Not that anyone asked me, but...

mikeybok · Post by **mikeybok** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:54 am

I agree that Bye weeks and 2 RB's add to the strategy. We used to play 2 QB's in a 10 team home league ... and I thought it was great ... it added to the value of the QB's and the Strategy of when to pick them ... but some people didn't get three QB's and some people got four or five. Inevitably ... the QB's would run in about the 8th round and the one or two guys with 2 QB's would whine about the lack of QB's and the bye weeks and how their team was at a disadvantage because they only had two QB's and their second QB wasn't even that good ... and I would think ... who held the gun to your head and made you pick ... RB/RB/QB/WR/RB/WR/TE/QB?

Seriously ... I think making people go deeper is more strategy ... and it makes you BACK YOUR PLAYERS UP. This seems to still be an oversight by many in the NFFC. They draft a 6th receiver before they get Edges backup and when Edge goes down they complain they can't compete with one RB. Did someone hold a gun to their head and tell them they needed to draft 6 WR's before they draft their backup RB's. Just one more opinion.

FYI ... the guy with Bruce and DJax is bitchin about someone holding the gun to his head making him draft backup RB's before he got his 5th and 6th receivers

... but choices are what's beautiful about AMERICA! and the NFFC.

UYT

richieprimo · Post by **richieprimo** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:49 am

Originally posted by Bezoar:
These are the key discriminators of fantasy football success and it is not LUCK! Talk to the guys that took Jamal Lewis and Ahman Green, etc. in the 1st round.

Then talk to the guys that took Steve Smith and Joey Galloway after the 7th round.

Anyone who thinks that luck is not a factor has probably never won a fantasy league. If we were all brilliant, we would have drafted Rackers in the 3rd round. He probably has more points than half of the RB's drafted in the 1st three rounds. :rolleyes:

ultimatefs · Post by **ultimatefs** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:21 am

Originally posted by Primo:
quote:Originally posted by Bezoar:
These are the key discriminators of fantasy football success and it is not LUCK! Talk to the guys that took Jamal Lewis and Ahman Green, etc. in the 1st round.

Then talk to the guys that took Steve Smith and Joey Galloway after the 7th round.

Anyone who thinks that luck is not a factor has probably never won a fantasy league. If we were all brilliant, we would have drafted Rackers in the 3rd round. He probably has more points than half of the RB's drafted in the 1st three rounds. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]Yep, and if we're all so great, why are there so many FAAB pickups each week?

Does anyone have 12 of the 18 players they drafted right now?

TradeStar28 · Post by **TradeStar28** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:56 pm

Originally posted by UFS:
quote:Originally posted by Primo:
quote:Originally posted by Bezoar:
These are the key discriminators of fantasy football success and it is not LUCK! Talk to the guys that took Jamal Lewis and Ahman Green, etc. in the 1st round.

Then talk to the guys that took Steve Smith and Joey Galloway after the 7th round.

Anyone who thinks that luck is not a factor has probably never won a fantasy league. If we were all brilliant, we would have drafted Rackers in the 3rd round. He probably has more points than half of the RB's drafted in the 1st three rounds. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]Yep, and if we're all so great, why are there so many FAAB pickups each week?

Does anyone have 12 of the 18 players they drafted right now? [/QUOTE]I have the FIRST 13 of 18 that I drafted.

Dropped J. Wilkins for L. Tynes
Dropped Cincy Defense for Giants Defense
Dropped Peter Warrick for a rotating defense
Dropped JP Losman/ Kyle Boller for different backup QB's to Brees

In rounds 14-18 in NY League 4, the only servicable players drafted, who perform somewhat consistently are E. Manning, D. Bledsoe, H. Miller

The rest of the players selected have been average and below average.

Not much on the late round steals!

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:12 am

Originally posted by UFS:
Does anyone have 12 of the 18 players they drafted right now? I have 12 of 18:

1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/12/13/14

Must explain why the team is #33.

Tomlinson has helped a little, too

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:13 am

I have 14 of 18 on my NFFC magazine team that I drafted in JUNE!

Just goes to show there is NO strategy for controlling injuries, and those who are healthy are doing well. I mean guys like Torry Holt and Hines Ward (who have never missed a game in their careers) are injured this year.

Just part of the luck that goes along with this game!

Bezoar · Post by **Bezoar** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:11 am

I will clarify.

Obviously there is a "luck" factor involved in any fair competition. When I say it is not LUCK I was referring to the initial statement of OP - "Am I in the minority by thinking that the option of allowing the use of a single RB lineup in a 14 team league would make this league MUCH more competitive and eliminate some of the luck factor? "

There is much less luck involved in a properly constructed draft than in free agent pickups. At draft you decide which backups have the greatest potential to help you team. It may be the backup of an injury prone player or a backup on a team with a great "system". It may be the backup of your stud or it may the the marginal starter from another real world team. These are the decision that owners make that help to reduce the luck factor and the owners that dont enter the draft prepared consider it luck.

On the other hand, free agent pickups are often inspired by luck. I had no quality running backs left in a league last year so I took a chance on Nick Goings (that was luck because if I would have had sufficient depth I would have waiting to grab Goings when he became the hot player). Pick ups of Reuben Droughns and Drew Bennett last year were much more of a "luck factor" than drafting Joey Galloway and Steve Smith this year.

So, I stand corrected. Yes luck is involved. I should have said that the draft, with the proper valuation of RBs, lessens the luck factor below a system that allows owners to minimize the "decision points" by fixing draft mistakes with a variable lineup or abundant free agents.

renman · Post by **renman** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:37 am

david...

brilliant post.. i could not agree more... this is a great event... but we need to be very careful in tinkering with something that is already great... discussing change is fine... but it has to be rational...

i can not imagine fantasy football without having to walk that fine line between when to take RB's or WR's and trying to handicap how players will perform to help you value their draft position...

BONGIZMO · Post by **BONGIZMO** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:31 am

I have spent some time reading all of these posts advocating change in the NFFC? I often wonder if some folks just want it for the sake of thinking they were involved in creating the event? The NFFC is great the way it is, it's deep and it rewards those that draft well in my opinion. To reduce the RB requirement as an earlier poster says will 'dumb down' the event in my opinion.

Regarding another question raised in this thread, I still have 14 of my originally drafted players atm.

I think the event, the draft and the management of the league is solid and I hope greg doesn't tinker with it too much to lose what he's created.

Just my .02

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