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This post got buried at the end of a 13 page topic so in the interest of all I decided to give it a life of its own.

Greg,
In order to take advantage of the science involved in fantasy football is it possible to market and expand the auction leagues to a multi-city second main event with an overall grand prize? I think that most would agree that Auction drafts require an entirely different thought process, risk taking, creativity and approach to the draft.

I am curious if anybody else agrees that it would be great to have a couple of hundred auction teams competing for league payouts and a grand prize?

Each year the main event draft becomes more predictable, especially during the first seven to eight rounds. The main event draft has evolved to the point that we could post the NFFC satellite draft ADP for the first seven rounds and begin the live draft with round eight.

I know that as soon as I post this some is going to point out that a particular player or players moved up or down a couple of spots vs. the ADP, and I agree that there a few surprises vs. the ADP. I will also agree that drafts in some leagues are unpredictable because of the make-up of the "drafters". I also realize that there will be the argument that different draft strategies (RB, RB or WR, WR, etc.), will have some impact, however the outcome of the actual draft in most leagues support an orderly draft vs. the ADP.

Although these tendencies will continue there is no doubt that each year will we all continue watch the countdown clock for the main event. Like most of you I will continue to compete in this format and watch the clock countdown because like most of you I am also hooked. I will send in my check and convince myself that my science for the new season will be better and I will be lucky, this time.

What is the chance that we can field a major Auction event?

Follow-up from Greg:
Well, I'd certainly do it if I felt the demand was there Mike. To create something like this, however, someone like myself would have to guarantee a grand prize based on the number of entries I felt I could get and then do everything to fill it. Right now, we struggle to get 4-5 auction leagues among the four cities and one of those inevitably is a teleconference league. Most are at $650 per league and to create a worthy grand prize we'd obviously have to raise that to $1,000 or more.

If the demand is there, I'll run it. But I'm not convinced the demand for a national fantasy football auction league is there yet for a game operator to guarantee the funds to such a thing. It's too risky.

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Mike makes a GREAT point!

Why not just make the Auctions in each city a National contest? Pay overall point champ 20% and then the rest goes into the Championship round. Then, pay the top 4 places or so in that round. You could still have some nice prizes!!!

Then you don't have to guarantee anything. Maybe you could poll the Auction participants in this year's event to see their take? Just a thought.

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Any Thoughts, Any interest?

They can even grow the existing auction leagues. Many players don't want to pay the price for the learning curve. It is a nice idea, but we are years away from this being popular.

I agree with CC to a point. I think growing it from the existing auction leagues has merit. I think you'd find much more interest if the price were a bit lower than the NFFC main contest. If you had a lower price point, I think many would pay the price for a learning curve. It was why I did the one online.....$125 is a great price to get an education and I think, much like Snake, I thoroughly enjoyed that format. I would feel a little more confident going at a price point of $500 next year versus a $1300 price point. Of course, I'd do everything I did differently than the one I did this year but for $125, it was well worth the experience.

[ October 03, 2007, 09:48 PM: Message edited by: Steel Curtain ]

Originally posted by Steel Curtain:
I agree with CC to a point. I think growing it from the existing auction leagues has merit. I think you'd find much more interest if the price were a bit lower than the NFFC main contest. If you had a lower price point, I think many would pay the price for a learning curve. It was why I did the one online.....$125 is a great price to get an education and I think, much like Snake, I thoroughly enjoyed that format. I would feel a little more confident going at a price point of $500 next year versus a $1300 price point. Of course, I'd do everything I did differently than the one I did this year but for $125, it was well worth the experience. The $125 experience was ok, but it's nothing like the real game when the dollars get low. The one with the quick mouth wins rather than waiting 4 second so my computer won't freeze if I bid to quick!!

Fantasy auctioneer works fine until 10 of us try to bid at the same time.

I enjoy the auctions and have played in many. I don't think I would play in national auction event. I could just see a league with a bunch of players who don't know the game and someone picks the league apart....Tomlinson goes for $80 this year in most league. If someone stole him for say $65, that owner would have a huge edge.

Guys, if you don't mind my opinion, this could be done via satellite auctions. Using fantasyauctioneer.com, you can have as many auction leagues as possible enter this contest.

Create an entry fee of around $250 per team, and have individual league prizes, but take a fair percentage from every league to put towards a grand prize. Doing this online is MUCH easier to do. This way, we leave the live Auctions the way they have been, and create a whole new Auction perspective. And I think you can get MANY more people to join an online league than you can with a live event. And the $250 price tag won't scare people away.

Count me in, if you guys are all for this.

Marc

Sorry, I just read your post(s) about how you don't ike fantasyauctioneer.

My only gripe with that site is that it goes too fast. From a fascilitator's stand point, you just want the draft to go as QUICK as possible. From a player's stand point, you want a few seconds more than what that site offers. Other than that, I like the site.

Originally posted by Diesel:
Guys, if you don't mind my opinion, this could be done via satellite auctions. Using fantasyauctioneer.com, you can have as many auction leagues as possible enter this contest.

Create an entry fee of around $250 per team, and have individual league prizes, but take a fair percentage from every league to put towards a grand prize. Doing this online is MUCH easier to do. This way, we leave the live Auctions the way they have been, and create a whole new Auction perspective. And I think you can get MANY more people to join an online league than you can with a live event. And the $250 price tag won't scare people away.

Count me in, if you guys are all for this.

Marc They tried to run one this year. www.wcaff.com was the web site. Can you imagine how many people would be bull$hit when their computers lock up?