Originally posted by BillyWaz:
More people "quitting" because they now have to go against FIVE Samkon Gado's, Reuben Droughns, etc. AND more people frustrated because there is NO ONE in their league who has a shot at one of them is a BIG negative IMO. do you even read what you post! people give up because other teams have talent??? :rolleyes:
people give up because their teams are chit. plain and simple.
[ July 09, 2006, 09:13 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]
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Originally posted by Bezoar:
Shutting owners out of free agents is part of the end game stategy of fantasy football.
no one plays fantasy football to block people. it's simply a byproduct of how free agents are allocated.
Shutting owners out of free agents is part of the end game stategy of fantasy football.
no one plays fantasy football to block people. it's simply a byproduct of how free agents are allocated.
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Originally posted by Ugly Yellow Tomatoes:
Actually my reaction was ... I initially liked the idea. Best of both worlds. you are a wise man. forget all the crap i ever gave you
Actually my reaction was ... I initially liked the idea. Best of both worlds. you are a wise man. forget all the crap i ever gave you
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Originally posted by King of Queens:
this idea comes into complete conflict with the league-based NFFC ideology. yes, that is my master plan...to elminate leagues and have only an overall prize structure.
the WSOP doesn't do table prizes
this idea comes into complete conflict with the league-based NFFC ideology. yes, that is my master plan...to elminate leagues and have only an overall prize structure.
the WSOP doesn't do table prizes
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Why should owners be rewarded for being to slow to pick up Gado's and others of the like? If they couldn't forsee as others did, how can you make this an arguement? It allows for those who were ahead of the curve to be at a disadvantage, giving all others teams a shot at the very same player that could put his team over the top.
Did LJ get picked up last year for week 13?
I understand what you are trying to do and think the idea has some merit, but initially, I feel it rewards those who are slow to see potential and punishes those who can.
If the owner who is early to pickup the good players for cheap allowed to acquire the same player again? They would be entitled to the same UFAAB players as any other owner, right?
I don't think it would fly, although it is quite interesting. Also, a lot of your points do tend to lean toward helping the inadequate owner. Not sure why you want to do this??
Also, if they didn't bid high enough, they should have bid more. Plain and simple. Many leagues have various types of bidding patterns. You have to go with the flow of your league.
Interesting, but just don't fell ya on this one.
Did LJ get picked up last year for week 13?
I understand what you are trying to do and think the idea has some merit, but initially, I feel it rewards those who are slow to see potential and punishes those who can.
If the owner who is early to pickup the good players for cheap allowed to acquire the same player again? They would be entitled to the same UFAAB players as any other owner, right?
I don't think it would fly, although it is quite interesting. Also, a lot of your points do tend to lean toward helping the inadequate owner. Not sure why you want to do this??
Also, if they didn't bid high enough, they should have bid more. Plain and simple. Many leagues have various types of bidding patterns. You have to go with the flow of your league.
Interesting, but just don't fell ya on this one.
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Originally posted by GOD Loves You:
Why should owners be rewarded for being to slow to pick up Gado's and others of the like? If they couldn't forsee as others did, how can you make this an arguement? It allows for those who were ahead of the curve to be at a disadvantage, giving all others teams a shot at the very same player that could put his team over the top. what is the bigger injustice, your scenario or this one...
You had the 2nd highest bid on a player (available in all 20 leagues ), but unfortunately, the owner with the single highest bid in the entire NFFC came from, you guessed it, your league? you bid $150, but lost out to someone bidding $151. all of the other 19 winning bids came in under $75 .
Why should owners be rewarded for being to slow to pick up Gado's and others of the like? If they couldn't forsee as others did, how can you make this an arguement? It allows for those who were ahead of the curve to be at a disadvantage, giving all others teams a shot at the very same player that could put his team over the top. what is the bigger injustice, your scenario or this one...
You had the 2nd highest bid on a player (available in all 20 leagues ), but unfortunately, the owner with the single highest bid in the entire NFFC came from, you guessed it, your league? you bid $150, but lost out to someone bidding $151. all of the other 19 winning bids came in under $75 .
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Originally posted by GOD Loves You:
Also, a lot of your points do tend to lean toward helping the inadequate owner. Not sure why you want to do this??i understand it may seem that way, but they are to level the playing field for the overall title (you know the 100K).
i'm not sold on the idea, although i like it a lot. through the MB and talks with some other fols (offline), i'll see where this takes me.
Also, a lot of your points do tend to lean toward helping the inadequate owner. Not sure why you want to do this??i understand it may seem that way, but they are to level the playing field for the overall title (you know the 100K).
i'm not sold on the idea, although i like it a lot. through the MB and talks with some other fols (offline), i'll see where this takes me.
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Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:
this idea comes into complete conflict with the league-based NFFC ideology. yes, that is my master plan...to elminate leagues and have only an overall prize structure.
the WSOP doesn't do table prizes [/QUOTE]I would advise you to concentrate on eliminating the league structure first. I believe that UFAAB will make a lot more sense to people once they have no choice but to go for the $100,000.
quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:
this idea comes into complete conflict with the league-based NFFC ideology. yes, that is my master plan...to elminate leagues and have only an overall prize structure.
the WSOP doesn't do table prizes [/QUOTE]I would advise you to concentrate on eliminating the league structure first. I believe that UFAAB will make a lot more sense to people once they have no choice but to go for the $100,000.
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Gekko -
Very good concept. Didn't read through the entire thread, but conceptually, you could take it a step further since the same problems it solves for FAAB also apply to the draft ...
... assuming the NFFC had 20 leagues, throw 20 of each NFL player into the pot to be drafted. Then, turn the NFFC draft into one massive blind bidding auction with the top 20 bids among all 280 owners receiving the auctioned player for the price of the 20th highest bid.
Too complicated and time-consuming for a live draft? Maybe, but how about starting with a smaller stakes online draft?
Suppose you get 70 of the most progressive NFFC'ers to particpate, or the equivalent of 5 leagues for, say, $200/pp ... you throw 5 of each NFL player into the mix and run the draft online. It could work similarly to an online auction:
- a player gets nominated
- everyone has 60 seconds to submit a single blind bid
- the winning bidders are revealed and the auction moves on
- prize table could be very attractive for a small entry fee, something like $10,000/$2,000/$1,000
Very good concept. Didn't read through the entire thread, but conceptually, you could take it a step further since the same problems it solves for FAAB also apply to the draft ...
... assuming the NFFC had 20 leagues, throw 20 of each NFL player into the pot to be drafted. Then, turn the NFFC draft into one massive blind bidding auction with the top 20 bids among all 280 owners receiving the auctioned player for the price of the 20th highest bid.
Too complicated and time-consuming for a live draft? Maybe, but how about starting with a smaller stakes online draft?
Suppose you get 70 of the most progressive NFFC'ers to particpate, or the equivalent of 5 leagues for, say, $200/pp ... you throw 5 of each NFL player into the mix and run the draft online. It could work similarly to an online auction:
- a player gets nominated
- everyone has 60 seconds to submit a single blind bid
- the winning bidders are revealed and the auction moves on
- prize table could be very attractive for a small entry fee, something like $10,000/$2,000/$1,000
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So you have a Player Pool of what 10,000 players in a 280 team league? I agree with Gecko it would reward the players with the most skill/time spent especially in free agent bidding. Maybe not a bad thing.
However the real problem with this type of league is in the faulty compairison to the WSOP. In poker tournements of course you ARE NOT playing cards against everyone in the house only against the other persons at your table. There is only 1 deck used per table and in the tourney you only have to beat the players who sit at your table to win the tourney.
The thing that makes poker and fantasy football exciting is the league/table structure that compete directly against your league/tablemates. My goal (and the fun part)is to pick a team to win your league. My experience in the championship round (where many of the teams have the same players)is unless you are in the top 20 after a few weeks it gets a little boring. If the whole league was basically run as the championship round after about 4 weeks half the league would turn into dead money and know it. Might be hard to get those people to come back the next year.
Lastly, unlike poker NO ONE makes a living PLAYING fantasy football. So the alure to play fantasy football is not the same as poker. Why try to make it into something it cannot be.
Gecco, you come up with a lot of good ideas (28team/$250,bidding on draft position ect...) I just don't like this one
[ July 27, 2006, 11:48 PM: Message edited by: Baker Boy ]
However the real problem with this type of league is in the faulty compairison to the WSOP. In poker tournements of course you ARE NOT playing cards against everyone in the house only against the other persons at your table. There is only 1 deck used per table and in the tourney you only have to beat the players who sit at your table to win the tourney.
The thing that makes poker and fantasy football exciting is the league/table structure that compete directly against your league/tablemates. My goal (and the fun part)is to pick a team to win your league. My experience in the championship round (where many of the teams have the same players)is unless you are in the top 20 after a few weeks it gets a little boring. If the whole league was basically run as the championship round after about 4 weeks half the league would turn into dead money and know it. Might be hard to get those people to come back the next year.
Lastly, unlike poker NO ONE makes a living PLAYING fantasy football. So the alure to play fantasy football is not the same as poker. Why try to make it into something it cannot be.
Gecco, you come up with a lot of good ideas (28team/$250,bidding on draft position ect...) I just don't like this one
[ July 27, 2006, 11:48 PM: Message edited by: Baker Boy ]