Punt Return/Kick Return TDs

[BillyWaz]

Originally posted by Sandman62:
Because on the pass play, the QB and the WR did two different acts. The kick returner did one act while he was on special teams.
Mike,

This makes no sense to me.

If you are going to argue that the QB and WR are both doing "different acts", you could easily argue that the returner is RUNNING WITH THE BALL and special teams are BLOCKING for him.

The fact is when you look at the scoring leaders in REAL football, QB's are nowhere to be found unless they RUN for TD's ala Cam.

However, we "piggy back" on WR's/TE's/RB's, etc. to get them "fantasy points" to make them valuable.

Why can we not make some of these kick returners more valuable by giving them 6 points???

After all (and I totally agree with this), there is NOTHING good that can come out of my player returning a punt UNLESS I also own their defense.

It's not a deal breaker, but I think we should return kick and punt returners 6 pts for a TD.

[BillyWaz]

Originally posted by Sandman62:
You didn't have "the player" because you drafted him as an offensive player.

We went through this whole mess a few years ago when Eddie Royal scored two special teams TDs. How many people are starting him the last few years in their fantasy lineups?

Seriously, this really does seem to be limited to Devin Hester, as he's the only one whose value is boosted much. The rest are pretty darned random. Dez Bryant, DeSean Jackson, Percy Harvin, Wes Welker, etc. ALL who return punts/kickoffs.

They return one for a TD and we get nothing, however if they get hurt.....tough ****???

Doesn't seem right to me.

[ February 14, 2012, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: BillyWaz ]

[Sandman62]

Except even good returners like them DON'T score much. I already detailed this. We're realistically talking about 3 or 4 players per year getting a marginal boost from ST TDs. And the fact that even most of those considered "good" at this won't score most years only amplifies the increase in random luck. I mean, who is better at returns - Welker and Dez, or TEN WR Marc Mariani? If some desperate fantasy team has to start Mariani and it happens to be the one week that nobody WR scores a punt return TD, I'd hate to see someone lose a game over such an unpredictable, infrequent occurrence, where even many of the very best seldom or never score that way.

[Sandman62]

Now, if you want to consider removing the ST from DST and eliminate that luck factor completely, I'm all ears??? And with that approach, I'd have no problem with awarding individual players for special teams TDs.

[bockman1]

Thats what I was trying to propose. Give the player who scores the points and just have a defense and the scoring based on points allowed only and get rid of the fumbles int ect. To me its like giving a point for every pass attempt or each carry or every target for WR. Simplify it and base it on points allowed.