Draft Champions SUPER_Satellite

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:00 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:
Here is my understanding of the process. If I'm wrong, please let me know:

Each of the 28 teams will submit 14 bids for the 14 draft slots, from "0" to "negative whatever". Bids should be submitted in hundreths of points (say -38.49) to help avoid ties. The 392 (28 x 14) bids will be sorted from lowest to highest (remembering these are negative numbers). The lowest bid will be placed in League A, the second lowest in League B, 3rd lowest in A, 4th lowest in B, etc. until all 28 teams have a draft position and a league. In the event of a tie, including zero point bids, Greg/Tom will determine positioning and league assignment via random allocation. pretty much, except that the bids will not be in negative points. (-1) is greater than (-2) if i remember correctly. let's not make the process more confusin for all involved. bid in positive amounts.

i'll post specific bidding directions in the next couple days.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:09 pm

Originally posted by Captain Hook:
Is each team allowed only one bid, or is it a series of different bids on multiple positions?
ALSO since there are two #1s etc., here is a quick example of what my bids could be (points first and then draft slot second)...
100 points, draft slot #1
90 points, draft slot #2
80 points, draft slot #3
80 points, draft slot #13
60 points, draft slot #12
40 points, draft slot #11
40 points, draft slot #10
32 points, draft slot #4
10 points, draft slot #5
8 points, draft slot #9
8 points, draft slot #8
5 points, draft slot #7
5 points, draft slot #6

Originally posted by Captain Hook:
how is the assignment of which team with #1 is in League A and the other in League B?
owner with highest bid is in draft league A
remaining owner with 2nd highest bid is in draft league B
remaining owner with 3rd highest bid is in draft league B
remaining owner with 4th highest bid is in draft league A
remaining owner with 5th highest bid is in draft league A
remaining owner with 6th highest bid is in draft league B
and so on...

[ July 26, 2006, 07:12 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Appleman · Post by **Appleman** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:26 pm

Who' left from Gekko I?

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:32 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:
Here is my understanding of the process. If I'm wrong, please let me know:

Each of the 28 teams will submit 14 bids for the 14 draft slots, from "0" to "negative whatever". Bids should be submitted in hundreths of points (say -38.49) to help avoid ties. The 392 (28 x 14) bids will be sorted from lowest to highest (remembering these are negative numbers). The lowest bid will be placed in League A, the second lowest in League B, 3rd lowest in A, 4th lowest in B, etc. until all 28 teams have a draft position and a league. In the event of a tie, including zero point bids, Greg/Tom will determine positioning and league assignment via random allocation. pretty much, except that the bids will not be in negative points. (-1) is greater than (-2) if i remember correctly. let's not make the process more confusin for all involved. bid in positive amounts.

i'll post specific bidding directions in the next couple days. [/QUOTE]We're saying the same thing, though differently. I was ranking the numbers like this

-100
-98
-96
-94

which woud be lowest to highest (as I stated), whereas you are ranking the numbers removed as such

100
98
96
94

which would be highest to lowest. Your explanation is just as good.

Besides, what's wrong with a little confusion? That is, as long as you're on the same page as Greg

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:34 pm

Originally posted by Appleman:
Who' left from Gekko I? Not too many! Welcome back to the party...

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:36 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:
We're saying the same thing, though differently. i know what you're saying, but i also know with 28 owners, chit happens with the easiest directions. no need to have them try and remember which negative number is greater.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:37 pm

Please post in this thread (or PM me) if you are 100% certain you want in the league.

Draft Date/Time = Tuesday, Sept 5th at 7pm EST

Signups so far (need 28 total):
1. Gordon Gekko (Mark Srebro)
2. liquidhippo (Greg Morgan)
3. CC's Desperados (Shawn Childs)
4. Red Ryder (Jules McLean)
5. sportsbettingman (Lance Turbes)
6. Follow Me (Mark Moyer)
7. King of Queens (Glenn Schroter)
8. Ugly Yellow Tomatoes (Mike Ferre and Darryl Lechniak)
9. Quahogs (Stephen Jupinka)
10. Route C (Jeff Clampitt)
11. Team Thompson (Don Thompson)
12. UFS (John Zaleski)
13. Eddiejag (Eddie Gillis)
14. 4D (Mike Krucek/Joe DelZenero)
15. Poopy Tooth (Mike Lins)
16. RI WORKHORSE (Johnny Frisella)
17. BigMO (Jon Clift)
18. GOD Loves You (Patrick Welsh)
19. RiFF (Rich Dunn)
20. Bigger MO (Lonny Graves)
21. Captain Hook (Perry Van Hook)
22. Appleman (Michael Ambicki)

ONLY 6 SPOTS LEFT!!

this is gonna be a great league! BIGTIME bragg'n rights and CASH to the winner of this thing. who else wants in?

turn $250 into $3600 by beating 27 other owners. 2nd place pays $1,700 and 3rd place pays $1,000

just an FYI - I'll be posting how to submit your bids to Greg within the next week.

mikeybok · Post by **mikeybok** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:32 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
owner with highest bid is in draft league A
remaining owner with 2nd highest bid is in draft league B
remaining owner with 3rd highest bid is in draft league B
remaining owner with 4th highest bid is in draft league A
remaining owner with 5th highest bid is in draft league A
remaining owner with 6th highest bid is in draft league B
and so on... GG did this on the fly ... Not going to work. (if the second or third highest bid is for the second spot for example).

First simple way.

Assign the highest bid of each position to league one and the second highest bid winner to league 2. Just fill the first league first and the second league second with each bid.

If these are the 12 highest bids of the players for each spot they would be slotted in leagues as follows.

Player A had high bid 100.3 on spot 1 to league 1
Player B had 2nd bid 98.60 on spot 1 to league 2
Player C had high bid 88.31 on spot 2 to league 1
Player D had high bid 87.00 on spot 3 to league 1
Player E had 2nd bid 86.32 on spot 2 to league 2
Player F had 2nd bid 85.81 on spot 3 to league 2
Player G had high bid 61.32 on spot 5 to league 1
Player H had high bid 60.44 on spot 4 to league 1
Player I had 2nd bid 58.11 on spot 4 to league 2
Player J had 2nd bid 58.00 on spot 5 to league 2
Player K had high bid 40.10 on spot 6 to league 1
Player L had 2nd bid 40.09 on spot 6 to league 2
... and so on

Second less simple way for Greg but not too bad.

Assign the highest bid of each odd position to league one and the highest bid of each even position to league two. Fill the first league first on odd positions and the second league first on even positions (the only plus to this method as it will balance the handicap out in each league ... although I personally don't think it's that important ... it may be perceived as an inequity ... so I would do it this way if it was up to me and clear to Greg).

Player A had high bid 100.3 on spot 1 to league 1
Player B had 2nd bid 98.60 on spot 1 to league 2
Player C had high bid 88.31 on spot 2 to league 2
Player D had high bid 87.00 on spot 3 to league 1
Player E had 2nd bid 86.32 on spot 2 to league 1
Player F had 2nd bid 85.81 on spot 3 to league 2
Player G had high bid 61.32 on spot 5 to league 1
Player H had high bid 60.44 on spot 4 to league 2
Player I had 2nd bid 58.11 on spot 4 to league 1
Player J had 2nd bid 58.00 on spot 5 to league 2
Player K had high bid 40.10 on spot 6 to league 2
Player L had 2nd bid 40.09 on spot 6 to league 1

Gekko and Greg need to pick one of these two methods and let us know which one.

[ July 26, 2006, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: Ugly Yellow Tomatoes ]

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:52 pm

Problem here is order of operations. In your example, Player J had the high bid for spot 5 (58), so he wins that spot. What if Player J bid 75 for spot 8? Does he still have to take spot 5?

You really have to take all 392 bids and rank them 1 to 392. Highest bid gets that spot in League A, next highest bid (assuming this player is still in the running) gets that spot in League B, next highest bid goes to either B or A (depending on whether you want to go A-B-A-B-A-B or A-B-B-A-A-B).

mikeybok · Post by **mikeybok** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:06 pm

Draft bid grid using the second method and 8 players bids all top 8 bidders for this example

player --A-- --B-- --C-- --D-- --E-- --F-- --G-- --H--
spot 1 90.91 82.00 81.88 99.92 60.00 76.12 90.90 71.33
spot 2 89.06 65.00 70.89 80.91 59.00 73.01 70.87 70.88
spot 3 79.06 64.99 75.00 82.11 58.00 63.11 64.98 55.33
spot 4 79.06 70.00 55.88 70.91 57.00 61.12 60.22 54.22

Player D had high bid 99.92 on spot 1 to league 1
Player A had 2nd bid 90.91 on spot 1 to league 2
Player C had high bid 75.00 on spot 3 to league 1
Player F had high bid 73.01 on spot 2 to league 2
Player H had 2nd bid 70.88 on spot 2 to league 1
Player B had 2nd bid 64.99 on spot 3 to league 2
Player G had high bid 60.22 on spot 4 to league 2
Player H had high bid 57.00 on spot 4 to league 1

I hope this helps.