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Post by RedRyder » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:54 pm

Originally posted by RiFF:
quote:Originally posted by Big MO:
Yep. League 2, Pick 11. Flying out Friday and then back on the 6:00 a.m. flight on Sunday morning. I get back to KC just in time to make some last minute line-up decisions and watch the games. Jon and Jules, good luck this weekend in the WCOFF draft. [/QUOTE]Thank you!
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Post by gomizzouman » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:45 pm

Thanks Rich!
It takes a great person to be truly humble, and a humble person to be truly great.

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Post by Hard heads » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:28 pm

Hey guys late night local draft.
Jon is correct. I wondered how when looking at my KDS I got my 14th choice, #9 when Greg told me I was picked 13th out of the hat. He stated my KDS was 1-14, which is wasn't so I gave him my username and passowrd to verify and come to find out there were two log ins under Craig Williams and they had used one that was inactive. I agreed to abide by whatever ruling they offered as I was ok either way, neither were a top choice. I just wanted it to be right and fair. As it ended up Jon had 10 higher then 9 and me vice versa so we both technically got our preferred choice. I was hoping for FWP and was kicking myself thinking Jon would nab him 9, so thanks Jon, I forgot you asked me to leave you Wayne. LOL I asked Greg if he realized it hadn't been updated on the e-mail or thread on the boards and he was in Vegas at the time so it never got updated I guess. Good Luck all and damn I still am pissed we took Moss over Edwards! God I hope that mess of a player decides to show some heart once again.

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Post by RiFF » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:30 am

Originally posted by Hard heads:
I still am pissed we took Moss over Edwards! Craig, personally I believe you made the correct decision!! :D By the way, Jon and Craig thanks for the explanation. I thought I recalled who drafted which team, but when I compared the rosters to the names on the draft list it didn't match up.

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Post by Hard heads » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:08 pm

Yeah Rich, I hope you enjoy BEdwards you dirty rat! :D
Good luck again everyone!

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Post by kjduke » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:11 am

Pre-season LV2 assessment. Time to kill waiting for Sunday. Here's how I see LV2 playing out based on starting lineups, upside players and positional depth … comments and trash talk welcome ... :D

First, The FAVORITES:

Zefurs, slot 1:
* Romo, Harrington/ Pennington
* LT could be a TD better than the rest of the lge this yr
* Ahman underrated RB2
* Norwood and K Jones depth/ upside later in the yr
* Housh solid WR1, Branch underrated WR2
* I Bruce, J Horn and James Jones WR3/ flex, could be hit or miss each week here
* TE possibly weak, Crumpler injury risk and D Martin unknown in a new offense
* OAK and DEN defense a solid 1-2 punch
Outlook: If any team could run away with it in a tight league (unlikely), it would be the Zefurs solely based on the LT factor.

KLN Football, slot 2:
* Hasselbeck/ A Smith
* S Jackson and B Jacobs one of the better starting RB tandems
* Adrian Peterson flex/upside potential
* L Coles steady, occasionally explosive Calvin Johnson and V Jackson
* D Bennett depth, possibly valuable with an injury
* Daniels nice late TE, no backup
* IND defense, surprisingly good
Outlook: Has the lge’s top two rookies in Peterson and C Johnson, they’ll be critical in how far KLN goes.

Lucky 13, slot 13:
* Cutler/ Grossman/ Garcia
* Maroney, R Brown, J Lewis, nice to have three starting RBs
* Chad Johnson, looks like the #1 WR
* Berrian, Curtis, very solid at WR2/3
* Cooley, as good as any after Gates
* PIT defense, probably avg, maybe a little better
Outlook: Lucky should be good week in, week out, solid balanced team all around.

Hard Heads, slot 10:
* V Young/ Delhomme, nothing spectacular here, but some good matchups
* Willie Parker, consistent RB1 production
* F Taylor, a decent RB2 because of strong JAK running gm
* B Jackson/ C Brown/ C Henry, unlikely any will be a reliable feature back, but expect a few good games here and there
* R Wayne, Colston, a pair of WR1’s on good offensive teams
* R Moss, probably inconsistent, but expect a few big games
* P Crayton, we have a lottery winner for week 1
* Shockey, right there in the close second tier after Gates
* Panthers defense, probably overrated, expect lge avg here
Outlook: Hard Heads should get off to a fast start with B Jackson and Crayton starting the first few games, their role as the season goes on will be an upside/downside swing factor.

Big Mo, slot 9:
* Bulger, Schaub
* Rudi Johnson, as predictable as they come
* RB2/flex Tatum Bell, V Morency, risky combo; could work out perfectly with Bell starting early and Morency taking over in GB around the time K Jones gets back for DET
* Roy Williams, J Walker, Cotchery, S Holmes, formidable WR1-3 and flex!
* Jacoby Jones, even more upside at WR
* LJ Smith, E Johnson, solid at TE with Johnson injury backup
* Packers D, expect lots of TO’s, same as last yr
Outlook: Loaded with clearly the best WR group in the lge, if Big Mo’s RB2 works out ok, this should be a consistently high-scoring team.

Next post, I’ll review the Contenders.

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Post by kjduke » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:10 am

Second tier, the Contenders:

Phin City Madness, slot 6:
* Brees/ Culpepper
* S Alexander, any chance he can repeat his TD season?
* RB2/flex D Foster/ L Betts, both are likely solid because of good running games, but limited as RBBC backs, a lot of injury upside though
* Another pair of WR1’s in A Johnson and L Evans
* Hackett, B Jones, T Williamson, etc, many to choose from at WR3, none look great but quantity gives chance for good matchups
* Witten, underrated and could get more looks with Glenn out
* Dallas Defense, very good second-tier D
Outlook: Phin City, not a lot of upside except for the pair of RB2’s, but a solid team that should be in every game.

Desert Fog, slot 12:
* Roethlisberger, T Green, Big Ben better stay healthy
* Caddy, upside pick if Tampa can get it’s offense working this yr
* J Jones/ D Rhodes, RB2 a little weak relying on RBBC
* M Turner/ B Leaonard, big injury upside here
* S Smith/car, T Owens, most-feared 1-2 punch at WR
* B Edwards, very good for a WR3
* C Henry, upside flex WR for the second half
* Winslow, no backup
* JAK defense, probably a little above avg
Outlook: Desert Fog’s starting RB’s look below avg, but has two big injury-replacement upside backs. Starting WRs very strong. Depth a concern at QB and TE. May start slow, but could be very dangerous in the back half of the season.

Mean Machine, slot 8:
* C Palmer/ E Manning, good combo
* R Bush, could be contained now and then, but explosive even in an RBBC
* Portis, very good RB2 if/when he’s healthy
* W Dunn, not bad as a flex/backup
* H Ward, M Clayton, relaible possession receivers
* D Jackson, will have some big games if he stays on the field
* B Watson, decent starting TE
* MIA defense, solid 2nd-tier D
* Vinatieri, a top kicker but always a waste as the top kicker off the board
Outlook: A lot of injury risk for Mean Machine with Portis and D Jackson, but a very good team every week those two are on the field.

Pimpin Trigger, slot 3:
* Kitna/ J Campbell, upside from both of these QBs
* F Gore
* T Jones/ L Washington, a decent RB2 and flex when both healthy, a strong RB2 if one of them is not
* Selvin Young, upside here as DEN’s #2
* Fitzgerald, Driver, solid top 2
* D Henderson/ Welker, again solid for WR3 and flex
* V Davis, might not fully live up for hype this season, but still a top-10 TE
* Vikings D, should be at least avg scoring D
Outlook: It’s the jockey riding Trigger that scares me most. Starting line-up doesn’t look among the strongest, but depth, upside players and team management put Trigger in contention.

Team Prosser, slot 7:
* McNabb, could challenge Peyton for top QB
* Westbrook, Jones-Drew, tough pass-catching combo would be lethal in PPR lge
* Deuce, reliable RB3/flex
* B Marshall, good upside, but not good to rely on as #1 WR
* Curry/ Porter, not a strong WR2/3 tandem
* Muhammad/ Jarrett/ Bowe, decent depth trying to make up for weak starters
* A Gates, will be the #1 TE as usual, but a lot of tough matchups suggests he’ll disappoint with minimal separation from tier-2 TE’s
* Bears Defense, expect #1 ranking this season
Outlook: Prosser very strong everywhere but WR. If WR depth or w/w comes through with some upside, could be in contention.

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Post by kjduke » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:40 am

the Longshots:

Vicodins, slot 5:
* Rivers/ McNair
* Addai, could very well be #3 overall this season
* E James, reliable fantasy scorer, but limited TDs means not much upside
* M Barber, very good RB3/flex
* Plaxico/ R Brown, solid WR2-types
* G Jennings/ M Jones, WR3 could be a weak spot
* McMichael/ H Miller, expect TE production well below avg
* PHL defense
Outlook: Vicodins lack of upside players and weak TE scoring make them unlikely challengers for the title.

Noverdamuses, slot 11:
* P Manning/ Favre, big scoring at QB, but is it worth the price?
* L Jordan, he might be solid, or a complete disaster as RB1
* L White/ C Taylor, limited upside as either are at best an RBBC
* J Chatman/ Shipp, decent injury upside here
* M Harrison/ A Boldin, good WR1-2
* Galloway/ Furrey, should be ok at WR3 and flex most weeks
* Z Miller/ J Stevens, likely below avg TE but a chance
* NE defense, probably overrated but still solid tier-2 D
Outlook: Noverdamuses could be solid if Jordan and L White emerge as feature backs, but very risky as RB1&2. More likely that one or both disappoint, which makes this team a longshot to stay in the race.

Keikoan, slot 4:
* Brady/ Garrard
* L Johnson, probably a modest disappointment but still a very good RB1
* M Lynch, mediocre RB2
* D’ Williams, decent flex with upside for strong CAR running game
* T Holt, not 100%, risky WR1
* T Glenn, maybe gone for the season, if not lowered expectations
* D Mason/ Jurevicius/ Wilford, mediocre group here for WR3 and flex, even worse with Glenn out as at least two will be needed as starters for now
* T Gonzalez/ Olsen, solid here
* BAL defense and SD defense, should be highest scoring team at D over the course of the season with this combo
Outlook: Expect Keikoan’s RBs to disappoint somewhat, and WR depth was hurt by taking two top D’s even before Glenn went down. WR looks like a disaster here, a definite longshot.

gigglin marlin, slot 14:
* Leinart/ Losman, Leinart has the receivers if they end up throwing the ball enough
* T Henry, underrated, should easily make the top 10
* C Benson, Bears will run the ball but not a lot of RB-catches and the jury is still out on Benson
* McGahee, very good as RB3/flex
* S Moss/ Chambers/ Stallworth, solid WR2-3 types, but lacking a #1
* D Williams/ Battle/ Northcutt, mediocre backup/flex options
* T Heap/ Graham, good TE combo
* DET/ NYG defense, below avg scoring here
Outlook: Don’t see much upside here, if all goes right could be solid but I can’t see how the gigglin' marlin's makes it into the top ranks.

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Post by RiFF » Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:54 pm

Team 1 Zefurs: 2:1 to cash; 4:1 to win. HUGE mistake not backing up LT. Weak TE.

Team 2 KLN: 7:1 to cash; 18:1 to win. Lacks a #1 and a #2 WR. Weak TE.

Team 3 P Tiger: 3:1 to cash 7:1 to win. Solid throughout; not much upside.

Team 4 Keikoan: 5:1 to cash, 13:1 to win. Lacks depth at WR. Solid RB, QB, TE, D.

Team 5 Vicodins: 10:1 to cash; 28:1 to win. Solid RB's; Marginal WR's, weak TE.

Team 6 Phin City: 8:1 to cash; 25:1 to win. No real strengths; weakness at WR 3, flex, and depth.

Team 7 Prosser: 7:1 to cash; 22:1`to win. Solid RB's, QB, TE and D. NO Wr's.

Team 8 Mean Machine: 5:1 to cash; 16:1 to win. Competitive with little upside.

Team 9 Big Mo: 7:1 to cash 18:1 to win. Marginal RB's, good WR's, weak TE. Some upside.

Team 10 Hard Heads: 4:1 to cash; 10:1 to win. Solid core, minimal upside.

Team 11 Noverdamuses: 10:1 to cash; 25:1 to win. WEAK RB's, solid QB & WR's 1&2. Weak TE. Little upside.

Team 12: Desert Fog: 7:2 to cash; 8:1 to win. Strong WR's & TE. Marginal RB's. Good upside.

Team 13: Luck 13: 4:1to cash; 9:1 to win. Solid team; lacks depth and upside.

Team 14 Gigglin Marlin: 8:1 to cash; 20:1 to win. Seems to have drafted to "compete" not to win. OK everywhere but not strong anywhere.

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Post by kjduke » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:42 pm

Originally posted by RiFF:
Team 1 Zefurs: 2:1 to cash; 4:1 to win. HUGE mistake not backing up LT. Weak TE.

Well if the "RIFF" team hadn't taken the cuff in the 8th round, I would've at the next turn. ;)

Didn't think he'd make it back, but at the 7/8 turn I had to take a WR3, and K Jones was just too much value/upside to pass up. Came down to the decision to play it safe or go for the potentially killer team. We need some Saturday NFL games, I'm ready for some action already!

[ September 08, 2007, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

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