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quote:Originally posted by 4D:
quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:
quote:Originally posted by Nag':
quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:
Ultimately it's Greg's decision but I know we're both in agreement that you need to have a final deadline of some kind so people don't have to wait a week or so to find out if they won or lost the previous week. I can't call this anything other than pure nonsense. Weeks? What weeks? We're talking about a 1 day difference, between Wednesday afternoon and say a Thursday night. As I said, this season Elias has made Thursday the day for stat change announcements. If you admit this is Greg's decision that I am even more disappointed in his choice. The right decision would have been to do EVERYTHING in your power to make sure stats are correct and you are here on record stating that you REFUSE to do it. Ok, no problem. [/QUOTE]The rules are in place for this season, Alex. Again, we are willing to listen to suggestions going forward if people want to see any changes made. I think you know Greg and I have been very responsive to our participants' requests since Day 1. But the rule is in place for this season.
Attacking your integrity? Please. A typo would be Wnsday. Thursday is not a typo. It's a different day. And asking you which day is the right one isn't questioning your integrity, it's questioning which day. You know, which day is right in the contract we signed? The one that you can't be changed during the year we are playing in.The deadline is Wednesday. [/QUOTE]Wonderful, are there any other typos in the rules that we should be aware of? [/QUOTE]Billy Waz, you and everyone here has gone CRAZY blasting another event when anything has gone wrong.[/QUOTE]Lou,
I blasted the other contest when LENNY was in charge as that guy based on MANY instances I saw was completely rude to customers, and all he cared about was turning a buck.
Since they have changed ownership I not only have said nothing, but I have changed my monniker ("WCOFF, SCHMYCOFF, REAL MEN PLAY IN THE NFFC!), and DO plan to play in that event next year.
Your contest is only as good as the people who run it IMO, and I think the NFFC is top notch (and again, I have played in as many as anyone else).
Nag simply has bitched and moaned about this contest REPEATEDLY. WHY DOES HE CONTINUE TO PLAY????
You Lou (from what I know) have always been someone who has admitted when they are wrong, but Nag has "Fonzarellitis" (he can't and WON'T admit he is wrong).
Not saying his opinion on the situation is wrong, but when I ask him a SIMPLE question "why do you continue to play? (if he has that many issues), what does he do????
Asks me if my back is sore from all the ass kissing.
I could come back with something, but I will let this go.
You know your buddy as well as anyone Lou, and if he IS wrong, he is going to make damn sure everyone else ISN'T right! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Yoda's S*x Slave:
quote:Originally posted by BillyWaz:
quote:Originally posted by Nag':
quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:
Our rules about scoring changes are quite clear and listed in our Rules section. As always, we're happy to hear any suggestions about changes going forward. But for this season the rules are in place. This is a total cop-out Tom. You should've done the right thing here a long time ago. You're making a mistake here. [/QUOTE]The point is Greg and Tom BEND OVER BACKWARDS for this contest, and while I don't always agree with everything, they certainly do more wrong than right , [/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]right than wrong, obviously a typo as my position on this is quite clear (it has been fixed in the original post)
My mistake!
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quote:Originally posted by BillyWaz:
quote:Originally posted by Nag':
quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:
Our rules about scoring changes are quite clear and listed in our Rules section. As always, we're happy to hear any suggestions about changes going forward. But for this season the rules are in place. This is a total cop-out Tom. You should've done the right thing here a long time ago. You're making a mistake here. [/QUOTE]The point is Greg and Tom BEND OVER BACKWARDS for this contest, and while I don't always agree with everything, they certainly do more wrong than right , [/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]right than wrong, obviously a typo as my position on this is quite clear (it has been fixed in the original post)My mistake!
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Great topic...for 2008 NFFC rules changes.
This must be a conspiracy to rob Billy Waz of his Week 10 prize.
This must be a conspiracy to rob Billy Waz of his Week 10 prize.
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Originally posted by BillyWaz:
Lou,
I blasted the other contest when LENNY was in charge as that guy based on MANY instances I saw was completely rude to customers, and all he cared about was turning a buck.
Since they have changed ownership I not only have said nothing, but I have changed my monniker ("WCOFF, SCHMYCOFF, REAL MEN PLAY IN THE NFFC!), and DO plan to play in that event next year.
Your contest is only as good as the people who run it IMO, and I think the NFFC is top notch (and again, I have played in as many as anyone else).
Nag simply has bitched and moaned about this contest REPEATEDLY. WHY DOES HE CONTINUE TO PLAY????
You Lou (from what I know) have always been someone who has admitted when they are wrong, but Nag has "Fonzarellitis" (he can't and WON'T admit he is wrong).
Not saying his opinion on the situation is wrong, but when I ask him a SIMPLE question "why do you continue to play? (if he has that many issues), what does he do????
Asks me if my back is sore from all the ass kissing.
I could come back with something, but I will let this go.
You know your buddy as well as anyone Lou, and if he IS wrong, he is going to make damn sure everyone else ISN'T right! :rolleyes: Billwaz, please save your long-winded, empty posts for further asskissing and trying to prove to snake that he sucks at FF. Thanks.
Lou,
I blasted the other contest when LENNY was in charge as that guy based on MANY instances I saw was completely rude to customers, and all he cared about was turning a buck.
Since they have changed ownership I not only have said nothing, but I have changed my monniker ("WCOFF, SCHMYCOFF, REAL MEN PLAY IN THE NFFC!), and DO plan to play in that event next year.
Your contest is only as good as the people who run it IMO, and I think the NFFC is top notch (and again, I have played in as many as anyone else).
Nag simply has bitched and moaned about this contest REPEATEDLY. WHY DOES HE CONTINUE TO PLAY????
You Lou (from what I know) have always been someone who has admitted when they are wrong, but Nag has "Fonzarellitis" (he can't and WON'T admit he is wrong).
Not saying his opinion on the situation is wrong, but when I ask him a SIMPLE question "why do you continue to play? (if he has that many issues), what does he do????
Asks me if my back is sore from all the ass kissing.
I could come back with something, but I will let this go.
You know your buddy as well as anyone Lou, and if he IS wrong, he is going to make damn sure everyone else ISN'T right! :rolleyes: Billwaz, please save your long-winded, empty posts for further asskissing and trying to prove to snake that he sucks at FF. Thanks.
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Originally posted by Nag':
quote:Originally posted by Route C:
1) Gekkos suggestion to have a personal conversation with Greg.....trying to encite the masses to riot is just way to "ladies gossip club" for me. Enciting riots is not my style. That's a job well done by others around here. This issue should've recieved front page attention the moment the first scoring change wasn't made and it did not. I simply wanted to continue bringing attention to it and show the weekly impact of this rule. People need to know that they are not getting the correct scores. And I'll tell you something else, I'll be sure to pay close attention to scoring changes come weeks 14-16 and how/if they effect outcomes. [/QUOTE]It may not be your style Alex but it sure seems that way on this thread. I base that on the fact that you completely dodged the question about giving Greg a call and you made a statement that you were opposed to posts that "make it personal" while telling anyone who didn't agree with you that they were without balls and a$$ kissers of Greg.
To me that is pretty agressive and would qualify my statement.
Is there anything I just said that isn't true?
quote:Originally posted by Route C:
1) Gekkos suggestion to have a personal conversation with Greg.....trying to encite the masses to riot is just way to "ladies gossip club" for me. Enciting riots is not my style. That's a job well done by others around here. This issue should've recieved front page attention the moment the first scoring change wasn't made and it did not. I simply wanted to continue bringing attention to it and show the weekly impact of this rule. People need to know that they are not getting the correct scores. And I'll tell you something else, I'll be sure to pay close attention to scoring changes come weeks 14-16 and how/if they effect outcomes. [/QUOTE]It may not be your style Alex but it sure seems that way on this thread. I base that on the fact that you completely dodged the question about giving Greg a call and you made a statement that you were opposed to posts that "make it personal" while telling anyone who didn't agree with you that they were without balls and a$$ kissers of Greg.
To me that is pretty agressive and would qualify my statement.
Is there anything I just said that isn't true?
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I just wonder why it took 3 year and 10 weeks to bring up this subject.
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IMfeebleO, From a business or legal stand point,
1) I think it is fine for the provider to adjust or clarify an interpretation of a rule during a season if a situation arises.
2) I do not think the provider should change a RULE during the season and this is what is being asked to do by Alex.
IMO, there is a difference and doing #2 would open them up to liability.
Alex, I understand that this is an issue that is one of those situations that is obvious to all. We all agree that it should be changed. Where we disagree is whether or not it would be kosher to make this move at this point in the season.
We will have to agree to disagree and know that this "Rule" will be dead-on starting 2008. Thanks for bringing it up.
Note: All of the personal stuff needs to stop by everyone. That shouldn't need to be said over and over but here we go again.
1) I think it is fine for the provider to adjust or clarify an interpretation of a rule during a season if a situation arises.
2) I do not think the provider should change a RULE during the season and this is what is being asked to do by Alex.
IMO, there is a difference and doing #2 would open them up to liability.
Alex, I understand that this is an issue that is one of those situations that is obvious to all. We all agree that it should be changed. Where we disagree is whether or not it would be kosher to make this move at this point in the season.
We will have to agree to disagree and know that this "Rule" will be dead-on starting 2008. Thanks for bringing it up.
Note: All of the personal stuff needs to stop by everyone. That shouldn't need to be said over and over but here we go again.
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Originally posted by Route C:
quote:Originally posted by Nag':
quote:Originally posted by Route C:
1) Gekkos suggestion to have a personal conversation with Greg.....trying to encite the masses to riot is just way to "ladies gossip club" for me. Enciting riots is not my style. That's a job well done by others around here. This issue should've recieved front page attention the moment the first scoring change wasn't made and it did not. I simply wanted to continue bringing attention to it and show the weekly impact of this rule. People need to know that they are not getting the correct scores. And I'll tell you something else, I'll be sure to pay close attention to scoring changes come weeks 14-16 and how/if they effect outcomes. [/QUOTE]It may not be your style Alex but it sure seems that way on this thread. I base that on the fact that you completely dodged the question about giving Greg a call and you made a statement that you were opposed to posts that "make it personal" while telling anyone who didn't agree with you that they were without balls and a$$ kissers of Greg.
To me that is pretty agressive and would qualify my statement.
Is there anything I just said that isn't true? [/QUOTE]I'm not sure I understand. I should've called Greg? Why, because someone else thinks I should've? This is not a personal issue - it's a public issue. And by posting on the message board - as I always have done - I am enciting a riot? That's ridiculous. There is nothing in my original post that suggests this is my intention. As far as telling people they don't have balls for calling out Greg/Tom on this - guess what? - they DON'T!!! As Lou said, WCOFF and Lenny would've got KILLED by the same people hiding behind the "it's in the rules" excuse because they're taking it easy on the NFFC. And that's expected, but I'm not going to pretend like it's not happening.
quote:Originally posted by Nag':
quote:Originally posted by Route C:
1) Gekkos suggestion to have a personal conversation with Greg.....trying to encite the masses to riot is just way to "ladies gossip club" for me. Enciting riots is not my style. That's a job well done by others around here. This issue should've recieved front page attention the moment the first scoring change wasn't made and it did not. I simply wanted to continue bringing attention to it and show the weekly impact of this rule. People need to know that they are not getting the correct scores. And I'll tell you something else, I'll be sure to pay close attention to scoring changes come weeks 14-16 and how/if they effect outcomes. [/QUOTE]It may not be your style Alex but it sure seems that way on this thread. I base that on the fact that you completely dodged the question about giving Greg a call and you made a statement that you were opposed to posts that "make it personal" while telling anyone who didn't agree with you that they were without balls and a$$ kissers of Greg.
To me that is pretty agressive and would qualify my statement.
Is there anything I just said that isn't true? [/QUOTE]I'm not sure I understand. I should've called Greg? Why, because someone else thinks I should've? This is not a personal issue - it's a public issue. And by posting on the message board - as I always have done - I am enciting a riot? That's ridiculous. There is nothing in my original post that suggests this is my intention. As far as telling people they don't have balls for calling out Greg/Tom on this - guess what? - they DON'T!!! As Lou said, WCOFF and Lenny would've got KILLED by the same people hiding behind the "it's in the rules" excuse because they're taking it easy on the NFFC. And that's expected, but I'm not going to pretend like it's not happening.
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Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
I just wonder why it took 3 year and 10 weeks to bring up this subject. I'll repeat it again. Elias has made it a point this year to announce all stat changes on Thursday. I don't know if it's an official date or not but I do not remember it being this way on the past. It is my contention that as soon as this was realized - and it was pointed out by me a few weeks ago - the Wednesday date should have been pushed back to Thursday. This would've been the right thing to do for the sake of accurate stats and would've been welcomed by everyone (except for one person who thinks getting stats corrected isn't as important as setting FA bids).
I just wonder why it took 3 year and 10 weeks to bring up this subject. I'll repeat it again. Elias has made it a point this year to announce all stat changes on Thursday. I don't know if it's an official date or not but I do not remember it being this way on the past. It is my contention that as soon as this was realized - and it was pointed out by me a few weeks ago - the Wednesday date should have been pushed back to Thursday. This would've been the right thing to do for the sake of accurate stats and would've been welcomed by everyone (except for one person who thinks getting stats corrected isn't as important as setting FA bids).
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As for the future of this rule, would a move to a Friday deadline affect weeks where there is a Thursday game. Or will those weeks possibly have an earlier deadline?