Idea's to improve the NFFC experience - for little expense.

[TamuScarecrow]

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE dead money in my league. But with a non-vocal draft, I can have the dead money and the players he doesn't pick if I so choose because he doesn't hear them being hollered out in 8 other drafts. Call it "having your cake and eating it too" syndrome.

Do I love to socialize, yes, but not at draft time. Bottom line is I want a nice, peaceful draft where no one else in the room knows what is going on at my draft except at the break. Can I handle bedlam, sure, as I have gone to the Championship Round 3 of the last 4 years. Would I PREFER bedlam if there was a quieter option, no. Will I enter the Online Championship because it offers peace and quiet, and privacy, you bet, and with multiple teams.

[Ted's Cracked Head]

To be honest, food and drink do nothing for me at the draft.....same with the eye candy provided at the WCOFF....the stickers girls are a waste of money if you ask me. I know some guys "get off" on that, but I'm there to draft and socialize, not see girls paid to smile. Some of us don't need girls provided for us, we can get them ourselves! When you have two events that span 9 hours, food and drink is a good idea.

If you want to create buzz for these live events, just like in any other business, sex sells. Is it necessary? No, but it is an effective marketing ploy. Nothing more than that.

If they announced the Dallas Cheerleaders were joining the draft in Dallas you would get press and signups as they are a draw.

[TamuScarecrow]

If they announced the Dallas Cheerleaders were joining the draft in Dallas you would get press and signups as they are a draw.I think I already stated, Rob, I am waiting for the details on Dallas before choosing my draft location. You hit the nail on the head here.

[mikeybok]

Originally posted by Tamuscarecrow:
Call it "having your cake and eating it too" syndrome. I like cake!

I actually like a noisy draft with laughing, taunting friends, making jokes ... as long as it doesn't slow the draft down too much and it is tasteful and is respectful of others ... is perfect.

Bottom line is ... it's about having fun. If the loud guys (not usually me) can have their fun and not interfere with the guys who want to be quiet and focus on the draft. All is good.

As far as cute girls go, I only like the ones who show up for nothing. This is not where I want Greg/Tom to spend my money either. If someone wants that ... You can ask Patrick to blow up the picture on his fridge and hang it somewhere in the draft room!

Mike

[TamuScarecrow]

I actually like a noisy draft with laughing, taunting friends, making jokes ... as long as it doesn't slow the draft down too much and it is tasteful and is respectful of others ... is perfect.The term "nice, peaceful draft" means I don't want the moderators hollering out draft picks. I really don't care to hear your pick in the 8th round 3 leagues away. I will probably laugh and say to Gerard, "I hope that dead money over there trying to figure out what to do takes that player".

As for the fun part, you know me better than that. I will probably be one of the first participants in laughing, taunting friends, and making jokes especially at the break when I see who you have picked in the first 10 rounds, not having heard it hollered out by a moderator who really wanted to laugh, taunt friends, and crack jokes as he's putting up the stickers.

[renman]

Originally posted by Tamuscarecrow:
True, Big Mike, there are many angles to this both positive and negative. The lost guy searching like mad in the mid to late rounds and hears a name in the draft next door could be stealing a player or two from one of the teams drafting ahead of me. But it seems this happens in the league I'm drafting in EVERY year. True, that guy was dead money, but it doesn't change the fact 8-10 leagues are shouting out draft picks to everybody in the room. Either of my suggestions would alleviate that. I am definately with you on this one. Is it a MAJOR issue that would stop me from participating? No. But this isn't about if the unprepared guy who doesn't know what to do in round 10 and picks someone based on hearing a player called out from the next draft... of course that team is likely to struggle. It is about how that can steal a player a prepared owner is hoping or expecting to fall to them. I think most serious fantasy players simply don't want anything else to influence the picks other than the owners picking.

I also understand that logistically it may not be fixable or it may lead to a draft taking 30 minutes longer and that may bother some people. I will say that a quiet draft room would make it feel more intense and professional. But that is just me.

We all fancy ourselves hard core serious fantasy football players. I am not here for food. I am not here to drink. I am not here to look at chicks. As a manwhore, I too can handle that on my own. We all wait an entire year to get to the big draft day. We put a good bit of time into preparing for this event. How we perform at this event can largely impact how much fun we have through the fall and into the winter and holidays. I have as much fun as anyone.. I can laugh and joke as much as anyone... but for this 4 hour event, it is all about the football for me. The more it is about football and the more "professional" it is and feels, the more I like it. I would love to see the day that the NFFC stands apart from other drafts because it is MORE professional and seemingly more serious and intense.

If I want to be around a bunch of goons downing beer and screaming out names at the draft with commentary and taunts after each pick... I can stay in local leagues or go to a lower level event. You wont find someone who is more "pro" NFFC than me. To me, the NFFC has always been better than that. However, maybe it could separate itself even further.

Just one mans opinion.

[ June 08, 2010, 10:47 PM: Message edited by: Renman ]

[TamuScarecrow]

I hear you, RENMAN. Hearing 8 Roger Goodell replicas on draft day isn't something I need to finalize my draft day experience. I am kind of looking forward to the food and drink and agree with Rob that for a 9-hour event this is a must.

I also hear Big Mike as the fun and comradarie is why I love the live draft but I'll be the first to tell you how much I enjoy the solitude of online drafting for the magazine mocks and satellite leagues. I'm only speculating here because last year's stats aren't up on the new website yet but I remember seeing lots of online teams in the top 30 in point total last year and am wondering if having that extra one or two players falling to them that are being scooped up by the dead money hearing names in live drafts didn't make a difference.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Originally posted by Tamuscarecrow:
I hear you, RENMAN. Hearing 8 Roger Goodell replicas on draft day isn't something I need to finalize my draft day experience. I am kind of looking forward to the food and drink and agree with Rob that for a 9-hour event this is a must.

I also hear Big Mike as the fun and comradarie is why I love the live draft but I'll be the first to tell you how much I enjoy the solitude of online drafting for the magazine mocks and satellite leagues. I'm only speculating here because last year's stats aren't up on the new website yet but I remember seeing lots of online teams in the top 30 in point total last year and am wondering if having that extra one or two players falling to them that are being scooped up by the dead money hearing names in live drafts didn't make a difference. All I will say Rick is that any owner who needs to hear the name of someone being picked in other drafts to do well is dead meat in my book. I watch a lot of these drafts and I just don't see folks constantly looking around or having their co-manager keep an ear out for picks of other drafts. The focus just isn't there; it's on their own draft boards.

Names fly off once you hear them somewhere else because we start at the same time and we are at the same points in the draft. As for online, I think it's harder to sneak someone through online because the ADP list or default list of every available player is right there staring you in the face. It's tough to sneak anyone through online.

Having seven or eight private drafts in New York and Las Vegas in private rooms for the main events doesn't sound like fun, but I do get your point. We'll tell our facilitators to be loud but not too loud and not give any future picks away. But I hope folks love the wide open style of drafting despite that problem.

[King of Queens]

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
All I will say Rick is that any owner who needs to hear the name of someone being picked in other drafts to do well is dead meat in my book. I watch a lot of these drafts and I just don't see folks constantly looking around or having their co-manager keep an ear out for picks of other drafts. The focus just isn't there; it's on their own draft boards.Paging Mr. Childs. Mr. Childs, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Originally posted by King of Queens:
quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
All I will say Rick is that any owner who needs to hear the name of someone being picked in other drafts to do well is dead meat in my book. I watch a lot of these drafts and I just don't see folks constantly looking around or having their co-manager keep an ear out for picks of other drafts. The focus just isn't there; it's on their own draft boards.Paging Mr. Childs. Mr. Childs, please pick up the white courtesy phone. [/QUOTE]If you're now asking for seat belts, then that would work with Childs. But he's not HEARING other picks across the room, he's actually WALKING around the room. He can't sit still, so request seat belts if you want to solve this problem.