Early Season NFFC Draft Results

David U Kennedy
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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results

Post by David U Kennedy » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:59 pm

Fitzgerald has the name and all the talent but to me not much upside. His Quarterbacking might not be much better than Gabbert. Kolb and Skelton are a major buzz kill for Fitz. Is he worth much more than the WRs ranked 20-25? Probably not unless Kolb progresses. Gronkowski seems a lot more valuable at that point. Stevie Johnson or Antonio Brown may give you close to the same numbers 3 rounds later.

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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results

Post by CoMoHusker » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:05 pm

David U Kennedy wrote:Fitzgerald has the name and all the talent but to me not much upside. His Quarterbacking might not be much better than Gabbert. Kolb and Skelton are a major buzz kill for Fitz. Is he worth much more than the WRs ranked 20-25? Probably not unless Kolb progresses. Gronkowski seems a lot more valuable at that point. Stevie Johnson or Antonio Brown may give you close to the same numbers 3 rounds later.
Didn't Fitz have those same crappy QB's throwing to him last year? He put up some pretty solid numbers regardless. If either of those QB's improve just a bit, Fitz will out produce both Stevie and Brown.
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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results

Post by CALI CARTEL » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:15 pm

When healthy, Kevin Kolb was actually putting up decent numbers (outside of INT's). He threw 1 pass in his final game of the year, so he basically played in 8 games and put up 1955 yards (nearly a 4000 yard pace) at 7.7 yard per attempt average (very solid) with 9 TD's (kinda low, but not atrocious, could easily have been 20 in a full 16 games).

Him and Skelton split basically 8 games each and Kolb had more yards on less attempts and Skelton had 14 INT!!! so I think Kolb is getting a horrible rep that isn't all his fault. With another year to gel, an improved O-Line, and the addition of Michael Floyd to what is a thin WR group behind Fitz, plus Ryan Williams in the backfield; Kolb can put up around 4200 yards and 22 tds, that's well within reach, and Fitz can still get a big chunk of that with 90+ receptions/8+ td if there's some consistency at the position.

It's hard to complete passes when your only receiver is tripled teamed on every play and the best thing your team had to offer was a one-dimensional Beanie Wells in the running game to draw in the safeties.

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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results

Post by Sandman62 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:22 pm

David U Kennedy wrote:Fitzgerald has the name and all the talent but to me not much upside. His Quarterbacking might not be much better than Gabbert. Kolb and Skelton are a major buzz kill for Fitz. Is he worth much more than the WRs ranked 20-25? Probably not unless Kolb progresses. Gronkowski seems a lot more valuable at that point. Stevie Johnson or Antonio Brown may give you close to the same numbers 3 rounds later.
:?: Name these two WRs and their QBs last year:

1) WR: 65 recs, 1057 yards, 7 TDs = 212 NFFC points; QB: 3398 yards, 20 TDs, 13 ints = 277 NFFC points
2) WR: 80 recs, 1411 yards, 8 TDs = 269 NFFC points; QB: 3868 yards, 20 TDs, 22 ints = 291 NFFC points





1) A.J. Green and Andy Dalton
2) Larry Fitzgerald and Kolb+Skelton - and I can forgive Skelton for his lion's share of their picks (14) seeing he probably didn't get as much time with the 1's during camp and practices
:ugeek:

On top of that, their schedule includes some teams against whom they are likely to need to or want to pass a lot, as well as they'll get to miss their annual game at division rival San Fran for fantasy purposes because it's in week 17:
SEA @NE PHI MIA @STL BUF @MIN SF @GB @ATL STL @NYJ @SEA DET CHI @SF [week 17]


Sounds to me like someone is playing down Fitz a bit in hopes of landing him at the turn this year? :roll:

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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results

Post by DonnyG. » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:39 pm

Yes that's what it sounds like sandman. Good call. ;)

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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results

Post by CALI CARTEL » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:57 pm

David U Kennedy wrote:Fitzgerald has the name and all the talent but to me not much upside.
Many, many, many, many times in 20/20 hindsight have I wished I had gone with the safe guy over the "upside" guy.

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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:47 am

I haven't posted a 14-team result in a bit, so let's add one now. Enjoy all:

NFFC 14-Team League
Round 1:
1 1 Arian Foster RB
1 2 Aaron Rodgers QB
1 3 Ray Rice RB
1 4 LeSean McCoy RB
1 5 Tom Brady QB
1 6 Ryan Mathews RB
1 7 Calvin Johnson WR
1 8 Chris Johnson RB
1 9 Drew Brees QB
1 10 Jimmy Graham TE
1 11 Maurice Jones-Drew RB
1 12 Trent Richardson RB
1 13 Roddy White WR
1 14 Jamaal Charles RB

Round 2:
2 1 Darren McFadden RB
2 2 DeMarco Murray RB
2 3 Matt Forte RB
2 4 Larry Fitzgerald WR
2 5 Matthew Stafford QB
2 6 Marshawn Lynch RB
2 7 Darren Sproles RB
2 8 Rob Gronkowski TE
2 9 Cam Newton QB
2 10 Wes Welker WR
2 11 Andre Johnson WR
2 12 A.J. Green WR
2 13 Julio Jones WR
2 14 Greg Jennings WR

Round 3 (Third Round Reversal, 14-1 this round, serpentine after this):
3 1 Brandon Lloyd WR
3 2 Michael Turner RB
3 3 Brandon Marshall WR
3 4 Doug Martin RB
3 5 Steven Jackson RB
3 6 Victor Cruz WR
3 7 Hakeem Nicks WR
3 8 Jordy Nelson WR
3 9 Fred Jackson RB
3 10 Adrian Peterson RB
3 11 Dez Bryant WR
3 12 Steve Smith WR
3 13 Marques Colston WR
3 14 Ahmad Bradshaw RB

Round 4:
4 1 Percy Harvin WR
4 2 Miles Austin WR
4 3 Mike Wallace WR
4 4 Michael Vick QB
4 5 Aaron Hernandez TE
4 6 Jeremy Maclin WR
4 7 Tony Romo QB
4 8 Antonio Gates TE
4 9 Frank Gore RB
4 10 Reggie Bush RB
4 11 Eric Decker WR
4 12 Demaryius Thomas WR
4 13 Matt Ryan QB
4 14 Eli Manning QB

Round 5:
5 1 Vernon Davis TE
5 2 Beanie Wells RB
5 3 Peyton Manning QB
5 4 Philip Rivers QB
5 5 Shonn Greene RB r
5 6 DeSean Jackson WR
5 7 Jermichael Finley TE
5 8 BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB
5 9 Stevie Johnson WR
5 10 Vincent Jackson WR
5 11 Antonio Brown WR
5 12 Dwayne Bowe WR
5 13 James Starks RB
5 14 Jason Witten TE

Round 6:
6 1 Ben Roethlisberger QB
6 2 Stevan Ridley RB
6 3 Isaac Redman RB
6 4 Peyton Hillis RB
6 5 C.J. Spiller RB
6 6 Denarius Moore WR
6 7 Willis McGahee RB
6 8 Robert Griffin III QB
6 9 Pierre Garcon WR
6 10 Torrey Smith WR
6 11 Jonathan Stewart RB
6 12 Fred Davis TE
6 13 Robert Meachem WR
6 14 Michael Bush RB

Thoughts?
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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results

Post by mattjb » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:10 am

Doug Martin top of the 3rd round? Time to jump ship.

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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results

Post by DonnyG. » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:23 am

mattjb wrote:Doug Martin top of the 3rd round? Time to jump ship.
I think that i'd have to agree here especially with the reports coming out of tampa that blount is looking slim and trim.

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Re: Early Season NFFC Draft Results

Post by David U Kennedy » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:31 am

Sandman62 wrote:
David U Kennedy wrote:Fitzgerald has the name and all the talent but to me not much upside. His Quarterbacking might not be much better than Gabbert. Kolb and Skelton are a major buzz kill for Fitz. Is he worth much more than the WRs ranked 20-25? Probably not unless Kolb progresses. Gronkowski seems a lot more valuable at that point. Stevie Johnson or Antonio Brown may give you close to the same numbers 3 rounds later.
:?: Name these two WRs and their QBs last year:

1) WR: 65 recs, 1057 yards, 7 TDs = 212 NFFC points; QB: 3398 yards, 20 TDs, 13 ints = 277 NFFC points
2) WR: 80 recs, 1411 yards, 8 TDs = 269 NFFC points; QB: 3868 yards, 20 TDs, 22 ints = 291 NFFC points





1) A.J. Green and Andy Dalton
2) Larry Fitzgerald and Kolb+Skelton - and I can forgive Skelton for his lion's share of their picks (14) seeing he probably didn't get as much time with the 1's during camp and practices
:ugeek:

On top of that, their schedule includes some teams against whom they are likely to need to or want to pass a lot, as well as they'll get to miss their annual game at division rival San Fran for fantasy purposes because it's in week 17:
SEA @NE PHI MIA @STL BUF @MIN SF @GB @ATL STL @NYJ @SEA DET CHI @SF [week 17]


Sounds to me like someone is playing down Fitz a bit in hopes of landing him at the turn this year? :roll:
I like fitzgerald but my point is if you have the choice of Gronk and Fitz then Gronk is the my choice. I just finished a draft champions league and had the 14th pick. Graham, Gronk, and Fitzgerald were my choices for Rnd 2 pick one. I took Jimmy Graham. Much better QB and hes the number one TE on my board. I would have taken Gronk if Graham wasnt there. I see the top 2 tight ends as being more valuable than Fitzgerald.

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