Just to keep my streak of posts that people disagree with going:
In a 12-team league you could easily play each team twice with designated doubleheader weeks.
14 or 12 team leagues.. which is better for NFFC going forward.
14 or 12 team leagues.. which is better for NFFC going forward.
Hello. My name is Lee Scoresby. I come from Texas, like flying hot-air balloons, being eaten by talking polar bears and fantasy football.
14 or 12 team leagues.. which is better for NFFC going forward.
And while I'm at it:
How about an early free agent period on Tuesday/Wednesday and a late one on Thursday/Friday?
I always hate it when I have an idea for a player that is novel on Tuesday but obvious by Friday.
How about an early free agent period on Tuesday/Wednesday and a late one on Thursday/Friday?
I always hate it when I have an idea for a player that is novel on Tuesday but obvious by Friday.
Hello. My name is Lee Scoresby. I come from Texas, like flying hot-air balloons, being eaten by talking polar bears and fantasy football.
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Route Collectors
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by UFS:
[QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
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I'm watching the proceedings of the NFFC mid-season league that has gone with 1 starting RB, 3 WRs and two Flex positions. I notice that one team continually goes with 1 RB and FIVE WRs and is leading the way.
Finally! Intelligence prevails. Shhhhhhhhhh.....
[QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
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I'm watching the proceedings of the NFFC mid-season league that has gone with 1 starting RB, 3 WRs and two Flex positions. I notice that one team continually goes with 1 RB and FIVE WRs and is leading the way.
Finally! Intelligence prevails. Shhhhhhhhhh.....
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Route Collectors
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Oops Highlighted the wrong quote.
Originally posted by UFS:
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Since most owners, sheep as GG calls them, would stick to 2-3 RB theory, drafting 1 stud RB, then taking 5 straight WR's, would easily lead to the best chance at winning. You'd get 5 stud WR's. The 4th-5th WR's would be better than most teams #2's as teams stuck with old draft models where they don't take a WR until round 4-6. [/QB][/QUOTE]Finally! Intelligence prevails. Shhhhh.......
Originally posted by UFS:
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Since most owners, sheep as GG calls them, would stick to 2-3 RB theory, drafting 1 stud RB, then taking 5 straight WR's, would easily lead to the best chance at winning. You'd get 5 stud WR's. The 4th-5th WR's would be better than most teams #2's as teams stuck with old draft models where they don't take a WR until round 4-6. [/QB][/QUOTE]Finally! Intelligence prevails.
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Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
Actually, you can have 14 teams and 2 RBs. That's 28 by my count. There are even 4 extra starters. I guess it comes down to making the right decisions at the right time. This contest is very fair, and it is proven there is NO draft advantage. It all has to do with who you draft.
Changing to 1 RB is a cop out, anyone who feels it is too hard, then don't join (Sorry Greg). All people do is complain and wnat to make this easier. People are looking for All Star teams and an easier for them to compete.
Anyone cans start a high entry league and invite you 9 or 11 friends to play. Use any rules you want, but if you want a World Championship, you need world championship rules that are hard. Excellent post Vega$
Actually, you can have 14 teams and 2 RBs. That's 28 by my count. There are even 4 extra starters. I guess it comes down to making the right decisions at the right time. This contest is very fair, and it is proven there is NO draft advantage. It all has to do with who you draft.
Changing to 1 RB is a cop out, anyone who feels it is too hard, then don't join (Sorry Greg). All people do is complain and wnat to make this easier. People are looking for All Star teams and an easier for them to compete.
Anyone cans start a high entry league and invite you 9 or 11 friends to play. Use any rules you want, but if you want a World Championship, you need world championship rules that are hard. Excellent post Vega$
14 or 12 team leagues.. which is better for NFFC going forward.
Originally posted by Route C:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by UFS:
[QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
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I'm watching the proceedings of the NFFC mid-season league that has gone with 1 starting RB, 3 WRs and two Flex positions. I notice that one team continually goes with 1 RB and FIVE WRs and is leading the way.
Finally! Intelligence prevails. Shhhhhhhhhh..... Actually, not sure what Greg is seeing, but Swamp Lizards is leading the league which has 2 flex spots and only 1 starting RB slot
He drafted Culpepper first overall and looks brilliant already... but as far as 1 RB and 5 WR that only happened once during Travis Henry's bye week:
Week 5 (our first week) he started 3 RB (Travis Henry, Aaron Stecker, Stephen Davis)
Week 6 he started just Stephen Davis (Travis Henry was on bye)
Week 7 he started Travis Henry and Brad Hoover
[QUOTE]Originally posted by UFS:
[QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
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I'm watching the proceedings of the NFFC mid-season league that has gone with 1 starting RB, 3 WRs and two Flex positions. I notice that one team continually goes with 1 RB and FIVE WRs and is leading the way.
Finally! Intelligence prevails. Shhhhhhhhhh.....
Actually, not sure what Greg is seeing, but Swamp Lizards is leading the league which has 2 flex spots and only 1 starting RB slotHe drafted Culpepper first overall and looks brilliant already... but as far as 1 RB and 5 WR that only happened once during Travis Henry's bye week:
Week 5 (our first week) he started 3 RB (Travis Henry, Aaron Stecker, Stephen Davis)
Week 6 he started just Stephen Davis (Travis Henry was on bye)
Week 7 he started Travis Henry and Brad Hoover
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Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by UFS:
The argument really isn't about draft slots. wrong. you will be enlightened later tonight, as will all.
Originally posted by UFS:
It's about which owners make the BEST picks overall. And that my friends, you can do from any spot. mr wizard told me that one. almost like saying that you can live longer if you don't drink booze. you are stating the obvious.
Originally posted by UFS:
Gordon, give me some FACTS about why ANY particular spot is any better. Don't give me that BS garbage, or I need 3 hours garbage, give me some facts. Give me a SHREAD of evidence that supports your claim. I have yet to see it. i will bring it. you want FACTS, i got FACTS. check back at 8pm. get your excuses ready. btw, your 20 years of data (as it relates to this event) is flawed due to trading, etc...
Originally posted by UFS:
The best teams in ANY of those leagues are the ones that pick the best OVERALL teams within the rules. If you pick the MOST quality players for that season, then you stand the best chance of winning, especially if you can escape injuries.read my mr wizard response above. same goes here. [/QUOTE]Thought I'd check in after running my results. Typical response. You should go into politics.
My drafts are very similar to the drafts here, even with trading... and the ONE team that drafted Culpepper and Vick this year by rd 4 is 0-7 and can't trade either one because RB's are too valuable. (nathan, how ya doing w/ Favre and Vick?)
My system and this system are so close, that the similarities in the draft results can be compared. The main one being, 20 years of 14-team leagues. How many 14-team leagues have you played in? How many 90 minute, 18-20 round conference calls have you conducted where you write down every pick? I've done so many, that I was overcharged $45,000 by ATT on conference calls and that almost made an appearance on Dateline.
Are the rules exactly the same? No.
Are they very similar? yes.
When you study the drafts posted here and my drafts, are the same basic draft strategies employed?
Yes, even down to a few #14 teams taking TWO WR's with their first two picks.
[ October 26, 2004, 01:33 AM: Message edited by: UFS ]
quote:Originally posted by UFS:
The argument really isn't about draft slots. wrong. you will be enlightened later tonight, as will all.
Originally posted by UFS:
It's about which owners make the BEST picks overall. And that my friends, you can do from any spot. mr wizard told me that one. almost like saying that you can live longer if you don't drink booze. you are stating the obvious.
Originally posted by UFS:
Gordon, give me some FACTS about why ANY particular spot is any better. Don't give me that BS garbage, or I need 3 hours garbage, give me some facts. Give me a SHREAD of evidence that supports your claim. I have yet to see it. i will bring it. you want FACTS, i got FACTS. check back at 8pm. get your excuses ready. btw, your 20 years of data (as it relates to this event) is flawed due to trading, etc...
Originally posted by UFS:
The best teams in ANY of those leagues are the ones that pick the best OVERALL teams within the rules. If you pick the MOST quality players for that season, then you stand the best chance of winning, especially if you can escape injuries.read my mr wizard response above. same goes here. [/QUOTE]Thought I'd check in after running my results. Typical response. You should go into politics.
My drafts are very similar to the drafts here, even with trading... and the ONE team that drafted Culpepper and Vick this year by rd 4 is 0-7 and can't trade either one because RB's are too valuable. (nathan, how ya doing w/ Favre and Vick?)
My system and this system are so close, that the similarities in the draft results can be compared. The main one being, 20 years of 14-team leagues. How many 14-team leagues have you played in? How many 90 minute, 18-20 round conference calls have you conducted where you write down every pick? I've done so many, that I was overcharged $45,000 by ATT on conference calls and that almost made an appearance on Dateline.
Are the rules exactly the same? No.
Are they very similar? yes.
When you study the drafts posted here and my drafts, are the same basic draft strategies employed?
Yes, even down to a few #14 teams taking TWO WR's with their first two picks.
[ October 26, 2004, 01:33 AM: Message edited by: UFS ]
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Originally posted by renman:
i have a very good sense that this NFFC thing is really going to take off over the next few years and be a consistently popular high stakes fantasy event. the main reason for this is (aside from how much we all enjoy fantasy football) how well it seems to be run and how hands on the guys running it are.
i was on the fence about this league prior to the season as it was my first venture into a high stakes fantasy leagues. i, like many here, dominated my local leagues with local pals and wanted to challenge self against the big boys. i emailed the league to ask some questions that would help me determine if i was going to try this league. i got an email from Greg Ambrosius that was so professional and courteous that it really shocked me. how i was treated by Greg over the coming couple weeks really lead to me joining this league as opposed to others i was peeking at. he was up front about the average entries they were having and the change in the top prize. i am sure i am not the only one who was treated so well. and because of this i firmly believe this league/event will grow and be very popular in coming seasons.
i have noticed many debates and threads on this message board among member on ways to make the league better, more popular, more fun, etc. things that might lead to more entries (word of mouth among players will do that in my opinion and the fact there are regional draft sites).
here is a new topic to debate... which would be better? 14 or 12 team leagues? what are the pros and cons. to me, the one problem with a 14 team league is some teams can really get flat out SHUT OUT of enough starting RB's to even field starters during bye weeks. with theoretically only 32 starting RB's available. and each team needing 3 to cover all weeks plus bye weeks, there are not enough starting RB's to go around in a 14 team league. and of course i do know things change during the season, rosters change, roles change (droughns/mcGahee/mewelde etc).
i was thinking maybe with a 14 team league, owners can get pigeon holed into "must picks" where they MUST take this marginal RB because he is one of the last remaining, rather then a good player they like at another position. i was wondering if 12 team leagues would be a bit more fair, or give owners more latitude and flexibility during the draft process... plus, with 12 team leagues maybe there will be less debate over what draft position one draws if it is random...
I am not sure i am 100% for one way or the other. i am just throwing the topic out there and i am curious to hear the thoughts from the other serious fantasy footballers here... It's 6 of one, half dozen of another - IMO a 12 team league will draw more participants to the the NFFC, so while there may be greater depth at the RB position there will also be more leagues and thus more competetion for the top prize. That would be my choice, there'd be more talent available to compete for the league's first place, but there would be more leagues and thus more competition for the grand prize.
i have a very good sense that this NFFC thing is really going to take off over the next few years and be a consistently popular high stakes fantasy event. the main reason for this is (aside from how much we all enjoy fantasy football) how well it seems to be run and how hands on the guys running it are.
i was on the fence about this league prior to the season as it was my first venture into a high stakes fantasy leagues. i, like many here, dominated my local leagues with local pals and wanted to challenge self against the big boys. i emailed the league to ask some questions that would help me determine if i was going to try this league. i got an email from Greg Ambrosius that was so professional and courteous that it really shocked me. how i was treated by Greg over the coming couple weeks really lead to me joining this league as opposed to others i was peeking at. he was up front about the average entries they were having and the change in the top prize. i am sure i am not the only one who was treated so well. and because of this i firmly believe this league/event will grow and be very popular in coming seasons.
i have noticed many debates and threads on this message board among member on ways to make the league better, more popular, more fun, etc. things that might lead to more entries (word of mouth among players will do that in my opinion and the fact there are regional draft sites).
here is a new topic to debate... which would be better? 14 or 12 team leagues? what are the pros and cons. to me, the one problem with a 14 team league is some teams can really get flat out SHUT OUT of enough starting RB's to even field starters during bye weeks. with theoretically only 32 starting RB's available. and each team needing 3 to cover all weeks plus bye weeks, there are not enough starting RB's to go around in a 14 team league. and of course i do know things change during the season, rosters change, roles change (droughns/mcGahee/mewelde etc).
i was thinking maybe with a 14 team league, owners can get pigeon holed into "must picks" where they MUST take this marginal RB because he is one of the last remaining, rather then a good player they like at another position. i was wondering if 12 team leagues would be a bit more fair, or give owners more latitude and flexibility during the draft process... plus, with 12 team leagues maybe there will be less debate over what draft position one draws if it is random...
I am not sure i am 100% for one way or the other. i am just throwing the topic out there and i am curious to hear the thoughts from the other serious fantasy footballers here... It's 6 of one, half dozen of another - IMO a 12 team league will draw more participants to the the NFFC, so while there may be greater depth at the RB position there will also be more leagues and thus more competetion for the top prize. That would be my choice, there'd be more talent available to compete for the league's first place, but there would be more leagues and thus more competition for the grand prize.
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