Draft Secret Revealed!!!

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:03 pm

Draft analysis of the top 5 teams overall shows...
Team NEW (#1 Overall)
R1 QB
R2 RB
R3 RB

Big Mac Attack (#2 Overall)
R1 RB
R2 RB
R3 RB

She Hate Me (#3 Overall)
R1 RB
R2 RB
R3 RB

fantasyjungle.com (#4 Overall)
R1 RB
R2 RB
R3 RB

Lumpy's Losers (#5 Overall)
R1 RB
R2 QB
R3 RB

Out of the first 15 draft picks for the top 5 teams in the NFFC main event, 13 of them were RUNNING BACKS!! WOW!!!! I guess owners know what to do next year. Any questions?

p.s. the two non-RB selections were, you guessed it...Culpepper. Seems like if you didn't draft RB-RB-RB or mix in Culpepper, you were drawing dead (up to this pt)

dgamblnman · Post by **dgamblnman** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:25 pm

So the traditionally high scoring position would be picked first, great revelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We all know that the demand for RB is high, WRs can be gotten in the lower rounds and QBs are relatively equal (Culpepper will come back down to earth sooner or later).

I am dazzled by your brilliance, maybe we should pick out draft spots and be assured of no stupid drafting or injured players.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:51 pm

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
So the traditionally high scoring position would be picked first, great revelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!No one would have expected that 13 out of first 15 picks would have been running backs. Your attempt at sarcasm is trumped by your obvious trigger happy keyboard fingers. 2nd time in one day I found your posts to be inaccurate. credibility slipping. sorry.

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
maybe we should pick out draft spots and be assured of no stupid drafting or injured players. be assured of no stupid drafting or injured players??? that's like saying you can't bluff in NL Holdem. Phil, you need to come with stuff better than that.

dgamblnman · Post by **dgamblnman** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:49 am

Gordon, you pointed out the obvious. You make it seem like nobody knew about the statgy. Yet, you make osme big announcement about it.

As far as my postings, it seems people are making excuses for thier teams progress so far. I see several people saying, "If the system was setup like this" or "If we did that". I find it kind of funny. It would be refreshing to see "I made a mistake" or "I guess I choose the wrong guy there" or "I guess my prediction for this player was off". But that will never happen, it seems most of the egos around here can't accept that they may not have been the smartest of draft day or that they were a bit off.

Heree are the points:

You can win from any spot.
Owners need to adjust, if you don't get your draft spot... adjust, pick wisely (Duce #12 overall, there was much better than that).
Hindsight is 20/20 - I tired of hearing how many people had Culpepper in thier sights at the beginning of the season. Yea, we all knew he would average 50 points a game (sarcasm). It seems almost everyone had a chance to get him.
Crap happens - live with it. Stop making excuses. I sucked in baseball, did I bitch once? NO. I ended up 6th in the league using a stategy I thought would be good. I was wrong, I should have done better.

Hey Gordo, what mistakes did you make so far? I know, if you were able to pick your spot, you would be better off cause you would have taken Culpepper with your first pick.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:41 am

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
Gordon, you pointed out the obvious. You make it seem like nobody knew about the statgy. Yet, you make osme big announcement about it. I thought the top teams would be RB heavy, but I didn't expect 13 out of the first 15 picks woud be RB. Maybe something like 10. So, I was suprised by the number, I'm sure others are as well. I realize you are all knowing and only think about yourself, so I could see how this wouldn't be big news to you.

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
As far as my postings, it seems people are making excuses for thier teams progress so far. It's America, Land of the Excuse. Get over it.

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
It would be refreshing to see "I made a mistake" or "I guess I choose the wrong guy there" or "I guess my prediction for this player was off". But that will never happen, it seems most of the egos around here can't accept that they may not have been the smartest of draft day or that they were a bit off. No ego here. Up to this point, I made some decisions that look like mistakes. By the end of the season, they could look like nice moves. Would I like to have chosen Culpepper over D.Davis in the first round....SURE!!! Why do you feel the need to see people posting info like that. You could fill up 100 MB pages with crap like that. Maybe it has to do with the fact that you're 6-0, and you now think you "figured it out" or that you are better than everyone else. now people should kneel in front of you

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
Heree are the points:
You can win from any spot. Agreed. Owners can win from any spot in the blind bidding format as well.

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
Owners need to adjust, if you don't get your draft spot... adjust, pick wisely Agreed. Owners need to adjust in the blind bidding format as well.

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
Crap happens - live with it. Stop making excuses. Agreed. Owners need to "live with it" in a blind bidding format as well.

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:
Hey Gordo, what mistakes did you make so far? Hopefully less than the other owners in my league.

Stop being so grumpy, Phil. Thanks.

GriffithVT · Post by **GriffithVT** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:47 am

Guys,

There is an element of luck involved. You can minimize, but luck does play some role.

Furthermore no one was slamming the draft system at the start of the season. Everyone was posting their lineup in their signature line and expressing their intention to rule the league. Some start to lose and now suddenly there are serious problems with the format. You can win from anywhere. I got Culpepper at 2-21 which seems incredible to me. I was shocked...who cares...if he broke his ankle tomorrow I'd have egg on my face.

Alot of experts here and also alot of guys almost out of the running.

Use the FA's, draft wisely and give it you best. So much ego and smoke here sometimes one can barely see.

I am happy to be 4-2 and know I'm no fantasy guru...just trying to learn the ropes...fortunate to have the Moss/Culpepper handcuff and Gonzales waking up. Hey been very lucky with Emmit and T. Glenn. I lost Garner and Galloway and am fortunate to be 4-2 and 46 overall.

I'm all for smack talking in jest; but the ego (often unjustified) and bad faith direct insluts can get old on the boards.

Just my two cents; and again what do I know..Im just a fantasy novice happy to be invited.

By the way Greg and Tom, Great job so far meeting requests etc. I'm with you guys for years to come.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:01 am

Originally posted by Gstar:
Furthermore no one was slamming the draft system at the start of the season. No one was slamming the current system, because there was no alternative. I thought about an alternative, I came up with an idea. From a player’s point of view, this idea is better than the current system. Once you understand the system, there are no downfalls.

Originally posted by Gstar:
Some start to lose and now suddenly there are serious problems with the format. I'm currently 4-2, and I proposed the idea! So the losing part of what you said really has no merit. Try again.

Originally posted by Gstar:
You can win from anywhere. No one is disputing that.

Originally posted by Gstar:
I got Culpepper at 2-21 which seems incredible to me. Now I see why you like the current system.

Originally posted by Gstar:
Use the FA's, draft wisely and give it you best. You can do this in a blind bidding draft slot format as well.

Originally posted by Gstar:
So much ego and smoke here sometimes one can barely see. Can you be more specific as far as the ego comment, i.e. who? In the business world, I see people mistakenly tab someone as having a big ego, when really they are displaying "L-E-A-D-E-R-S-H-I-P".

Originally posted by Gstar:
I'm all for smack talking in jest; but the ego (often unjustified) and bad faith direct insluts can get old on the boards.If your comments are directed at me, just don't read my posts. Just like seeing homeless guys on the street...just walk by. Thanks.

kjduke · Post by **kjduke** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:07 am

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:

Owners need to adjust, if you don't get your draft spot... adjust, pick wisely (Duce #12 overall, there was much better than that).
Thanks for remembering Vegas, I picked Duce #12.

I’ve defended that before, and now I have numbers to back it up. Of the 11 consensus 1st round RB’s, only 6 are out-performing Duce in avg ppg. None of those were available when I picked at #12. Add back the TDs that Bettis stole from him, which I didn’t anticipate, and Duce averages 18 ppg behind only Shaun, Priest, Edgerrin and LaDanian among the consensus 1st rounders.

Bottom line, exclude the 20/20 hindsight on Bettis, it was a good pick and I'd do it again.

dgamblnman · Post by **dgamblnman** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:18 am

Sorry Duke, wasn't trying to slam, but it was common knowledge (or so I thought) that Bettis would get the goal line carries, that is why I (and many others) lowered his draft value. I did draft him in the mid season league, but it was at a point where drafting him wasn't a bad idea. But as it stands, Duce is #20 on the RB scale which is close to where I had him ranked before the season started.

But my point was that picking your own draft position wouldn't neccessarily help your team out better than random draws. Everyone has different values and injuries always occurs. Sorry man.

dgamblnman · Post by **dgamblnman** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:20 am

And when I say "your", It is in general, not to one certain person. So please don't take it that way.