Rob picked Glenn Coffee, RB, SF
HAMMER selects:
Ryan Longwell, K, MIN
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A very slow 2009 draft
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Sabretooth
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A very slow 2009 draft
Jason Elam K
And that brings another month to a close.
This year is all of a sudden going very fast.
And that brings another month to a close.
This year is all of a sudden going very fast.
A very slow 2009 draft
Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
quote:Originally posted by KOTRAX:
YEAH THAT'S A GOOD POINT BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU WOULD BE STRACTING YOUR HEAD TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT POSITION?
VERSUS
A DEFENSE IS THERE NO MATTER WHAT LIKE BILLY SAID. EVERYONE WANTS TO HAVE DEPTH BUT IS DRAFTING A "HANK BASKETT" OR "JASON MCKIE" GOING TO HELP? Baskett and McStiff are late round draft picks. When you take your third defense which I think only offers minimal upgrade in points, you are passing on a player who could potentially have a starting job. [/QUOTE]BUT THE THE KEY WORD IS "POTENTIALLY" FOR EXAMPLE LETS USE THREE CASES FROM LAST YEAR.
K. WARNER
P. MANNING
T. BRADY
NOW CASE 1 WITH WARNER EVERY OWNER WOULD DRAFT LEINART AS WELL DO TO WARNER'S INJURY HISTORY. HOWEVER LEINART ONLY PLAYED IN THE SNOW BOWL IN NEW ENGLAND WHICH IN TURN MADE IT A WASTE OF ROSTER SPACE.
NOW CASE 2 WITH MANNING. DID OWNERS DRAFT SORGI? PROBABLY TO BE SAFE BUT MANNING WAS HIS TYPICAL SELF, INJURY FREE AND IN TURN ONCE AGAIN SORGI IS A WASTE OF SPACE.
NOW CASE 3 WITH BRADY. WHO MIRRORED MANNING AND FAVRE FOR YEARS AS FAR AS INJURY HISTORY. WELL WE ALL KNOW HE WENT DOWN BASICALLY ON THE FIRST PLAY OF THE YEAR.
NOW DRAFTING CASSEL TURNED OUT TO BE A WISE INVESTMENT AND NOT A WASTE OF SPACE BECAUSE HIS POINTS COUNTED FOR YOU DC TEAM AT SOME POINT.
SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT DEPTH IF THE DEPTH DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE POINTS TO YOUR ROSTER DURING THE SEASON THEN IT IS NO GOOD.
[ May 02, 2009, 03:05 AM: Message edited by: KOTRAX ]
quote:Originally posted by KOTRAX:
YEAH THAT'S A GOOD POINT BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU WOULD BE STRACTING YOUR HEAD TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT POSITION?
VERSUS
A DEFENSE IS THERE NO MATTER WHAT LIKE BILLY SAID. EVERYONE WANTS TO HAVE DEPTH BUT IS DRAFTING A "HANK BASKETT" OR "JASON MCKIE" GOING TO HELP? Baskett and McStiff are late round draft picks. When you take your third defense which I think only offers minimal upgrade in points, you are passing on a player who could potentially have a starting job. [/QUOTE]BUT THE THE KEY WORD IS "POTENTIALLY" FOR EXAMPLE LETS USE THREE CASES FROM LAST YEAR.
K. WARNER
P. MANNING
T. BRADY
NOW CASE 1 WITH WARNER EVERY OWNER WOULD DRAFT LEINART AS WELL DO TO WARNER'S INJURY HISTORY. HOWEVER LEINART ONLY PLAYED IN THE SNOW BOWL IN NEW ENGLAND WHICH IN TURN MADE IT A WASTE OF ROSTER SPACE.
NOW CASE 2 WITH MANNING. DID OWNERS DRAFT SORGI? PROBABLY TO BE SAFE BUT MANNING WAS HIS TYPICAL SELF, INJURY FREE AND IN TURN ONCE AGAIN SORGI IS A WASTE OF SPACE.
NOW CASE 3 WITH BRADY. WHO MIRRORED MANNING AND FAVRE FOR YEARS AS FAR AS INJURY HISTORY. WELL WE ALL KNOW HE WENT DOWN BASICALLY ON THE FIRST PLAY OF THE YEAR.
NOW DRAFTING CASSEL TURNED OUT TO BE A WISE INVESTMENT AND NOT A WASTE OF SPACE BECAUSE HIS POINTS COUNTED FOR YOU DC TEAM AT SOME POINT.
SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT DEPTH IF THE DEPTH DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE POINTS TO YOUR ROSTER DURING THE SEASON THEN IT IS NO GOOD.
[ May 02, 2009, 03:05 AM: Message edited by: KOTRAX ]
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A very slow 2009 draft
It's all about risk/reward.
Your third defense offers 20-40 points extra or what ever the numbers is.
A owner with two defenses will have the ability to roster a third or possibility a fourth QB. The QB slot has the least depth on fantasy rosters and most risk of injury. If you have a top QB, you hope that you take a zero from your backup. If the backup plays a couple of weeks, he could scored 20-40 especially if the your other QB is on a bye week.
A Leinart owner had to draft Warner. If he didn't, he missed out on a huge season and 390+ points. If the draft was early in the preseason, Warner was drafted late enough to get both. As the season approached, another team might steal Warner as high upside pick if he got the job.
The Brady injury proves the point even more. You never know who is going to get hurt, but you need to protect your investments. Brady scored 550 points in 2007 and he was drafted in the first or second round in 2008. He was big investment and his insurance policy rewarded a smart player with 330 points. He wasn't Brady, but it might be enough to keep you in the hunt to cash in the league.
The Manning/Brady examples are what most teams do. They will draft a top QB and backup the second QB. With a 26 man roster, it gets very difficult to add too many QBs. But I'll tell you one thing for sure, no one wins if their quarterbacks go down. It the highest scoring position in the NFFC event.
I guess we can look at it like poker. You can play your hand and I can play mine. We will both have our successful years, but will your safe investment (3rd defense) help you win more often than the insurance policy or a high upside player on the bench?
Kape Fear will be back soon so I'll go back to baseball!!
[ May 02, 2009, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: CC's Desperados ]
Your third defense offers 20-40 points extra or what ever the numbers is.
A owner with two defenses will have the ability to roster a third or possibility a fourth QB. The QB slot has the least depth on fantasy rosters and most risk of injury. If you have a top QB, you hope that you take a zero from your backup. If the backup plays a couple of weeks, he could scored 20-40 especially if the your other QB is on a bye week.
A Leinart owner had to draft Warner. If he didn't, he missed out on a huge season and 390+ points. If the draft was early in the preseason, Warner was drafted late enough to get both. As the season approached, another team might steal Warner as high upside pick if he got the job.
The Brady injury proves the point even more. You never know who is going to get hurt, but you need to protect your investments. Brady scored 550 points in 2007 and he was drafted in the first or second round in 2008. He was big investment and his insurance policy rewarded a smart player with 330 points. He wasn't Brady, but it might be enough to keep you in the hunt to cash in the league.
The Manning/Brady examples are what most teams do. They will draft a top QB and backup the second QB. With a 26 man roster, it gets very difficult to add too many QBs. But I'll tell you one thing for sure, no one wins if their quarterbacks go down. It the highest scoring position in the NFFC event.
I guess we can look at it like poker. You can play your hand and I can play mine. We will both have our successful years, but will your safe investment (3rd defense) help you win more often than the insurance policy or a high upside player on the bench?
Kape Fear will be back soon so I'll go back to baseball!!
[ May 02, 2009, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: CC's Desperados ]
A very slow 2009 draft
I'll go back to baseball!!
Why? I enjoy your writeups. Plus now we have a month to kill.
John
Why? I enjoy your writeups. Plus now we have a month to kill.
John
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Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
It's all about risk/reward.
Your third defense offers 20-40 points extra or what ever the numbers is.
A owner with two defenses will have the ability to roster a third or possibility a fourth QB. The QB slot has the least depth on fantasy rosters and most risk of injury. If you have a top QB, you hope that you take a zero from your backup. If the backup plays a couple of weeks, he could scored 20-40 especially if the your other QB is on a bye week.
A Leinart owner had to draft Warner. If he didn't, he missed out on a huge season and 390+ points. If the draft was early in the preseason, Warner was drafted late enough to get both. As the season approached, another team might steal Warner as high upside pick if he got the job.
The Brady injury proves the point even more. You never know who is going to get hurt, but you need to protect your investments. Brady scored 550 points in 2007 and he was drafted in the first or second round in 2008. He was big investment and his insurance policy rewarded a smart player with 330 points. He wasn't Brady, but it might be enough to keep you in the hunt to cash in the league.
The Manning/Brady examples are what most teams do. They will draft a top QB and backup the second QB. With a 26 man roster, it gets very difficult to add too many QBs. But I'll tell you one thing for sure, no one wins if their quarterbacks go down. It the highest scoring position in the NFFC event.
I guess we can look at it like poker. You can play your hand and I can play mine. We will both have our successful years, but will your safe investment (3rd defense) help you win more often than the insurance policy or a high upside player on the bench?
Kape Fear will be back soon so I'll go back to baseball!! This arguement makes perfect sense IF you actually draft a QB or 2. You didn't. Your 2 picks instead of a 2nd defense were a #3 WR on the "high octane" :rolleyes: Dolphins and an unproven rookie who wasn't even in the top 5 at his position on draft day.
I'll keep my defenses thanks!
It's all about risk/reward.
Your third defense offers 20-40 points extra or what ever the numbers is.
A owner with two defenses will have the ability to roster a third or possibility a fourth QB. The QB slot has the least depth on fantasy rosters and most risk of injury. If you have a top QB, you hope that you take a zero from your backup. If the backup plays a couple of weeks, he could scored 20-40 especially if the your other QB is on a bye week.
A Leinart owner had to draft Warner. If he didn't, he missed out on a huge season and 390+ points. If the draft was early in the preseason, Warner was drafted late enough to get both. As the season approached, another team might steal Warner as high upside pick if he got the job.
The Brady injury proves the point even more. You never know who is going to get hurt, but you need to protect your investments. Brady scored 550 points in 2007 and he was drafted in the first or second round in 2008. He was big investment and his insurance policy rewarded a smart player with 330 points. He wasn't Brady, but it might be enough to keep you in the hunt to cash in the league.
The Manning/Brady examples are what most teams do. They will draft a top QB and backup the second QB. With a 26 man roster, it gets very difficult to add too many QBs. But I'll tell you one thing for sure, no one wins if their quarterbacks go down. It the highest scoring position in the NFFC event.
I guess we can look at it like poker. You can play your hand and I can play mine. We will both have our successful years, but will your safe investment (3rd defense) help you win more often than the insurance policy or a high upside player on the bench?
Kape Fear will be back soon so I'll go back to baseball!! This arguement makes perfect sense IF you actually draft a QB or 2. You didn't. Your 2 picks instead of a 2nd defense were a #3 WR on the "high octane" :rolleyes: Dolphins and an unproven rookie who wasn't even in the top 5 at his position on draft day.
I'll keep my defenses thanks!
A very slow 2009 draft
YES YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT SHAWN AS YOU ARE ONE OF THE MOST SUCESSFUL PLAYERS IN FANTASY FOOTBALL HISTORY.
IN USING THE CASES I USED I WAS ASSUMING THAT WARNER WAS PENCILED IN AS THE STARTER. AS WE KNOW THAT DID NOT GET DECIDED UNTIL ACTUALLY AROUND NFFC DRAFT DAY.
HOWEVER IF IT WAS DECIDED IN LETS SAY JUNE LEINART WOULD HAVE WENT OFF THE BOARD QUICKER THAN CASSEL OR SORGI DUE TO WARNER INJURY HISTORY.
HECK IT WILL STILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR AS WELL I BELIEVE BECAUSE OF THE "HORA" OF WARNER GETTING INJURED.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON WHAT PLAYER YOU ARE SACRIFICING FOR THAT THIRD DEFENSE. ITS A VERY TOUGH CALL BECAUSE EVERY CASSEL YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A SORGI, LEINART, VOLEK, FLYNN AND BRUNELL.
IN USING THE CASES I USED I WAS ASSUMING THAT WARNER WAS PENCILED IN AS THE STARTER. AS WE KNOW THAT DID NOT GET DECIDED UNTIL ACTUALLY AROUND NFFC DRAFT DAY.
HOWEVER IF IT WAS DECIDED IN LETS SAY JUNE LEINART WOULD HAVE WENT OFF THE BOARD QUICKER THAN CASSEL OR SORGI DUE TO WARNER INJURY HISTORY.
HECK IT WILL STILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR AS WELL I BELIEVE BECAUSE OF THE "HORA" OF WARNER GETTING INJURED.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON WHAT PLAYER YOU ARE SACRIFICING FOR THAT THIRD DEFENSE. ITS A VERY TOUGH CALL BECAUSE EVERY CASSEL YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A SORGI, LEINART, VOLEK, FLYNN AND BRUNELL.
A very slow 2009 draft
Does Bess and Hicks add up to more than a 2nd def.? Time will tell.
Is having a 3rd Def., better than just two? The answer is a two letter answer.
With the kicker run taking place, there will be a team or two again looking from the outside.
Great League and very knowledgeable players, going about building there teams different. It should be fun all year to see how this plays out.
John
Is having a 3rd Def., better than just two? The answer is a two letter answer.
With the kicker run taking place, there will be a team or two again looking from the outside.
Great League and very knowledgeable players, going about building there teams different. It should be fun all year to see how this plays out.
John
A very slow 2009 draft
Originally posted by Route C:
quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
It's all about risk/reward.
Your third defense offers 20-40 points extra or what ever the numbers is.
A owner with two defenses will have the ability to roster a third or possibility a fourth QB. The QB slot has the least depth on fantasy rosters and most risk of injury. If you have a top QB, you hope that you take a zero from your backup. If the backup plays a couple of weeks, he could scored 20-40 especially if the your other QB is on a bye week.
A Leinart owner had to draft Warner. If he didn't, he missed out on a huge season and 390+ points. If the draft was early in the preseason, Warner was drafted late enough to get both. As the season approached, another team might steal Warner as high upside pick if he got the job.
The Brady injury proves the point even more. You never know who is going to get hurt, but you need to protect your investments. Brady scored 550 points in 2007 and he was drafted in the first or second round in 2008. He was big investment and his insurance policy rewarded a smart player with 330 points. He wasn't Brady, but it might be enough to keep you in the hunt to cash in the league.
The Manning/Brady examples are what most teams do. They will draft a top QB and backup the second QB. With a 26 man roster, it gets very difficult to add too many QBs. But I'll tell you one thing for sure, no one wins if their quarterbacks go down. It the highest scoring position in the NFFC event.
I guess we can look at it like poker. You can play your hand and I can play mine. We will both have our successful years, but will your safe investment (3rd defense) help you win more often than the insurance policy or a high upside player on the bench?
Kape Fear will be back soon so I'll go back to baseball!! This arguement makes perfect sense IF you actually draft a QB or 2. You didn't. Your 2 picks instead of a 2nd defense were a #3 WR on the "high octane" :rolleyes: Dolphins and an unproven rookie who wasn't even in the top 5 at his position on draft day.
I'll keep my defenses thanks! [/QUOTE]After seeing this post Jeff(Kapefear) is not speaking to Shawn. Something to the fact of,'If you were going to stick me with one Def. aleast make better picks'. Boston Globe.
John
quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
It's all about risk/reward.
Your third defense offers 20-40 points extra or what ever the numbers is.
A owner with two defenses will have the ability to roster a third or possibility a fourth QB. The QB slot has the least depth on fantasy rosters and most risk of injury. If you have a top QB, you hope that you take a zero from your backup. If the backup plays a couple of weeks, he could scored 20-40 especially if the your other QB is on a bye week.
A Leinart owner had to draft Warner. If he didn't, he missed out on a huge season and 390+ points. If the draft was early in the preseason, Warner was drafted late enough to get both. As the season approached, another team might steal Warner as high upside pick if he got the job.
The Brady injury proves the point even more. You never know who is going to get hurt, but you need to protect your investments. Brady scored 550 points in 2007 and he was drafted in the first or second round in 2008. He was big investment and his insurance policy rewarded a smart player with 330 points. He wasn't Brady, but it might be enough to keep you in the hunt to cash in the league.
The Manning/Brady examples are what most teams do. They will draft a top QB and backup the second QB. With a 26 man roster, it gets very difficult to add too many QBs. But I'll tell you one thing for sure, no one wins if their quarterbacks go down. It the highest scoring position in the NFFC event.
I guess we can look at it like poker. You can play your hand and I can play mine. We will both have our successful years, but will your safe investment (3rd defense) help you win more often than the insurance policy or a high upside player on the bench?
Kape Fear will be back soon so I'll go back to baseball!! This arguement makes perfect sense IF you actually draft a QB or 2. You didn't. Your 2 picks instead of a 2nd defense were a #3 WR on the "high octane" :rolleyes: Dolphins and an unproven rookie who wasn't even in the top 5 at his position on draft day.
I'll keep my defenses thanks!
[/QUOTE]After seeing this post Jeff(Kapefear) is not speaking to Shawn. Something to the fact of,'If you were going to stick me with one Def. aleast make better picks'. Boston Globe. John
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Sabretooth
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A very slow 2009 draft
I started an MDC draft tonight at 8pm. I think there are about 5 spots left.