Early Season NFFC Draft Results
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Fitzgerald has the name and all the talent but to me not much upside. His Quarterbacking might not be much better than Gabbert. Kolb and Skelton are a major buzz kill for Fitz. Is he worth much more than the WRs ranked 20-25? Probably not unless Kolb progresses. Gronkowski seems a lot more valuable at that point. Stevie Johnson or Antonio Brown may give you close to the same numbers 3 rounds later.
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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results
Didn't Fitz have those same crappy QB's throwing to him last year? He put up some pretty solid numbers regardless. If either of those QB's improve just a bit, Fitz will out produce both Stevie and Brown.David U Kennedy wrote:Fitzgerald has the name and all the talent but to me not much upside. His Quarterbacking might not be much better than Gabbert. Kolb and Skelton are a major buzz kill for Fitz. Is he worth much more than the WRs ranked 20-25? Probably not unless Kolb progresses. Gronkowski seems a lot more valuable at that point. Stevie Johnson or Antonio Brown may give you close to the same numbers 3 rounds later.
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When healthy, Kevin Kolb was actually putting up decent numbers (outside of INT's). He threw 1 pass in his final game of the year, so he basically played in 8 games and put up 1955 yards (nearly a 4000 yard pace) at 7.7 yard per attempt average (very solid) with 9 TD's (kinda low, but not atrocious, could easily have been 20 in a full 16 games).
Him and Skelton split basically 8 games each and Kolb had more yards on less attempts and Skelton had 14 INT!!! so I think Kolb is getting a horrible rep that isn't all his fault. With another year to gel, an improved O-Line, and the addition of Michael Floyd to what is a thin WR group behind Fitz, plus Ryan Williams in the backfield; Kolb can put up around 4200 yards and 22 tds, that's well within reach, and Fitz can still get a big chunk of that with 90+ receptions/8+ td if there's some consistency at the position.
It's hard to complete passes when your only receiver is tripled teamed on every play and the best thing your team had to offer was a one-dimensional Beanie Wells in the running game to draw in the safeties.
Him and Skelton split basically 8 games each and Kolb had more yards on less attempts and Skelton had 14 INT!!! so I think Kolb is getting a horrible rep that isn't all his fault. With another year to gel, an improved O-Line, and the addition of Michael Floyd to what is a thin WR group behind Fitz, plus Ryan Williams in the backfield; Kolb can put up around 4200 yards and 22 tds, that's well within reach, and Fitz can still get a big chunk of that with 90+ receptions/8+ td if there's some consistency at the position.
It's hard to complete passes when your only receiver is tripled teamed on every play and the best thing your team had to offer was a one-dimensional Beanie Wells in the running game to draw in the safeties.
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Name these two WRs and their QBs last year:David U Kennedy wrote:Fitzgerald has the name and all the talent but to me not much upside. His Quarterbacking might not be much better than Gabbert. Kolb and Skelton are a major buzz kill for Fitz. Is he worth much more than the WRs ranked 20-25? Probably not unless Kolb progresses. Gronkowski seems a lot more valuable at that point. Stevie Johnson or Antonio Brown may give you close to the same numbers 3 rounds later.
1) WR: 65 recs, 1057 yards, 7 TDs = 212 NFFC points; QB: 3398 yards, 20 TDs, 13 ints = 277 NFFC points
2) WR: 80 recs, 1411 yards, 8 TDs = 269 NFFC points; QB: 3868 yards, 20 TDs, 22 ints = 291 NFFC points
1) A.J. Green and Andy Dalton
2) Larry Fitzgerald and Kolb+Skelton - and I can forgive Skelton for his lion's share of their picks (14) seeing he probably didn't get as much time with the 1's during camp and practices
On top of that, their schedule includes some teams against whom they are likely to need to or want to pass a lot, as well as they'll get to miss their annual game at division rival San Fran for fantasy purposes because it's in week 17:
SEA @NE PHI MIA @STL BUF @MIN SF @GB @ATL STL @NYJ @SEA DET CHI @SF [week 17]
Sounds to me like someone is playing down Fitz a bit in hopes of landing him at the turn this year?
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Yes that's what it sounds like sandman. Good call.
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Many, many, many, many times in 20/20 hindsight have I wished I had gone with the safe guy over the "upside" guy.David U Kennedy wrote:Fitzgerald has the name and all the talent but to me not much upside.
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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results
I haven't posted a 14-team result in a bit, so let's add one now. Enjoy all:
NFFC 14-Team League
Round 1:
1 1 Arian Foster RB
1 2 Aaron Rodgers QB
1 3 Ray Rice RB
1 4 LeSean McCoy RB
1 5 Tom Brady QB
1 6 Ryan Mathews RB
1 7 Calvin Johnson WR
1 8 Chris Johnson RB
1 9 Drew Brees QB
1 10 Jimmy Graham TE
1 11 Maurice Jones-Drew RB
1 12 Trent Richardson RB
1 13 Roddy White WR
1 14 Jamaal Charles RB
Round 2:
2 1 Darren McFadden RB
2 2 DeMarco Murray RB
2 3 Matt Forte RB
2 4 Larry Fitzgerald WR
2 5 Matthew Stafford QB
2 6 Marshawn Lynch RB
2 7 Darren Sproles RB
2 8 Rob Gronkowski TE
2 9 Cam Newton QB
2 10 Wes Welker WR
2 11 Andre Johnson WR
2 12 A.J. Green WR
2 13 Julio Jones WR
2 14 Greg Jennings WR
Round 3 (Third Round Reversal, 14-1 this round, serpentine after this):
3 1 Brandon Lloyd WR
3 2 Michael Turner RB
3 3 Brandon Marshall WR
3 4 Doug Martin RB
3 5 Steven Jackson RB
3 6 Victor Cruz WR
3 7 Hakeem Nicks WR
3 8 Jordy Nelson WR
3 9 Fred Jackson RB
3 10 Adrian Peterson RB
3 11 Dez Bryant WR
3 12 Steve Smith WR
3 13 Marques Colston WR
3 14 Ahmad Bradshaw RB
Round 4:
4 1 Percy Harvin WR
4 2 Miles Austin WR
4 3 Mike Wallace WR
4 4 Michael Vick QB
4 5 Aaron Hernandez TE
4 6 Jeremy Maclin WR
4 7 Tony Romo QB
4 8 Antonio Gates TE
4 9 Frank Gore RB
4 10 Reggie Bush RB
4 11 Eric Decker WR
4 12 Demaryius Thomas WR
4 13 Matt Ryan QB
4 14 Eli Manning QB
Round 5:
5 1 Vernon Davis TE
5 2 Beanie Wells RB
5 3 Peyton Manning QB
5 4 Philip Rivers QB
5 5 Shonn Greene RB r
5 6 DeSean Jackson WR
5 7 Jermichael Finley TE
5 8 BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB
5 9 Stevie Johnson WR
5 10 Vincent Jackson WR
5 11 Antonio Brown WR
5 12 Dwayne Bowe WR
5 13 James Starks RB
5 14 Jason Witten TE
Round 6:
6 1 Ben Roethlisberger QB
6 2 Stevan Ridley RB
6 3 Isaac Redman RB
6 4 Peyton Hillis RB
6 5 C.J. Spiller RB
6 6 Denarius Moore WR
6 7 Willis McGahee RB
6 8 Robert Griffin III QB
6 9 Pierre Garcon WR
6 10 Torrey Smith WR
6 11 Jonathan Stewart RB
6 12 Fred Davis TE
6 13 Robert Meachem WR
6 14 Michael Bush RB
Thoughts?
NFFC 14-Team League
Round 1:
1 1 Arian Foster RB
1 2 Aaron Rodgers QB
1 3 Ray Rice RB
1 4 LeSean McCoy RB
1 5 Tom Brady QB
1 6 Ryan Mathews RB
1 7 Calvin Johnson WR
1 8 Chris Johnson RB
1 9 Drew Brees QB
1 10 Jimmy Graham TE
1 11 Maurice Jones-Drew RB
1 12 Trent Richardson RB
1 13 Roddy White WR
1 14 Jamaal Charles RB
Round 2:
2 1 Darren McFadden RB
2 2 DeMarco Murray RB
2 3 Matt Forte RB
2 4 Larry Fitzgerald WR
2 5 Matthew Stafford QB
2 6 Marshawn Lynch RB
2 7 Darren Sproles RB
2 8 Rob Gronkowski TE
2 9 Cam Newton QB
2 10 Wes Welker WR
2 11 Andre Johnson WR
2 12 A.J. Green WR
2 13 Julio Jones WR
2 14 Greg Jennings WR
Round 3 (Third Round Reversal, 14-1 this round, serpentine after this):
3 1 Brandon Lloyd WR
3 2 Michael Turner RB
3 3 Brandon Marshall WR
3 4 Doug Martin RB
3 5 Steven Jackson RB
3 6 Victor Cruz WR
3 7 Hakeem Nicks WR
3 8 Jordy Nelson WR
3 9 Fred Jackson RB
3 10 Adrian Peterson RB
3 11 Dez Bryant WR
3 12 Steve Smith WR
3 13 Marques Colston WR
3 14 Ahmad Bradshaw RB
Round 4:
4 1 Percy Harvin WR
4 2 Miles Austin WR
4 3 Mike Wallace WR
4 4 Michael Vick QB
4 5 Aaron Hernandez TE
4 6 Jeremy Maclin WR
4 7 Tony Romo QB
4 8 Antonio Gates TE
4 9 Frank Gore RB
4 10 Reggie Bush RB
4 11 Eric Decker WR
4 12 Demaryius Thomas WR
4 13 Matt Ryan QB
4 14 Eli Manning QB
Round 5:
5 1 Vernon Davis TE
5 2 Beanie Wells RB
5 3 Peyton Manning QB
5 4 Philip Rivers QB
5 5 Shonn Greene RB r
5 6 DeSean Jackson WR
5 7 Jermichael Finley TE
5 8 BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB
5 9 Stevie Johnson WR
5 10 Vincent Jackson WR
5 11 Antonio Brown WR
5 12 Dwayne Bowe WR
5 13 James Starks RB
5 14 Jason Witten TE
Round 6:
6 1 Ben Roethlisberger QB
6 2 Stevan Ridley RB
6 3 Isaac Redman RB
6 4 Peyton Hillis RB
6 5 C.J. Spiller RB
6 6 Denarius Moore WR
6 7 Willis McGahee RB
6 8 Robert Griffin III QB
6 9 Pierre Garcon WR
6 10 Torrey Smith WR
6 11 Jonathan Stewart RB
6 12 Fred Davis TE
6 13 Robert Meachem WR
6 14 Michael Bush RB
Thoughts?
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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results
Doug Martin top of the 3rd round? Time to jump ship.
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I think that i'd have to agree here especially with the reports coming out of tampa that blount is looking slim and trim.mattjb wrote:Doug Martin top of the 3rd round? Time to jump ship.
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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results
I like fitzgerald but my point is if you have the choice of Gronk and Fitz then Gronk is the my choice. I just finished a draft champions league and had the 14th pick. Graham, Gronk, and Fitzgerald were my choices for Rnd 2 pick one. I took Jimmy Graham. Much better QB and hes the number one TE on my board. I would have taken Gronk if Graham wasnt there. I see the top 2 tight ends as being more valuable than Fitzgerald.Sandman62 wrote:Name these two WRs and their QBs last year:David U Kennedy wrote:Fitzgerald has the name and all the talent but to me not much upside. His Quarterbacking might not be much better than Gabbert. Kolb and Skelton are a major buzz kill for Fitz. Is he worth much more than the WRs ranked 20-25? Probably not unless Kolb progresses. Gronkowski seems a lot more valuable at that point. Stevie Johnson or Antonio Brown may give you close to the same numbers 3 rounds later.
1) WR: 65 recs, 1057 yards, 7 TDs = 212 NFFC points; QB: 3398 yards, 20 TDs, 13 ints = 277 NFFC points
2) WR: 80 recs, 1411 yards, 8 TDs = 269 NFFC points; QB: 3868 yards, 20 TDs, 22 ints = 291 NFFC points
1) A.J. Green and Andy Dalton
2) Larry Fitzgerald and Kolb+Skelton - and I can forgive Skelton for his lion's share of their picks (14) seeing he probably didn't get as much time with the 1's during camp and practices
On top of that, their schedule includes some teams against whom they are likely to need to or want to pass a lot, as well as they'll get to miss their annual game at division rival San Fran for fantasy purposes because it's in week 17:
SEA @NE PHI MIA @STL BUF @MIN SF @GB @ATL STL @NYJ @SEA DET CHI @SF [week 17]
Sounds to me like someone is playing down Fitz a bit in hopes of landing him at the turn this year?