NFFC League Playoffs 2012

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:24 pm

Since this thread has been pretty much about the QB scoring, that is what I will focus on.

I like the 6 pt per TD. Yes, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady are well ahead of others, but so are Calvin and Welker. I remember in 2007 when people said the same thing about Brady and Moss.....and how did that turn out for their owners? They were a complete disappointment in the 3 week sprint.

And I am also betting that those who spent an early pick on Vick or Rivers aren't feeling too good right now. Conversely, I am betting there are plenty of playoff teams who have Newton or Eli at the helm.

If you go full PPR (which I think you should), you MUST keep the 6 pts per TD pass. Otherwise it is just going to be a RB feeding frenzy the first 2 rounds.

As for the INT's, I do see Wayne's point, as it sucks when there is a tipped pass and it is picked. However, what I find FAR more irritating is watching someone like Matthew Stafford (only using him because he is most recent) play a PITIFUL game on Thanksgiving Day throwing THREE picks and getting one garbage TD late and he still scores 21+ points! That just isn't right. I vote for -2 for the INT's.

Bottom line with the QB in these leagues is if you feel you can find the Cam, Eli, etc. you build everything else up and wait.

If you want that big stud QB, you take him, but you know you are giving up a potential great position player.

I think it is what makes the strategy here at the NFFC so great.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:29 pm

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
Since this thread has been pretty much about the QB scoring, that is what I will focus on.

I like the 6 pt per TD. Yes, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady are well ahead of others, but so are Calvin and Welker. I remember in 2007 when people said the same thing about Brady and Moss.....and how did that turn out for their owners? They were a complete disappointment in the 3 week sprint.

And I am also betting that those who spent an early pick on Vick or Rivers aren't feeling too good right now. Conversely, I am betting there are plenty of playoff teams who have Newton or Eli at the helm.

If you go full PPR (which I think you should), you MUST keep the 6 pts per TD pass. Otherwise it is just going to be a RB feeding frenzy the first 2 rounds.

As for the INT's, I do see Wayne's point, as it sucks when there is a tipped pass and it is picked. However, what I find FAR more irritating is watching someone like Matthew Stafford (only using him because he is most recent) play a PITIFUL game on Thanksgiving Day throwing THREE picks and getting one garbage TD late and he still scores 21+ points! That just isn't right. I vote for -2 for the INT's.

Bottom line with the QB in these leagues is if you feel you can find the Cam, Eli, etc. you build everything else up and wait.

If you want that big stud QB, you take him, but you know you are giving up a potential great position player.

I think it is what makes the strategy here at the NFFC so great. Not sure if this could be programmed, but how about this for interceptions?

1st interception: -1 points
2nd interception: -2 points
3rd interception: -3 points
4th interception: -4 points

So if a QB has a truly horrific performance, it's going to cost him dearly (negative 10 points for a 4 INT game).

particra · Post by **particra** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:30 pm

Agreed that the .5 PPR for RBs has run its course.

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:39 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:
quote:Originally posted by BillyWaz:
Since this thread has been pretty much about the QB scoring, that is what I will focus on.

I like the 6 pt per TD. Yes, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady are well ahead of others, but so are Calvin and Welker. I remember in 2007 when people said the same thing about Brady and Moss.....and how did that turn out for their owners? They were a complete disappointment in the 3 week sprint.

And I am also betting that those who spent an early pick on Vick or Rivers aren't feeling too good right now. Conversely, I am betting there are plenty of playoff teams who have Newton or Eli at the helm.

If you go full PPR (which I think you should), you MUST keep the 6 pts per TD pass. Otherwise it is just going to be a RB feeding frenzy the first 2 rounds.

As for the INT's, I do see Wayne's point, as it sucks when there is a tipped pass and it is picked. However, what I find FAR more irritating is watching someone like Matthew Stafford (only using him because he is most recent) play a PITIFUL game on Thanksgiving Day throwing THREE picks and getting one garbage TD late and he still scores 21+ points! That just isn't right. I vote for -2 for the INT's.

Bottom line with the QB in these leagues is if you feel you can find the Cam, Eli, etc. you build everything else up and wait.

If you want that big stud QB, you take him, but you know you are giving up a potential great position player.

I think it is what makes the strategy here at the NFFC so great. Not sure if this could be programmed, but how about this for interceptions?

1st interception: -1 points
2nd interception: -2 points
3rd interception: -3 points
4th interception: -4 points

So if a QB has a truly horrific performance, it's going to cost him dearly (negative 10 points for a 4 INT game). [/QUOTE]That would be AWESOME. Seriously.....your proposal was good.....this is GREAT!!!

CoMoHusker · Post by **CoMoHusker** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:43 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:
quote:Originally posted by BillyWaz:
Since this thread has been pretty much about the QB scoring, that is what I will focus on.

I like the 6 pt per TD. Yes, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady are well ahead of others, but so are Calvin and Welker. I remember in 2007 when people said the same thing about Brady and Moss.....and how did that turn out for their owners? They were a complete disappointment in the 3 week sprint.

And I am also betting that those who spent an early pick on Vick or Rivers aren't feeling too good right now. Conversely, I am betting there are plenty of playoff teams who have Newton or Eli at the helm.

If you go full PPR (which I think you should), you MUST keep the 6 pts per TD pass. Otherwise it is just going to be a RB feeding frenzy the first 2 rounds.

As for the INT's, I do see Wayne's point, as it sucks when there is a tipped pass and it is picked. However, what I find FAR more irritating is watching someone like Matthew Stafford (only using him because he is most recent) play a PITIFUL game on Thanksgiving Day throwing THREE picks and getting one garbage TD late and he still scores 21+ points! That just isn't right. I vote for -2 for the INT's.

Bottom line with the QB in these leagues is if you feel you can find the Cam, Eli, etc. you build everything else up and wait.

If you want that big stud QB, you take him, but you know you are giving up a potential great position player.

I think it is what makes the strategy here at the NFFC so great. Not sure if this could be programmed, but how about this for interceptions?

1st interception: -1 points
2nd interception: -2 points
3rd interception: -3 points
4th interception: -4 points

So if a QB has a truly horrific performance, it's going to cost him dearly (negative 10 points for a 4 INT game). [/QUOTE]I'm in a couple home leagues where all turnovers are -2 points and three turnovers in a game are an additional -5 pts. As you can imagine, this mostly impacts QB's. So three INT's in a game would result in -11 pts before you add in any other stats. Seems to work well.

kjduke · Post by **kjduke** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:44 pm

I like the progressive on INTs, do the same for fumbles - a guy fumbles three times but catches one 20 yd pass he's at breakeven pts.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:45 pm

Philadelphia Eagles 45 at Chicago Cardinals 7
Sunday, September 24, 1950

Jim Hardy, QB, Chicago Cardinals: 12-42-193-1-8

NFFC Scoring: NEGATIVE 20.35

Coyote Streakers · Post by **Coyote Streakers** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:09 pm

I like the playoff proposal by KOQ.
I like the 1 PPR for all.
Dislike negative points for turnovers.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:17 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:
quote:Originally posted by BillyWaz:
Since this thread has been pretty much about the QB scoring, that is what I will focus on.

I like the 6 pt per TD. Yes, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady are well ahead of others, but so are Calvin and Welker. I remember in 2007 when people said the same thing about Brady and Moss.....and how did that turn out for their owners? They were a complete disappointment in the 3 week sprint.

And I am also betting that those who spent an early pick on Vick or Rivers aren't feeling too good right now. Conversely, I am betting there are plenty of playoff teams who have Newton or Eli at the helm.

If you go full PPR (which I think you should), you MUST keep the 6 pts per TD pass. Otherwise it is just going to be a RB feeding frenzy the first 2 rounds.

As for the INT's, I do see Wayne's point, as it sucks when there is a tipped pass and it is picked. However, what I find FAR more irritating is watching someone like Matthew Stafford (only using him because he is most recent) play a PITIFUL game on Thanksgiving Day throwing THREE picks and getting one garbage TD late and he still scores 21+ points! That just isn't right. I vote for -2 for the INT's.

Bottom line with the QB in these leagues is if you feel you can find the Cam, Eli, etc. you build everything else up and wait.

If you want that big stud QB, you take him, but you know you are giving up a potential great position player.

I think it is what makes the strategy here at the NFFC so great. Not sure if this could be programmed, but how about this for interceptions?

1st interception: -1 points
2nd interception: -2 points
3rd interception: -3 points
4th interception: -4 points

So if a QB has a truly horrific performance, it's going to cost him dearly (negative 10 points for a 4 INT game). [/QUOTE]This idea is completely yours....and I like it!!

I'm not sure if it could be programmed or explained easily, but it's interesting. Lost fumbles could be done the same way. I'm not big on negative points and that's why we have gone -1 through the years for each turnover, but this is a worthy proposal. At the very least, it's better than just -2 points per interception that I had proposed yesterday. It has reasoning and Billy is right, Stafford's NFL performance should have been represented more similarly in NFFC scoring, and it wasn't.

Creative ideas on this thread, yet smart ideas.

Money · Post by **Money** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:18 pm

I like the KOQ playoff proposal and the rules as used in the OC championship. 6 pt QB TD, PPR is a must, .5 for RB with 1 full point for WR and TE's.

I think its quite fair and evens out all the positions. If it ain't broke......