Why the NFFC & NFBC is speciall...

Ted's Cracked Head · Post by **Ted's Cracked Head** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:59 pm

Call me crazy but I would rather draft before the season starts.

I would rather this event take place when it does than over the following weekend.

I know that is easy for me to say because I live in a host city and do not have to travel.

I understand how some players may want all of their events to take place over the same weekend so they only have to travel one time. I get that and would understand a change to meet the wishes of the majority.

If the NFFC changed their draft weekend they could offer another 4 draft dates for their online challenge over the labor day weekend. Could be a smart business move?

Moving the draft date and competing directly with the other challenges may be good for the player?

philpo · Post by **philpo** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:57 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:
Ryan,
What about moving the event to the weekend directly after the Thursday game? Why not add a 2nd draft date on the following Saturday it will allow for more flexibility if one weekend date does not work for you and allow you to draft more than one Main Event team.

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:46 am

I don't care if the live draft weekend is moved one week up or not. However, I don't want to see some guys have multiple teams in the main event. That is one of the things I love about the NFBC and NFFC main, you have one shot, one team and that's it. I understand the online championships are different and that's fine but I like the fact that the main event limits you to ONE chance.

RyanHouston · Post by **RyanHouston** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:57 am

As many of these "other" contests have found out -- the pool of guys who want to play multiple teams far exceeds the # of guys who want ONE chance.

Our goal moving forward is to allow players to have multiple entries into the NFFC Classic.

As it is now -- you can have multiple online teams in the Online Championship and I've never fully understood why I should only be allowed to have one team in the Classic if I wanted 8.

Just a thought --- would appreciate everyone's feedback.

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:19 am

Originally posted by Ryan E. Houston:
As many of these "other" contests have found out -- the pool of guys who want to play multiple teams far exceeds the # of guys who want ONE chance.

Our goal moving forward is to allow players to have multiple entries into the NFFC Classic.

As it is now -- you can have multiple online teams in the Online Championship and I've never fully understood why I should only be allowed to have one team in the Classic if I wanted 8.

Just a thought --- would appreciate everyone's feedback. Ryan,

The big negative I see is that ponying up $350 drafting over a 4 week period is acceptable, but ponying up $1,300-$1,400 and even having just ONE week separating (especially if one is before the Thursday game, and one is after....which I imagine it would be) makes it REAL dicey.

All that would happen is for someone to get a "perceived" or "actual" (getting mega BANKED points because of the Thursday game) advantage and win it all, and your Labor Day event (which the NFFC OWNS) would be completely destroyed.

Don't mess with Labor Day weekend, just market it better (which I know you can), and everything will be fine.

Just my thoughts.

[ September 26, 2009, 01:23 PM: Message edited by: BillyWaz ]

KOTRAX · Post by **KOTRAX** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:29 am

I AGREE WITH BILLY. I THE NFFC HAS BEEN A GREAT EVENT FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

TAMPERING WITH THE DRAFT I THINK WOULD DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD.

I AM EXCITED TO SEE WHAT ANNOUNCEMENT THAT ARE FORTHCOMING FOR NEXT YEAR.

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:44 am

Just looking at the title of the thread "What makes the NFFC/NFBC special", it is the comraderie of players who have become friends and known each other since 2004.

If you break this into two separate weekends, you completely lose that.

Greg once said he didn't want to become a 900 team giant (AKA WCOFF), but just wanted to run the best contest with good odds (1 in 300 as opposed to 1 in 900 for the grand prize). I hope he still feels the same way.

I understand that the NFFC/NFBC wants to grow, but at what cost??? The NFFC/NFBC are so special because there are manageable numbers in each. Greg and Tom are OUTSTANDING at returning phone calls/e-mails, etc. I personally think that too may suffer if these events become too big.

I'm just REALLY against the same prize pool drafting over two separate weekends with that much $$$ on the line. And ESPECIALLY all the changes that happen in that week (cuts, Thursday game, more injuries, etc.)

Run a kick ass online event over 2-3 weeks, and you can get 1,000. Trying to do the same thing for a main event seems like a recipe for disaster down the road.

[ September 26, 2009, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: BillyWaz ]

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:47 am

I'd have to agree with Billy & Ormond here.

I understand the desire to explore multiple draft options and registrations for the players from an operator standpoint. You're looking to maximize potential signups and tapping your loyal base for a 2nd team seems like a pretty easy and cost efficient way to achieve this.

However, though many of your competitors achieve this by allowing multiple signups to the same contest, you've already achieved this in a more consumer friendly way with your Live Same Day Doubleheader.

I believe allowing multiple dates & registrations to the Classic would mean the end of the Primetime. I also believe that if the consideration is a multi-weekend Main Event, as Billy alluded to, it would not have the results you are looking for. Currently Labor Day weekend belongs to the NFFC, noone is challenging you in that time period. I wouldn't understand the desire to go head to head with your competitors on the following weekend. You'd be taking on both the WCOFF and the FFPC (both who have very loyal bases as does this contest). I see that kind of move being detrimental to all three contests.

Right now you have a great contest with an unbelievably loyal base. Improve on the contest, but keep the changes within the parameters of what makes it special.

Glenn

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:57 am

I also wouldn't agree with the assertion that MANY teams want multiple entries.

WCOFF only had 1/3 of their entrants take a 2nd team. However, they also lost 1/3 of their signups from last year. Reading their boards, numerous players were upset and left WCOFF because they felt that those teams that had multiple entries would have a competitive advantage that they couldn't afford.

Remember, although the WCOFF allowed customers to take a 2nd team this year, their overall signups did not meet last year's total.

I myself did take a 2nd WCOFF team this year, but only because they discounted that team by nearly 40%, making the value something that couldn't be ignored from a consumer/participant standpoint. Are you willing to give that large a discount for a 2nd entry? If so, I can't see how that is really helping the bottom line I know you're trying to achieve with this move.

Again, look at WCOFF's example....
1/3 of the signups take a 2nd team.
1/3 fewer overall participants from last year.
Overall, nearly the same amount of teams, but 1/3 of them at a deep discount.
Result.....less profit.

Glenn

[ September 26, 2009, 02:00 PM: Message edited by: Glenneration X ]