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Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:19 am

Originally posted by Bald is Beautiful:
quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:
Wayne - fifth round or so. I think he can be a Top 20 WR with a healthy Manning. I'd compare him to where guys like Boldin and Lloyd went this season.
Oh jeez, here we go again!

[/QUOTE]Tell you what Jack, you ignore the fact we disagree on whether Wayne can still be productive with a healthy Peyton Manning and I'll forget you told me I was wrong about Caleb Haine and this would be the week I'd be raving about how good he is.

Sound good?

[ December 05, 2011, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Tom Kessenich ]

bald is beautiful · Post by **bald is beautiful** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:22 am

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:
quote:Originally posted by Bald is Beautiful:
quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:
Wayne - fifth round or so. I think he can be a Top 20 WR with a healthy Manning. I'd compare him to where guys like Boldin and Lloyd went this season.
Oh jeez, here we go again!

[/QUOTE]Tell you what Jack, you ignore the fact we disagree on whether Wayne can still be productive with a healthy Peyton Manning and I'll forget you told me I was wrong about Caleb Haine and this would be the week I'd be raving about how good he is.

Sound good?

[/QUOTE]Touche. I was thinking about that yesterday when the Bears put up a solid 3 points, the same amount of INT's that Hanie threw.

At least I can admit when I am wrong!

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:27 am

Originally posted by Bald is Beautiful:

At least I can admit when I am wrong! So can I. Ask me how my Mario Manningham call worked out this season. Or how I wasn't agreeing with the hype surrounding Jordy Nelson. Big swings and misses on both and I've acknowledged that in this forum. You just can't get past the fact we disagree about one particular player. I'm not sure why you are hell bent on using that example as an indication I think I'm infallible. Nothing could be further from the truth. If I make a bold call and it goes south you won't have to look very far to find me. I'm right here.

ForLoveOfTheGame · Post by **ForLoveOfTheGame** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:20 am

Wayne...

No mention of where Peyton Manning will be drafted or what uniform he'll be wearing?!?! Thats gotta be one of the biggest questions!

Going to be pretty tough to see him QBing the Jets next year!!! =(

Jared-

Cocktails and Dreams · Post by **Cocktails and Dreams** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:21 am

Please do not bring up Mario Manningham. Just when I start putting him out of my mind, he randomly gets mentioned here. He and Felix were on a two man mission to ruin my fantasy season.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:23 am

Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:
Please do not bring up Mario Manningham. Just when I start putting him out of my mind, he randomly gets mentioned here. Sorry Chad. I was All In for Manningham this season. I was convinced he was going to blow up. Huge swing and a miss on my part there.

Coltsfan · Post by **Coltsfan** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:00 am

Jared,

I think Manning will probably be a Colt next year. My guess is that they would want to bring Luck in similar to what GB did with Rodgers but who knows. If he's a Colt then I would think his drafts spots moves up to somewhere in the late 3rd to early 4th by September. In early drafts I would guess 5th to 6th. That's just a guess.

Chad,

It's hard to say what Manningham would have done if he stays healthy this year. I would think that Cruz would not be breaking out right now if it wasn't for the injuries. Felix fooled me too. I really thought he had a good shot at 230 points this year.

Wayne

ForLoveOfTheGame · Post by **ForLoveOfTheGame** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:27 am

I agree Wayne that the GB scenario sounds great and all but eventually the Colts are going to realize just how bad the defense is and actually try to do something about it RIGHT?!?! I don't see how that can be done with Peyton and Luck eating up such a huge portion of the salary cap... and this is coming from the biggest Peyton Manning fan in the world...

The Colts are a playoff team with Peyton... wait I meant Peyton is a playoff team with anyone

but do you think they would at least consider the idea of dealing the #1 pick for a massive haul of defensive talent from a rebuilding team? I doubt it considering Peyton's age and injury risk but its an interesting thought

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:32 am

Originally posted by ForLoveOfTheGame:
I agree Wayne that the GB scenario sounds great and all but eventually the Colts are going to realize just how bad the defense is and actually try to do something about it RIGHT?!?! I don't see how that can be done with Peyton and Luck eating up such a huge portion of the salary cap.While that's true if you have the opportunity to add a potential franchise QB you do it regardless of what other needs your team has. If the Colts are able to replicate the Packers' approach (i.e. going from a Hall of Fame QB to another franchise starter) that would be a huge positive step for them to take. What the Packers have done and what the 49ers did years ago with Montana to Young is not the norm. Teams typically struggle trying to replace a Hall of Fame QB. If the Colts are able to transition from Manning to Luck and Luck is as good as advertised they put themselves in position to remain a prominent team for many more years to come.

bald is beautiful · Post by **bald is beautiful** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:49 am

Originally posted by ForLoveOfTheGame:
I agree Wayne that the GB scenario sounds great and all but eventually the Colts are going to realize just how bad the defense is and actually try to do something about it RIGHT?!?! I don't see how that can be done with Peyton and Luck eating up such a huge portion of the salary cap... and this is coming from the biggest Peyton Manning fan in the world...

The Colts are a playoff team with Peyton... wait I meant Peyton is a playoff team with anyone

but do you think they would at least consider the idea of dealing the #1 pick for a massive haul of defensive talent from a rebuilding team? I doubt it considering Peyton's age and injury risk but its an interesting thought It is about time you joined the message boards, Mister. People have little idea of the extent of your acumen!