How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by FantasyJC » Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:08 am

I feel there is a definite advantage to having a draft position towards the end of the round. If a stud player drops to you at 10, you may not lose ground to a manager with a top 3-4 pick but get to pick early in rounds 2 and 3. This creates a situation where a person can get a really strong top 3.

In a draft of mine with the 3rd pick, there was a run of about 5 WRs towards the end of the third round where the best WR left was basically Keenan Allen at around pick 34. I think he is in for a bounce back year but there are concerns that he might not be a legit star player and may not get the lion share of the targets. I didn't think too much of it at the time because I was just trying to pick the best WR at that point and managed to draft Lamar Miller in the early 4th. The more I think about it shortly after, that was the one part of the draft that I was not satisfied with regarding my team. Now if Peterson does not have better year than the players getting picked towards the end of the first round and Keenan does not play well that can be tough to overcome. I personally set my preference for 3 because I wanted to get one of the big 3 but didn't think I would get stuck with Keenan. I even went into the draft thinking I was a slight disadvantage because of the 3RR.

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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:21 am

The KDS preferences are all over the board, as evidenced by our latest Online Championship League:

6 10 7 8 9 12 11 4 5 3 2 1
7 8 5 9 4 10 6 3 2 11 1 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
5 6 7 8 11 12 4 9 10 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 1 2 3
9 10 11 12 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
9 10 11 8 12 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
7 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
8 6 9 7 10 5 4 11 3 12 2 1
8 7 9 6 10 11 5 12 4 3 2 1

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.25, which means owners got their second or third preference.
* SIX owners got their first preference. This is becoming a trend lately. Other preferred spots were: 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th.
* Seven different draft spots were listed first: 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:43 pm

Let's update some of these weekend Online Championship Leagues with their KDS preferences. This one worked out pretty well:

5 6 7 8 4 9 10 11 12 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
11 10 9 12 6 7 8 5 4 3 2 1
10 1 11 4 5 3 8 2 9 6 7 12
12 11 10 1 2 3 6 5 4 9 7 8
6 7 5 8 4 3 1 2 9 10 11 12
8 9 12 11 10 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
9 10 11 12 5 8 7 6 4 3 2 1
4 5 3 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 1 2
8 7 9 6 11 12 10 5 4 3 2 1
10 9 11 12 7 8 6 5 4 3 1 2

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.67, which means on average owners got their third preference.
* SIX owners got their first preference and three owners got their third preference. Other preferences received were 5th, 5th and 10th.
* There were a record EIGHT different draft spots chosen here as the top preference by owners. They include draft spots 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:54 pm

Let's look at another Online Championship League from this weekend. These KDS preferences are getting more and more interesting with each one:

7 6 5 8 9 1 2 3 4 12 11 10
11 10 12 9 8 7 6 1 5 2 4 3
10 11 12 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
8 7 6 9 10 5 11 12 4 3 2 1
9 8 7 6 10 5 4 11 12 3 2 1
8 7 6 11 1 2 5 3 10 4 9 12
7 8 6 9 10 11 12 3 4 5 1 2
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 11 4 3 10 9 1 8 7 6 5 2
12 11 10 6 9 7 1 2 3 4 5 8
6 12 3 8 4 10 5 7 9 2 1 11
12 7 6 8 9 10 11 5 4 3 2 1

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 3.25, which means owners got between their third and fourth preference.
* FIVE owners got their first preference and two owners got their second preference. Other preferences received were 3, 3, 5, 8, 11.
* Once again, EIGHT different draft spots were listed as the top preference by owners. They included spots 1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. Very, very interesting.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:05 pm

Here's one more Online Championship League where eight different spots wre the top choice of owners. Here's the preference from all 12 owners:

Rotowire Online Championship League:

2 9 4 12 3 8 5 10 6 7 11 1
10 11 12 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
7 8 6 9 12 11 10 5 4 1 2 3
8 9 7 10 11 12 6 5 4 3 2 1
10 11 12 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 1 2 3 4
7 6 8 9 10 11 12 5 4 3 2 1
6 7 5 8 9 4 3 2 10 11 1 12
6 7 12 11 5 10 8 9 4 3 2 1
10 11 9 8 7 12 6 4 5 3 2 1
11 10 12 9 8 7 6 5 4 2 3 1

Fast Facts:
* The average draft preference received was 3.42, which means on average owners got their 3rd or 4th preference.
* Four owners got their top preference, two owners got their second preference and three owners got their third preference. Other preferences received were 5, 9 and 10.
* EIGHT different draft spots were picked as the top preference by owners in this league. They included draft spots 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:30 am

Wow, was this KDS interesting from a Sunday Online Championship league. This one tied records in a number of ways, so check it out. Here's the 12 KDS preferences:

12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 6 8 7 4 5 9 10 3 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
2 3 4 5 6 8 7 9 11 10 12 1
11 10 9 8 12 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
6 7 5 4 8 9 3 11 10 2 1 12
12 6 5 11 1 2 3 4 7 8 9 10
6 7 8 9 10 3 4 5 2 11 12 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
3 4 12 11 1 10 9 2 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
4 5 6 3 2 12 7 8 9 1 10 11

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.92, which means on average each owner got his third preference.
* EIGHT owners got their first preference, tied for the best so far this year. Other preferences received were: 2nd, 5th, 8th and 12th. Yes, one owner got his 12th preference, which was the 10th spot. That spot has been highly desirable in other leagues, but not this time.
* The eight draft spots that were listed as top preferences were picks 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 11, and 12.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:48 am

Here's another interesting KDS listing from Sunday's Online Championship League. This time a record NINE different draft spots were listed as the top preferences from these owners as everyone seems to have a different opinion on which draft spot is best to draft from. This is getting more interesting by the day.

Here are the 12 preferences for this league:

2 1 5 4 3 10 9 8 7 6 12 11
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 1 2 3
10 11 12 9 6 4 3 1 2 5 7 8
6 7 5 8 9 12 11 10 4 3 2 1
7 8 9 10 6 11 12 5 4 3 2 1
11 9 10 1 2 12 8 7 6 5 4 3
9 11 10 12 5 6 8 7 4 3 2 1
6 7 8 5 2 1 4 9 10 11 12 3
12 11 3 4 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 2
2 6 5 7 4 1 8 12 3 10 11 9
8 7 9 10 11 12 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.17, which means on average each owner got their 2nd preference.
* EIGHT owners got their first preference, tied for the best so far. Other preferences received were: 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 8th.
* A record 9 different spots were listed as the top preference by owners in this league. They were picks 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12. Wow.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by CALI CARTEL » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:07 am

It's cyclical, this year the 3RR seems to favor the end picks, but in years where there's a clear Top 2-4 picks, then it balances the draft a little better. I've done a bunch of cheaper MFL drafts, they do not do the 3RR and I feel the early picks have a huge advantage there, especially since it's next to impossible to get a decent RB at the 3/4 turn in that format.

So while this season the NFFC is skewed a little towards the end picks, I think that is far better than giving the teams at the top of the draft three of the top 26-28 picks, including their pick of the litter in the first round.

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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:45 am

This KDS from last night's Online Championship League was wild as six different owners had 12 as their top preference and only two owners got their first preference. Check this one out:

1 2 12 11 10 9 8 3 4 5 6 7
9 8 10 11 12 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 11 10 9 7 6 4 3 1 2 8 5
9 8 7 6 5 12 11 10 1 2 3 4
12 11 9 10 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
2 4 3 12 1 5 8 11 10 9 7 6
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 5 4 6 7 8 3 2 1

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 3.42, which means on average owners got their 3rd or 4th preference.
* Only TWO owners got their first preference, the lowest total of the season. Only three owners got their second preference, so only 5 of 12 in the Top 2, also the lowest of the season. Other preferences received were: 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
* Six owners had 12 listed first. Only 4 different top preferences were listed: 1, 2, 9 and 12. Wow.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:57 am

The KDS for last night's other Online Championship League was very different. See below:

8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 9 12 11 10
12 11 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 10 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
10 9 8 7 6 5 11 12 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
10 8 7 11 12 9 6 5 4 1 2 3
10 9 11 12 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
10 9 8 7 12 11 6 5 3 2 4 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
6 7 8 9 10 11 12 5 4 3 2 1
12 10 8 9 11 4 7 6 5 3 2 1
5 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.75, which means on average each owner got their third preference.
* SIX owners got their first preference. Other preferences received were: 2, 3, 3, 4, 6, 9.
* The six different top preferences were: 1, 5, 6, 8, 10 and 12.
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