How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

[Coltsfan]

These stats are very interesting. One thing I'm noticing is that when you have a league that does NOT contain somebody leaving the kds at 1-12 then the average pick that someone gets drops on average by a full round. If you have one or more setting at 1-12 then more people get what the want. I might argue that those sitting at 1-12 probably didn't want that - they either didn't understand the rules or forgot to set the kds. (There might be some who do want this but I think it's more likely they simply forgot.)

This is going to be a much tougher year for people to get the draft slots they want with so many people wanting to be on the back end. The 3RR really balances out a draft when you have a single dominant player. But when you have 10-15 similar players it really doesn't do much to enhance the drafting. That's easy to say in retrospect so it seems like some years it really works as intended, other years it sends a very distinct advantage to the other end of the draft such as this year. And this is not a statement of condemning or condoning 3RR, just stating an observation.


Wayne

Thanks for the observation Wayne. Fair enough.

Let me ask this: If 1 is the lowest preference for owners in 3RR, let's assume that 12 is the lowest in a straight serpentine draft. So which would you rather have: 3RR's 1, 24, 36 and 37 picks, or Serpentine's 12, 13, 36 and 37?

The real downside of both options are the players at 36 and 37. There's a huge dropoff in talent there than at the beginning of the third round. And at the very least in 3RR, that owner is getting the best player in the draft to start his team. In Serpentine, he's getting two of the top 13. So which option is better in your mind? And I'll ask everyone that.

One trend I'm seeing is that even though many owners don't want 1 to 5, those who are getting those spots are jumping WRs more now than in earlier drafts. You are seeing 4 of the first 5 picks or 5 of the first 6 picks going with WRs, dropping the top RBs to the second half of the draft. Those owners are saying that they are willing to jump the WRs because that's who they wanted later on in the first. It's changing the whole dynamic of the first round.

No setup works perfectly, but we think 3RR/KDS still allows more owners to get a top 3 preference than any other setup. Every year there are spots that people want to avoid and this year is no different.

And remember, as much as we concentrate on the first round, who carried fantasy teams to titles last year? Mainly it was Le'Veon Bell, who went in the third or fourth rounds last year, and Odell Beckham Jr., who was a late draft pick and even a FAAB pickup. Your draft spot is just one aspect of winning a title, as we all know. Good luck all.

I would rather have the backend of a straight serpentine draft as well..... But that's just me. I think there are 12-13 guys that look just about alike and at the end I can get two of them.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Last night's Online Championship had one of the more interesting KDS listings. Here's the 12 choices and the facts:

12 11 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
12 11 10 9 8 6 7 4 5 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 3 5 4 2 1
9 8 7 10 6 5 12 4 11 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
10 11 12 2 3 1 4 9 5 7 8 6
1 2 3 6 7 8 9 4 5 10 11 12
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
9 12 11 10 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
9 10 11 12 8 7 6 5 4 3 1 2

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 3.91, which means on average each owner got their fourth preference.
* Three owners got their No. 1 preference and three owners got their second preference. After that the preferences received were 5th, 6th, 6th, 6th, 7th, 8th.
* Only four different spots were the top preference among 12 owners: 1, 9, 10, 12. Interesting. Seven owners had No. 1 listed last.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Not all of the leagues work perfectly for KDS preferences, but this Online Championship from this weekend sure did. Here's a look at the 12 preferences and how they turned out:

1 2 3 12 4 5 10 8 11 7 9 6
7 6 5 12 1 2 3 4 8 9 10 11
1 2 3 4 12 5 6 11 7 8 9 10
8 9 7 6 5 4 10 11 12 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
8 7 9 10 11 12 6 5 4 3 2 1
7 8 6 12 11 10 9 1 2 3 4 5
3 4 5 7 8 9 2 1 10 6 11 12
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 1 2 5 4 3
8 9 10 11 12 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 1 2
10 11 12 3 2 1 9 8 7 6 5 4

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.42, which means on average every owner got a preference around 2 or 3.
* FIVE owners got their first preference and four owners got their second preference. Other preferences received were 4, 4, and 8.
* Six different draft spots were listed as No. 1 preferences: 1,3,7,8,10,12. No. 1 was listed last only three times. That's a new record!

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's another result from this weekend's Online Championship League:

12 11 2 3 1 4 5 10 6 9 8 7
11 12 10 9 8 7 5 6 4 3 2 1
10 11 9 12 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
9 12 11 10 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 12 11 10 9 8 7 6
12 11 2 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
8 7 6 11 12 10 5 4 3 9 2 1
8 9 7 6 5 12 11 10 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.58, which means on average owners got their 2nd or 3rd preference.
* SIX owners got their No. 1 preference. After that, preferences received were 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th.
* The No. 1 preferences were 1,8,9,10,11,12.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's another Online Championship League that worked pretty well:

KDS Preferences by Each Owner:
12 1 11 5 6 4 7 2 10 3 8 9
10 12 11 9 8 6 7 1 2 3 4 5
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
9 8 7 6 5 10 11 12 4 3 2 1
9 8 10 11 12 5 7 6 1 2 3 4
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
9 7 10 11 12 8 6 5 4 3 2 1
11 10 12 9 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 9 10 11 12 8 7 6 5 4

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 3.0, which means on average every owner got their third preference.
* Four owners got their first preference, two owners got their second preference and two owners got their third preference. Other preferences received were 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th.
* Only five spots were the No. 1 preference by this group: 1, 9, 10, 11, 12.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's another interesting KDS:

7 8 9 6 5 1 2 3 4 12 11 10
1 2 3 4 9 8 7 6 5 12 11 10
9 8 7 6 5 1 2 3 4 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
11 12 10 8 4 9 7 6 5 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
9 10 11 12 8 7 6 5 4 3 1 2
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 11 10 3 9 2 8 1 4 5 6 7
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 1 2
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

Fast Facts:
* Average KDS preference received was 3.33, which means on average owners got their 3rd or 4th preference.
* Three owners got their first preference, which was low, while three owners got their second preference. Two owners got their third preference, two owners got their fourth preference, followed by 7th and 10th.
* No. 1 preferences listed were: 1, 7, 9, 11, 12.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Four owners chose to keep their KDS at 1-12 in this recent Online Championship, which made the results look good here:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
9 8 10 11 12 7 6 5 1 2 3 4
10 9 8 11 12 7 6 5 3 4 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 11 10 9 8 7 1 2 3 4 5 6
10 11 12 9 8 7 6 4 5 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 11 4 1 2 10 7 3 5 6 8 9
8 7 6 5 9 10 4 11 12 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

Fast Facts:
* Average KDS preference received was 2.91, which means on average each owner got their third preference.
* Three owners got their first preference and four owners got their second preference. Other preferences received were 3, 4, 4, 6, 7.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Last night's Online Championship was one of the more interesting ones as nobody picked 11 or 12 as a top preference. I'm not sure we've seen that yet this year. Here you go:

6 7 9 12 11 10 8 5 4 3 2 1
8 9 7 10 12 6 5 4 11 1 2 3
1 2 3 10 4 11 12 7 8 9 5 6
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
8 9 7 6 10 11 5 4 3 12 2 1
8 9 7 6 12 11 10 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
10 11 12 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
7 8 6 9 10 11 12 5 4 3 2 1
10 11 2 3 12 4 5 6 7 1 8 9
9 10 7 5 6 1 2 3 4 8 11 12

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.75, which means on average each owner got their third preference or better.
* FIVE owners got their top preference and two owners got their 2nd preference. Five owners also got their 5th preference and one owner got his 4th preference.

[Greg Ambrosius]

The "Beat Jeff Erickson" Online Championship League was interesting because seven different owners got their first preference and 9 of 12 owners got a Top 2 preference. Jeff wasn't one of them, however, as he got his 9th preference, the 4th pick. But he liked his team last night, so there's always that. Here's a look at how this league started out:

5 6 7 8 12 11 4 3 2 1 9 10
8 9 7 10 11 12 6 5 4 3 2 1
5 6 4 7 8 9 10 11 12 3 1 2
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4 12 11 5 6 7 8 9 10
9 10 11 12 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
7 6 8 9 12 11 10 5 4 3 2 1
9 12 11 10 1 2 3 8 7 6 5 4
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
7 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
10 11 12 5 6 7 8 9 3 4 2 1

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.33, among our best ever.
* SEVEN owners got their first preference and two owners got their 2nd preference. Other preferences received were 3, 5 and 9.

One interesting trend that we're seeing now in the NFFC is that with the WRs going earlier and earlier in the first round, owners are moving their KDS preferences up from 12 and 11 to 7, 8 and 9. And in this draft, five of the first six picks were WRs, leaving 7-9 with the top Running Backs. Those owners said they were surprised to see the top WRs gone, but changed gears and started with one of the Top RBs. Interesting.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's another interesting KDS from last night's Online Championship League that had a wide range of top preferences:

12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
10 9 8 7 3 4 5 11 12 6 2 1
4 5 6 11 7 12 8 3 10 9 2 1
8 9 7 6 10 5 4 3 11 1 12 2
3 9 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12
8 7 10 9 11 12 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
9 8 12 11 10 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
10 11 12 9 8 3 4 5 6 7 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

Fast Facts:
* Average KDS preference received was 2.25, which means each owner got around their second preference.
* Four owners got their first preference and five owners got their second preference. Other preferences received were 3, 4 and 6.
* Seven different spots were listed as a top preference by owners: 1, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 12. In the last week, we've seen owners moving their KDS preferences up a little higher, maybe to get a shot at some of those top wideouts. No longer do we see Nos. 12 and 11 as the dominant first choices. In fact, 11 hasn't been a top choice for much of this week. Interesting change here everyone.