Add D/K to Flex?

TamuScarecrow · Post by **TamuScarecrow** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:01 am

I would think this concept would be even more interesting for the DC leagues considering the impact injuries play on who wins or loses those leagues.

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:26 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by BillyWaz:
If you TRULY looked at ALL sides of this concept (i.e played "Devil's Advocate" I KNOW you would see this "side of the coin". i see both sides of the coin. i'm merely poking a little further. like i said i'm looking for downside. claiming that folks are unprepared because they may use 2 kickers or defenses doesn't seem to fit [/QUOTE]I just think it evens the playing field more. Kinda like handing everyone the most recent "cheatsheet" or giving everyone the info on last year's stats, etc.

I have done well in FF because I take the extra time to "do my homework". To me, letting a K or D as a flex is just something that evens things out.

Yes, that may sound "fair", but I play this game because I think my preparation and time are what gives me an advantage. Anything that is going to "even the playing field out" takes that away from me.

As I said earlier, there is NOTHING worse than losing to a team who has a kicker or D "go off".

Additionally, defenses and kickers are normally "afterthoughts" in the draft process. Most quality players don't put a lot into their kicker and/or defense rankings, as they are far too unpredictable each year (you can normally get a kicker or defense JUST AS EFFECTIVE on the waiver wire by Week 3!) This just adds a lot more into the "crapshoot" factor IMO.

I will give you it definitely creates more options though!

mikeybok · Post by **mikeybok** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:00 am

I see both sides on this issue. I don't think this is a make or break issue on the rules.

I think this rule needs to be consistant and I think it would effect the DC league the most. I also think the kicker and Defense scoring feels like more of a crap shoot than the rest of it. Which is why I vote against it.

With that said ... any change that would pull the Kickers and Defenses farther up in the draft ... would make the draft more interesting (more trade offs with a third receiver).

Besides ... As a rule ... I am against change in general (like this internet stuff that Al Gore invented ... it's just a passing fad and I just don't need it!).

UYT

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:44 am

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
I have done well in FF because I take the extra time to "do my homework".

I play this game because I think my preparation and time are what gives me an advantage. so what you are saying is that you can't do homework on kickers and defenses?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:46 am

Originally posted by Ugly Yellow Tomatoes:
I don't think this is a make or break issue on the rules. i agree. but i can't wait to see how the "flex" slot plays out this year with injuries AND the condensed bye weeks. my guess is that there will be some very low scores (and low fun for some owners).

[ June 01, 2006, 10:53 AM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:07 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
i can't wait to see how the "flex" slot plays out this year with injuries AND the condensed bye weeks. my guess is that there will be some very low scores (and low fun for some owners). Low scores = low fun? Not necessarily. Wouldn't it be fun to win a couple of 80-75 games? You know, those games you're not "supposed" to win, but somehow win anyway? Right or wrong, it's the wins--blowouts or nailbiters--that dictate who gets the $5K league prize.

That said, yes, it should be interesting to see how it all plays out.

RI WORKHORSE · Post by **RI WORKHORSE** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:12 am

Alright.....I have read enough of this cheap A$$ kicker and defense thing.Gekko are you that scared that people are going to know after this year you are a fake, that you have to try to get kickers and defense in the flex spot to win a league again.Who the hell wants to play extra kickers and defense's that is the funniest thing I have read on these boards so far.

Billy....Right on with all your post on this cheap A$$ matter.

Why don't we focus on adding more strategy and thinking and let the league winner's always go by total points.Like billy stated I like to study and be into football all year long why let the ''DEAD MONEY'' have another easy way to win.

Johnny

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:19 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by BillyWaz:
I have done well in FF because I take the extra time to "do my homework".

I play this game because I think my preparation and time are what gives me an advantage. so what you are saying is that you can't do homework on kickers and defenses? [/QUOTE]Not at all. I can say that I do about 10% the research on kickers and defenses that I do on the other positions.

That is just me, but maybe others do alot more??

How about you Gekko, do you spend countless hours on rating kickers and defenses, or do you just go by footballguys.com's cheatsheet??

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:20 am

Originally posted by SNAKE:
...increasing the roster size to 19 (or 20) is a better route to go ISHO...SNAKE Agree 100% Snake!

Hope your family vacation is fun!