2005 NFFC Regular Season Facts
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:47 am
Originally posted by Dyv:
Greg, give us the reason why NOT to have a league playoff? I'm curious why you are opposed to the idea because I can't think of anything negative. I know you're impressed by someone going 12-1 but I'm not at all... I'm far more impressed by Team NEW's huge points than by someone else who got lucky enough to catch people on bye weeks or injuries, etc. What is so impressive about going 12-1 ? or 11-2 and putting up 30th place points in doing so? I don't get it... ?
Edumacate me?
Dyv Okay, Dyv, this is really an easy answer for me. Bottom line is that I believe the h2h champion shows the more consistent team and beating 13 other league competitors deserves the top prize. I put a large emphasis on total points in the overall contest as the majority of our total payout goes to the top point getters.
As for the leagues, I believe we can determine the top 2 teams during the regular season and leave the playoffs for the grand prize. Adding a 1-week or 3-week playoff to determine who was better during the regular season (h2h or total points) only proves who was the best team during that playoff run.
It's okay for us to agree to disagree on this philosophical point: Who was the best league team, the h2h champion or the total points champion? But honestly, a team with the most points could benefit from some HUGE weeks, while the h2h champion could benefit from some favorable matchups. Each has its flaws.
I'm going to pick Gordon Gekko's Las Vegas League 3 team to prove the good and bad of both sides. Gordon's Teenage Wasteland team won $1,500 for finishing with the most points, 1877.05. He finished 9-4 by winning his last 5 games (4-4 at one point) as admittedly he made some solid in-season free agent pickups. C.C's Desperados won $5,000 by finishing tied for first place at 10-3, winning the tie-breaker with 1,772.65 points. So Gordon had 104.4 more points, but won $3,500 less.
Now realize that GG scored 1,006.2 points during his last 6 games, including the high point total of 203.05 in Week 10. He went 5-1 during that stretch, losing a tough matchup in Week 8. C.C.'s Desperados, on the other hand, went 6-0 and scored 891.1 points during that time. So over the last 6 weeks of the 13-week schedule, GG outscored CC by 105.1 points, the difference in their overall total, but lost one game in the standings.
Was Teenage Wasteland the best team over the entire season? Possibly. Or was it the hottest team over the last 6 weeks, thus covering a poor start? Possibly. He did post a 90.5 and a 109.2 (both losses) early in the year, but to his credit he did not earn one easy matchup win and suffered one tough loss based on matchup. C.C.'s Desperados, on the other hand, had four games where they scored under 110 points and won two of those.
My solution next year is to pay more to the total points winner, while you are calling for a playoff to determine the difference between these two teams. It's a philosophical difference. My feeling is that Gordon has a head-start in the overall contest now, albeit only an 8 point advantage over C.C.'s Desperados, where $100,000 can be won.
You like to reward total points only. I want to reward both without a playoff. I'll listen to the masses if the call goes out for a change.
Greg, give us the reason why NOT to have a league playoff? I'm curious why you are opposed to the idea because I can't think of anything negative. I know you're impressed by someone going 12-1 but I'm not at all... I'm far more impressed by Team NEW's huge points than by someone else who got lucky enough to catch people on bye weeks or injuries, etc. What is so impressive about going 12-1 ? or 11-2 and putting up 30th place points in doing so? I don't get it... ?
Edumacate me?
Dyv Okay, Dyv, this is really an easy answer for me. Bottom line is that I believe the h2h champion shows the more consistent team and beating 13 other league competitors deserves the top prize. I put a large emphasis on total points in the overall contest as the majority of our total payout goes to the top point getters.
As for the leagues, I believe we can determine the top 2 teams during the regular season and leave the playoffs for the grand prize. Adding a 1-week or 3-week playoff to determine who was better during the regular season (h2h or total points) only proves who was the best team during that playoff run.
It's okay for us to agree to disagree on this philosophical point: Who was the best league team, the h2h champion or the total points champion? But honestly, a team with the most points could benefit from some HUGE weeks, while the h2h champion could benefit from some favorable matchups. Each has its flaws.
I'm going to pick Gordon Gekko's Las Vegas League 3 team to prove the good and bad of both sides. Gordon's Teenage Wasteland team won $1,500 for finishing with the most points, 1877.05. He finished 9-4 by winning his last 5 games (4-4 at one point) as admittedly he made some solid in-season free agent pickups. C.C's Desperados won $5,000 by finishing tied for first place at 10-3, winning the tie-breaker with 1,772.65 points. So Gordon had 104.4 more points, but won $3,500 less.
Now realize that GG scored 1,006.2 points during his last 6 games, including the high point total of 203.05 in Week 10. He went 5-1 during that stretch, losing a tough matchup in Week 8. C.C.'s Desperados, on the other hand, went 6-0 and scored 891.1 points during that time. So over the last 6 weeks of the 13-week schedule, GG outscored CC by 105.1 points, the difference in their overall total, but lost one game in the standings.
Was Teenage Wasteland the best team over the entire season? Possibly. Or was it the hottest team over the last 6 weeks, thus covering a poor start? Possibly. He did post a 90.5 and a 109.2 (both losses) early in the year, but to his credit he did not earn one easy matchup win and suffered one tough loss based on matchup. C.C.'s Desperados, on the other hand, had four games where they scored under 110 points and won two of those.
My solution next year is to pay more to the total points winner, while you are calling for a playoff to determine the difference between these two teams. It's a philosophical difference. My feeling is that Gordon has a head-start in the overall contest now, albeit only an 8 point advantage over C.C.'s Desperados, where $100,000 can be won.
You like to reward total points only. I want to reward both without a playoff. I'll listen to the masses if the call goes out for a change.