2007 Draft Slots ~ presented by UFS

Ted's Cracked Head · Post by **Ted's Cracked Head** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:08 pm

Note: weeks 14-16 will take much more time because the Playoff totals are skewed because they include that dang avg. I need to pull each week, put them into a sheet and ad them for each team and them splice them into the other chart.

This will take more than tonight.

ultimatefs · Post by **ultimatefs** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:12 pm

Originally posted by Ted's Cracked Head:
quote: Please don't post Week 9 info. It doesn't mean anything. Just look at how the info has already changed from Week 6 to Week 8.
My first thought was that I shouldn't (see above) but now that every team has had there bye, it might be OK and I will update it later this year anyway.

How can I say no to GG?

[/QUOTE]There were byes Week 10 last two years.

Put down the mouse you stataholic.

ultimatefs · Post by **ultimatefs** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:13 pm

Originally posted by Ted's Cracked Head:
quote: Ted, always good stuff and great effort! Worth a Corona or 12? [/QUOTE]This is where Greg makes empty promises because he drank them all.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:13 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:
Someone with an agenda. you're someone with very little (or no) training/knowledge in analysis of data. thanks.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:17 pm

Originally posted by Ted's Cracked Head:
My first thought was that I shouldn't (see above) but now that every team has had there bye, it might be OK and I will update it later this year anyway.exactly my point. also, why are people (UFS and wettingman) afraid of using the most applicable data (2005 and 2006)?

Originally posted by Ted's Cracked Head:
How can I say no to GG?

[ November 08, 2006, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

ultimatefs · Post by **ultimatefs** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:23 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by sportsbettingman:
Someone with an agenda. you're someone with very little (or no) training/knowledge in analysis of data. thanks. [/QUOTE]I have 7 years of data in hoops that says 3rr would work.

The argument back then was about 3x as bad because player performances are more definable in hoops.

The argument has vanished since then.

3rr would work best for FB. Owens or Wayne to LT and LJ, or Owens and Wayne to Portis and Westbrook?

That right there evens things out.

This is a no brainer. It ends the debate about which pick is best.

With any bidding system, any owners that feel pts/faab is more vauable not spent before the draft will never get to pick 1-5. Never.

That is not a fair allocation of draft slots.

[ November 08, 2006, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: UFS ]

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:39 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by sportsbettingman:
Someone with an agenda. you're someone with very little (or no) training/knowledge in analysis of data. thanks. [/QUOTE]Common sense is all I need to tell me you do have an agenda in your request...and that I would not put ANY weight in 1 1/2 seasons worth of data. (Way too small)

~Lance

kjduke · Post by **kjduke** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:41 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:
thx for the analysis Ted, but as I've said before, using data from the entire draft creates irrelevant statistical noise. After 4 rounds it's a free for all, slot doesn't mean much.

I'd be interested in seeing scoring from the first 4 rounds (with injuries notated); that is where slots makes a difference. i'm not sure i buy that. noise (if random) should be equally distributed between all draft slots, correct? [/QUOTE]Over a large enough population it would even out, but random error in a small sample size can be highly significant in skewing data.

If Colston is selected in the 15th round by the team drafting from slot #14, does that say anything about the value of that slot? I don't think it does, all slot positions had many opportunities to draft him. It wouldn't necessarily even out.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:45 pm

Originally posted by Ted's Cracked Head:
quote: Ted, always good stuff and great effort! Worth a Corona or 12? [/QUOTE]I'm ready for a Corona right now. Keep it going Rob as your data is the best. As for the rest of this thread, it's good reading for a guy who is tending to the sick. I don't mind any new ideas, even if I do form my own opinions before the static hits!

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:46 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:
Common sense is all I need to tell me you do have an agenda in your request... my agenda is to use the most applicable data. thank you very much