draft spots away and everyone starts on equal ground.

JerseyPaul · Post by **JerseyPaul** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:12 pm

What could be fairer than letting the "market" allocate a scarce "resource".

Nag' · Post by **Nag'** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:13 pm

Originally posted by Z-Men:
Why is it that people think bidding for slots is a complicated thing? As Gekko asks, "If it's so difficult then how do people get by during the season when bidding is done each week."Option A: No slot bidding = do nothing

Option B: Slot bidding = decide the order of importance between 12 draft positions, determine how important a certain draft position(s) in to you, determine what other owners may deem better/worse draft positions & which ones they may go after, determine how much to bid on each draft position without overpaying too much and making sure you have enough bidding bucks to make it through the season.

I might be crazy, but to me it looks like option B is more complicated that Option A.

Ted's Cracked Head · Post by **Ted's Cracked Head** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:13 pm

I think that at this level we "crave" the ability to "manage" or "control" as much of the experience as possible. That means that if we prefer to draft from one end of the scale or in the middle we may be able to accomplish this based on what we figure to be a "just" bid for said slots.

For those that feel they can win from any spot in the draft, they should embrace this concept because it is very likely that six or more teams from their league will enter the regular season FA blind bidding process at a disadvantage because they have coveted certain draft spots and bid accordingly.

I believe that this concept will empower the owners. It will give them a greater sense of control over their team and season. It will give them the impression that one of the elements of "luck" has been removed. Anytime you can remove some of the "luck" (or perception of such) in fantasy sports, I think you have improved the game and overall experience.

I would be in favor of this concept and do not think that it will scare folks away. I believe that it will receive a very warm reception and would likely result in a boon to the NFFC.

Robert Zarzycki · Post by **Robert Zarzycki** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:17 pm

Here's why I think mostly everyone should be in favor of bidding for slots. ...

If you are a person who thinks that draft slots ARE important then you should vote to bid on the slots for the obvious reason -- this way it's not an unfair situation where people get good slots based on luck of the draw.

If you are a person who thinks that draft slots ARE NOT that important and that any slot is fair and square then you should still vote to bid on slots. This way you can sit back, let others spend their free agent dollars on the slots, and you end up with whatever slots are left over preserving all your money.

Win-Win, no?

-z-

[ October 07, 2005, 12:19 AM: Message edited by: Z-Men ]

jsferenc · Post by **jsferenc** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:44 pm

Greg,

I think that bidding on draft slots is ok for smaller, low money leagues. I am in eight leagues and some of them have unusual rules, which os fine if the stakes are low. For "big money" leagues like the NFFC I think it's a bad idea. The NFFC is an awesome event and it is growing and will get more popular each year. One of the reasons I entered last year is because I was confident that I could trust that draft slots were assigned using a completely random process. I wouldn't be as interested in the NFFC if I had to sacrifice my FAAB funds to secure a high draft slot. I like knowing that this event starts out completely random with everybody on the same page. If bidding is allowed for draft slots and someone figures out a strategy that I missed, I would feel like I was at a disadvantage from the start. That's not cool for this type of dough, in my humble opinion.

With that said, I will be in the NFFC as long as it's round.

Josh

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:46 pm

Originally posted by Gantze Machers:
I like knowing that this event starts out completely random with everybody on the same page. for this kind of dough, i'd like a chance at getting the draft slot i want.

in your set-up, everyone is not on the same page (equal from the start). if there is a consensus #1 pick (LT), and LT does well, ONLY those owners will do well thanks to LT.

[ October 07, 2005, 06:33 AM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]