KJ Duke's Lifetime NFFC Leaderboard

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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:13 am

Originally posted by RI WORKHORSE:
quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:
I am attempting to develop a ranking methodology for accumulated lifetime accomplishment in the NFBC and NFFC. The concept is based on Lifetime Championship Scoring (LCS) points. Anyone cashing out any NFFC league scores LCS points, the higher the lge or accomplishment, the higher the points. Scoring detail below, anyone with 10 pts or more makes the list. (Co-manager data not yet available).

NFFC Leaderboard

The Elite - Averaging double digit LCS points per NFFC season
Josh Ferenc (56)
Mark Srebro (56)
Rob Benetti (50)
Kyle Pope (44)
Glenn Schroter (42)
Eddie Gillis (34)
Michael Edelman (34)
Scott Stauffer (34)
Mike Ward (32)

Title Contenders - On the verge of Stardom
Donald Thompson (28)
Johnny Frisella (28)
Billy Wasosky (26)
Ken Magner (25)
Eric Lundquist (24)
Jules McLean (24)
Lewis Lightfoot (24)
David Zwickel (21)
Barry Harcus (20)
James Mack (20)
John Bayley (20)
Joseph Treffiletti (20)
Mark Moyer (20)
Scott Gunaca (20)

Proven Winners - Skills to compete at the highest level
David Fisher (17)
Stephen Jupinka (17)
Chris Cannataro (16)
Dave Cushard (16)
Edward Killmer (16)
Kenrol Paynter (16)
Larry Schechter (16)
Ronald Rogers (16)
Shawn Childs (16)
Rick Thomas (14)
Jeff Clampett (13)
Lonny Graves (12)
Steve Pletkin (12)
Jason Steeves (11)
Richard Dunn (11)
Mike Ferre (10)
Rick Hart (10)
Wayne Ellis (10)
Will Robertson (10)

LCS Point Accumulation:
Win Overall Main Event (40)
Top 3 Overall Main Event (16)
Top 8 Overall Main Event(8)
Points Leader, regular season, Main Event (8)
Consolation Bowl winner (8)
Top 4 Consolation Bowl (4)

Win $5000+ lge (16)
Cash $5000+ lge (8)
Win $1000+ lge (8)
Cash $1000+ lge (4)
Win $500+ lge (4)
Cash $500+ lge (2)
Win any lge (2)
Cash any lge (1)

*** Teams do not win duplicate pts for the same team in one league (i.e., if a league H2H season winner also cashs out in the playoffs, that team if not awarded LCS points multiple times), with the exception of consolation bowl or overall main event winners.
Great work on this!!!! :D :D

I seen Billy waz wanting his due so I figured i would try to get mine....

I won -

1.Back to Back main events-16 points(no extra for b2b?

2.Auction championship-8 points

3.DC 28 team satellite-8 points

4.DC 3rd place finish-2 points

5.won three satellite league's-24 points

Total-58-points :D :D :D

Again Great work on this....No extra points for winning two main events in a row....???? How about three? Also would my scoring be correct?

Thanks
Johnny
[/QUOTE]Eddie is claiming the 2005 league title, Johnny! :D
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Post by BillyWaz » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:24 am

Originally posted by renman:
Again, if you are rewarding the "top dog" is the top dog the team who was the best all season or the team who got lucky in a head 2 head playoff game?
For this league's purposes in 2005, it is the team who was crowned champion.

Not saying I agree with it, and I have a feeling that is why the format was changed, but the best team DOES NOT always win (Colts in 2005).

Trust me, I dealt with this firsthand this year in a satellite league.

I have been on BOTH sides of the coin MANY times, and again, it may not be fair, but as we tell middle schoolers here.....

LIFE ISN'T FAIR....GET USED TO IT! ;)

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Post by RI WORKHORSE » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:37 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
quote:Originally posted by RI WORKHORSE:
quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:
I am attempting to develop a ranking methodology for accumulated lifetime accomplishment in the NFBC and NFFC. The concept is based on Lifetime Championship Scoring (LCS) points. Anyone cashing out any NFFC league scores LCS points, the higher the lge or accomplishment, the higher the points. Scoring detail below, anyone with 10 pts or more makes the list. (Co-manager data not yet available).

NFFC Leaderboard

The Elite - Averaging double digit LCS points per NFFC season
Josh Ferenc (56)
Mark Srebro (56)
Rob Benetti (50)
Kyle Pope (44)
Glenn Schroter (42)
Eddie Gillis (34)
Michael Edelman (34)
Scott Stauffer (34)
Mike Ward (32)

Title Contenders - On the verge of Stardom
Donald Thompson (28)
Johnny Frisella (28)
Billy Wasosky (26)
Ken Magner (25)
Eric Lundquist (24)
Jules McLean (24)
Lewis Lightfoot (24)
David Zwickel (21)
Barry Harcus (20)
James Mack (20)
John Bayley (20)
Joseph Treffiletti (20)
Mark Moyer (20)
Scott Gunaca (20)

Proven Winners - Skills to compete at the highest level
David Fisher (17)
Stephen Jupinka (17)
Chris Cannataro (16)
Dave Cushard (16)
Edward Killmer (16)
Kenrol Paynter (16)
Larry Schechter (16)
Ronald Rogers (16)
Shawn Childs (16)
Rick Thomas (14)
Jeff Clampett (13)
Lonny Graves (12)
Steve Pletkin (12)
Jason Steeves (11)
Richard Dunn (11)
Mike Ferre (10)
Rick Hart (10)
Wayne Ellis (10)
Will Robertson (10)

LCS Point Accumulation:
Win Overall Main Event (40)
Top 3 Overall Main Event (16)
Top 8 Overall Main Event(8)
Points Leader, regular season, Main Event (8)
Consolation Bowl winner (8)
Top 4 Consolation Bowl (4)

Win $5000+ lge (16)
Cash $5000+ lge (8)
Win $1000+ lge (8)
Cash $1000+ lge (4)
Win $500+ lge (4)
Cash $500+ lge (2)
Win any lge (2)
Cash any lge (1)

*** Teams do not win duplicate pts for the same team in one league (i.e., if a league H2H season winner also cashs out in the playoffs, that team if not awarded LCS points multiple times), with the exception of consolation bowl or overall main event winners.
Great work on this!!!!

I seen Billy waz wanting his due so I figured i would try to get mine....

I won -

1.Back to Back main events-16 points(no extra for b2b?

2.Auction championship-8 points

3.DC 28 team satellite-8 points

4.DC 3rd place finish-2 points

5.won three satellite league's-24 points

Total-58-points :D :D :D

Again Great work on this....No extra points for winning two main events in a row....???? How about three? Also would my scoring be correct?

Thanks
Johnny
[/QUOTE]Eddie is claiming the 2005 league title, Johnny! :D
[/QUOTE]Greg....Thats funnie :D

Even Your boy gekko would say Ed had two #1 picks(Tomlinson two years in a row...But only cashed in with the Workhorse.. :D :confused:


I also Have more points then 28?????

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Post by RI WORKHORSE » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:42 am

Originally posted by SNAKE:
JJ - you never seem to get your due comrade...it's almost like a conspiracy of sorts...at any rate comrade, it's good to see you back and breathing...SNAKE Whats up Snake.....You still waiting to get into the Chum-Chum Club too.... :D :D


Maybe we can start something in Tampa :D


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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:21 pm

Derek Andersen of Lumpy's Losers made a good suggestion that I should incentivize those loyal owners who do multiple leagues at our live drafts. You know, if you happen to win two league titles I throw in a free $650 Auction League or Draft Champions League the next year. If you happen to win three events I throw in a free NFFC main event entry the next year. If you happen to win all four events, I'll throw in a free Ultimate League entry. I like it and will be willing to do something like this.

That's where I like the Lifetime Standings that KJ Duke is putting together. Let's keep it going and keep the momentum on this rolling.
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Post by RI WORKHORSE » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:11 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
Derek Andersen of Lumpy's Losers made a good suggestion that I should incentivize those loyal owners who do multiple leagues at our live drafts. You know, if you happen to win two league titles I throw in a free $650 Auction League or Draft Champions League the next year. If you happen to win three events I throw in a free NFFC main event entry the next year. If you happen to win all four events, I'll throw in a free Ultimate League entry. I like it and will be willing to do something like this.

That's where I like the Lifetime Standings that KJ Duke is putting together. Let's keep it going and keep the momentum on this rolling. Greg,

When does this start. :D :D :D

Im going for the triple In the main event,And I have won multiple leagues the last two year's????


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Post by RI WORKHORSE » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:19 pm

Greg, Another thing I would Like to see is how many league champs come from what states...I don't know how many other guys would care But would be interesting......


Thanks
Johnny
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Post by renman » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:57 pm

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
quote:Originally posted by renman:
Again, if you are rewarding the "top dog" is the top dog the team who was the best all season or the team who got lucky in a head 2 head playoff game?
For this league's purposes in 2005, it is the team who was crowned champion.

Not saying I agree with it, and I have a feeling that is why the format was changed, but the best team DOES NOT always win (Colts in 2005).

Trust me, I dealt with this firsthand this year in a satellite league.

I have been on BOTH sides of the coin MANY times, and again, it may not be fair, but as we tell middle schoolers here.....

LIFE ISN'T FAIR....GET USED TO IT! ;)
[/QUOTE]Waz,

I understand and totally agree with you. Some leagues have formats that factor in luck more than skill. I get that and as it relates to winning or losing the league and whatever prizes are involved, one has to be fine with it if they joined the league knowing the rules.

However, for this ranking system, you do not have to blindly follow rules that reward luck over real accomplishment. That league (or any others like it), regardless what was at stake, or how much first prize was, or what format was used at the end to create a crapshoot winning champion, we all know that total points is the best way to determine who did best in that league. Head 2 head record for the season would be second. The team who wins a 3 week total point playoff would be third, and coming in a distant forth would be a team who made it through a luck driven head 2 head elimination playoff.

All the players in those leagues are top players or past champions. So anyone winning the total points race in one of those leagues should be rewarded for it if you are going to come up with a NFFC lifetime standings list. being a totalk point champion in a CHAMPIONS invitational only league seems like a better accomplishment than even winning a regular NFFC main event league where you have no idea what quality players are in the league. Thats all I am saying.

You guys will do what you want to anyway...lol Just throwing out points and ideas...

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