How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:39 am

Last night's Online Championship featured one of the most interesting KDS settings to date as NINE different owners picked No. 12 as their first preference. We have seen a trend away from 12 as the top preference recently, but not in this league. Here's the data and the facts:

12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
6 7 8 5 4 10 9 3 2 1 11 12
12 11 10 9 7 8 6 5 1 2 3 4
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 1 7 6 5 4 3 2
8 7 9 10 6 11 12 1 2 3 4 5
12 1 11 2 8 9 10 7 6 5 4 3
3 4 5 6 9 10 7 8 2 11 12 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 3 4 2 1
12 11 7 6 5 8 1 2 3 4 9 10
12 11 10 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference receives was 3.42, which means on average owners got their third or fourth preference.
* Four owners got their first preference and two owners got their second preference. Other preferences received wree 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 8th and 9th.
* NINE different owners picked 12 as their first preference, a record for this format. The three other top preferences were 3, 6 and 8.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:23 am

Here's a look at a recent Online Championship Draft and how KDS worked:

5 6 7 4 8 9 1 2 12 11 3 10
12 11 10 9 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
7 6 8 9 12 11 10 5 1 2 4 3
9 8 7 6 5 10 11 12 4 3 2 1
9 10 11 12 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
9 12 11 10 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 1 2 3 4 8 7 6 5
9 8 10 11 7 6 12 5 4 3 2 1
8 9 7 10 6 11 12 5 4 3 1 2
1 12 3 2 7 8 11 9 10 6 5 4
5 6 7 4 8 9 10 3 2 1 11 12

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.67.
* SIX owners got their 1st preference and two owners got their 2nd preference. Other preferences received: 3rd, 3rd, 7th, 9th.
* Top preferences listed and received were: 1, 5, 7, 8, 9, 12.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:28 am

Here's another one, with the 12 KDS preferences listed below:

12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3
10 11 12 9 8 7 6 5 4 3
12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
8 9 10 7 6 5 11 3 12 1
10 11 12 9 8 7 1 2 3 4
5 6 4 7 8 9 10 11 12 2
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
10 11 8 9 12 7 5 6 3 2
9 8 7 12 11 10 6 1 2 3
4 6 5 7 2 3 1 8 9 10
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Fast Facts:
* Average KDS preference received was 3.17.
* FIVE owners got their first preference and two owners got their 2nd preference. Other preferences received were: 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th, 9th.
* Top preferences listed were: 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, 12.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:37 am

This one was VERY interesting:

6 7 8 5 3 1 2 4 9 10 11 12
10 9 8 7 6 1 2 3 4 5 11 12
6 11 12 5 7 1 2 3 4 8 9 10
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
10 11 12 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 4 5 6 3 2 8 7 9 11 10 12
6 5 7 8 4 9 10 3 1 2 12 11
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
9 10 8 1 7 11 12 6 5 4 3 2
4 3 5 2 10 11 1 12 6 7 9 8
8 12 7 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11
4 5 6 7 3 8 9 12 10 11 2 1

Fast Facts:
* Average KDS preference received was 2.67
* SEVEN owners got their first preference and one got their 2nd preference. Other preferences received were 3rd, 7th and 12th. Amazingly, the owner who got the 11th pick in this draft got his last preference. Usually a lot of owners want that spot, but not this owner and not in this draft. Crazy.
* The seven top preferences were picks: 1, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10 and 12.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:44 am

So how is KDS working since the Jordy injury? Let's find out. Here are the recent KDS preferences for last night's Online Championship League:

8 9 10 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
10 11 12 6 5 9 7 8 4 3 2 1
8 9 10 11 12 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
5 6 7 4 8 9 10 3 2 11 12 1
7 6 9 8 10 11 12 4 5 3 2 1
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
10 9 8 11 7 12 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 12 5 11 6 7 8 9 10
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
9 12 11 10 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.5.
* Four owners got their first preference and five owners got their second preference. Other preferences received were 3, 4 and 9.
* NINE different draft spots were listed as top preferences: 1, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:56 am

Here's another look at KDS preferences from last night's Online Championship League:

8 9 6 1 7 5 4 10 2 11 3 12
9 10 12 11 1 2 3 4 8 7 6 5
5 4 3 2 1 6 12 11 10 7 8 9
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
10 11 12 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
9 10 11 6 12 8 7 5 4 3 2 1
7 8 9 10 11 6 12 5 4 3 2 1
9 8 10 11 12 6 2 7 4 3 5 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 1 4 3 2
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

Fast Facts:
* The average KDS preference received was 2.67
* FIVE owners got their first preference and four owners got their second preference. Other preferences received were 5ht, 7th and 7th.
* Seven different draft spots were listed as top preferences: 1, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12.

Thoughts on if anything has changed since Jordy's injury? I see some people moving up a little in the draft order and lots of different opinions, but that was the same way before the injury. Interesting.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:50 am

I didn't have time to post any KDS preferences the last two days, but let's look at a few this morning:

8 7 9 6 10 5 4 11 12 3 2 1
4 3 1 2 5 6 10 11 8 9 12 7
9 8 7 10 6 5 3 4 11 2 12 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
3 8 12 7 11 9 10 6 5 2 4 1
10 8 11 7 12 9 6 5 4 3 2 1
6 7 5 8 4 3 9 10 1 2 11 12
8 7 6 5 12 11 9 10 4 3 2 1
7 8 9 10 6 11 5 12 4 3 2 1
8 9 10 11 12 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
12 11 3 2 10 1 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 8 7 9 6 5 4 3 2 1


Fast Facts:
* Average KDS preference received was 3.25.
* SIX owners got their first preference, one got their 2nd preference and two owners got their third preference. Other preferences received were 7th, 9th and 9th.
* Nine different draft spots were listed as top preferences. They included picks: 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 12. Interesting.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:06 am

Here's another interesting one from last night:

Cruisers Custom 5 6 7 8 12 11 10 9 1 2 3 4
DREAD1 2015 Custom 4 5 6 7 3 2 1 8 9 10 11 12
Drooling Grillers 1 Custom 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Little Urban Achievers Custom 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
MarissChris 16 Custom 6 7 8 5 9 12 1 10 11 2 4 3
Saxton OLC Custom 10 8 9 12 11 7 6 5 4 1 2 3
Team Burroughs Custom 7 6 8 9 10 11 12 5 4 3 2 1
Team Musso Custom 11 10 9 8 7 6 1 12 2 3 4 5
Team Ng Custom 5 6 11 4 7 12 8 3 10 2 9 1
Team Poulson Custom 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Team prosky Custom 6 4 7 3 1 9 5 11 8 12 2 10
The Franchise Custom 7 8 6 9 10 11 12 5 4 3 2 1

Fast Facts:
* Average KDS preference received was 2.83 even with one owner getting his last preference. That's right, nobody wanted the third pick last night and the owner who got it had #3 as his 12th preference.
* SEVEN different owners got their first preference. Other preferences received were 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 7th and 12th.
* NINE different draft spots were listed as the top preference of owners. They included picks: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12.
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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by bald is beautiful » Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:47 pm

I despise KDS this year. I have gotten one of my last 3 picks in about 80% of my leagues. I just got my last pick in Primetime - #1. Really unbelievable.

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Re: How Are You Dealing With KDS & 3RR In 2015?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:12 pm

bald is beautiful wrote:I despise KDS this year. I have gotten one of my last 3 picks in about 80% of my leagues. I just got my last pick in Primetime - #1. Really unbelievable.
Jack, sorry for the confusion but we haven't picked the draft order in that league yet. They will be picked shortly tonight. Save that heart attack until you see the real draft spots for this league!! :lol:

But this is on us for the confusion. We create the league and this year we are checking to see if everyone has their KDS preferences set before pressing the button to run random/KDS draft order. Unfortunately, the 12 owners in that league pop up in the Draft Order box before we do that. We need to hide that until the button is pressed, but didn't think this through.

I know we shouldn't worry about everyone's KDS, but it's very important this year and it's possible we didn't communicate the deadlines well enough. Anyway, everyone has set them after we've contacted them and in this league we're missing two owners before running the draft order. You'll always get an email with the draft order if that helps, but this confusion is on us for trying to make every league as competitive as possible.

Look for the draft spots tonight if all goes well for this league and hopefully you get a draft spot you like. Thanks and sorry.
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