YTD ADP & Actual Positional Ranks

Sandman62 · Post by **Sandman62** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:35 am

Yeah Rob, but your team must've ROCKED 3 years ago!?

[ January 01, 2011, 10:04 AM: Message edited by: Sandman62 ]

Ted's Cracked Head · Post by **Ted's Cracked Head** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:43 am

Yeah Rob, but your team must've ROCKED 3 years ago!?
Yikes. The old men did pretty well this year until they each faded or crapped the bed altogether down the stretch.

Good thing I at least drafted young RBs like Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas to carry my team.

Sandman62 · Post by **Sandman62** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:18 am

Pretty ironic that among those 4 WRs, MOSS was the weak link. Truly a crazy year.

Sandman62 · Post by **Sandman62** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:32 pm

Here's this year's 2011 NFFC ADP vs. Actual Position Player Ranks through 13 weeks, with ADP data based on 12 games. Enjoy!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/2/9/3 ... 0Ranks.mht

Observations:
QB
1. Aside from Peyton Manning not playing and Vick getting injured, the rest of the top 10 drafted QBs performed pretty much as expected.
• If you spent an early pick on Vick, it’s very likely your team didn’t make the playoffs (unless you had a quality backup).
• Unless you feel very lucky and think you can land the next Newton or Stafford (and not get stuck with the next Freeman, Bradford, Flacco, Kolb, etc., who were all drafted around the same time), then drafting a top-10 QB is still one of the safest and most reliable picks, especially the perennial top 3 (Rodgers, Brees, Brady).
2. Eli Manning quietly continues to outperform his ADP year after year.
3. This year’s new surprise marginal starters (in 12 or 14-team leagues) who were drafted in the mid-late rounds:
• Sanchez, Fitzpatrick, Dalton, Alex Smith.

RB
1. I’d guess there aren’t too many playoff teams who drafted Charles, CJ2K or DMac, given how early they had to pick them and what they got out of them.
• Even Mendenhall, Hillis, Felix, Best, Bradshaw and Blount didn’t return anywhere near what they cost on draft day (though likely not as damaging as the first group).
2. RB continues to be volatile, unreliable and unpredictable.
• Of the top 10 drafted RBs, barely half (6) rewarded fantasy teams for such early picks by producing at that level.
• The next 10 RBs had about a 50:50 mix of busts vs. reliable.
3. Steals of the draft:
• FJax, Sproles and Lynch, producing at 6th , 8th and 9th after 13 weeks.
• Beanie and Reggie also provided good value.
4. Waiver wire wonders (or at least late-round flier “lottery” picks):
• Michael Bush and Demarco Murray.

WR
1. I’d guess there aren’t too many playoff teams who drafted Andre or Miles, given how early they had to pick them and what they got out of them.
• Even Roddy, Fitz, Nicks, Wayne, Bowe, DeSean, Mike Williams and Santonio didn’t return anywhere near what they cost on draft day (though likely not as damaging as the first group).
2. WR continues to be volatile, unreliable and unpredictable.
• Of the top 10 drafted WRs, barely half (6) rewarded fantasy teams for such early picks by producing at that level.
• The next 10 WRs had about a 50:50 mix of busts vs. reliable.
3. Steals of the draft:
• Welker, Cruz, Steve Smith (CAR), Jordy Nelson, producing at 1st, 4th, 6th and 7th after 13 weeks.
• Percy, A.J. Green, Garcon, Washington and Robinson also provided good value.
4. Waiver wire wonders (or at least late-round flier “lottery” picks):
• Cruz and Robinson.

TE
1. TE, which has historically been reliable at the top tier, joins RB and WR as volatile, unreliable and unpredictable.
• Of the top 10 drafted TEs, barely half (6) rewarded fantasy teams for such early picks by producing at that level.
- Even still, production lacked expectations for Gates, Finley, Vernon, Daniels and Pettigrew.
• The next 10 TEs had about a 50:50 mix of busts vs. reliable.
2. Something old and something new?
• Old – Witten was his usual ol’ reliable and blast from the past Gonzo outperformed expectations.
• New – Big, strong 2nd year TEs took over, as Gronk and Graham vaulted to the top.
3. Raise your hand if you drafted Dallas Clark in early round 5 because you believed the press and coaches that suggested that Peyton would only miss a couple-few games? As if that wasn’t bad enough, Clark also missed 4 or 5 games due to injury. And seeing most owners wait quite late to draft a TE2 when they draft a top-tier one like this, they probably got pitiful production from the TE spot all year, as there are seldom good TEs available on the waiver wire.
4. Fred Davis [quietly?] produced as the TE5 and Dustin Keller at 10, despite being drafted 26th and 18th, respectively.
5. Yes, it turns out that Marcedes Lewis was a one-hit TD wonder last year and due to a combination of his fresh contract and his awful QB, he barely cracked the top 30 TEs.

[ December 06, 2011, 08:53 PM: Message edited by: Sandman62 ]

Money · Post by **Money** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:52 pm

Originally posted by Sandman62:
Here's this year's 2011 NFFC ADP vs. Actual Position Player Ranks through 13 weeks, with ADP data based on 12 teams. Enjoy!

Observations:
QB
1. Aside from Peyton Manning not playing and Vick getting injured, the rest of the top 10 drafted QBs performed pretty much as expected.
• If you spent an early pick on Vick, it’s very likely your team didn’t make the playoffs (unless you had a quality backup).
• Unless you feel very lucky and think you can land the next Newton or Stafford (and not get stuck with the next Freeman, Bradford, Flacco, Kolb, etc., who were all drafted around the same time), then drafting a top-10 QB is still one of the safest and most reliable picks, especially the perennial top 3 (Rodgers, Brees, Brady).
2. Eli Manning quietly continues to outperform his ADP year after year.
3. This year’s new surprise marginal starters (in 12 or 14-team leagues) who were drafted in the mid-late rounds:
• Sanchez, Fitzpatrick, Dalton, Alex Smith.

RB
1. I’d guess there aren’t too many playoff teams who drafted Charles, CJ2K or DMac, given how early they had to pick them and what they got out of them.
• Even Mendenhall, Hillis, Felix, Best, Bradshaw and Blount didn’t return anywhere near what they cost on draft day (though likely not as damaging as the first group).
2. RB continues to be volatile, unreliable and unpredictable.
• Of the top 10 drafted RBs, barely half (6) rewarded fantasy teams for such early picks by producing at that level.
• The next 10 RBs had about a 50:50 mix of busts vs. reliable.
3. Steals of the draft:
• FJax, Sproles and Lynch, producing at 6th , 8th and 9th after 13 weeks.
• Beanie and Reggie also provided good value.
4. Waiver wire wonders (or at least late-round flier “lottery” picks):
• Michael Bush and Demarco Murray.

WR
1. I’d guess there aren’t too many playoff teams who drafted Andre or Miles, given how early they had to pick them and what they got out of them.
• Even Roddy, Fitz, Nicks, Wayne, Bowe, DeSean, Mike Williams and Santonio didn’t return anywhere near what they cost on draft day (though likely not as damaging as the first group).
2. WR continues to be volatile, unreliable and unpredictable.
• Of the top 10 drafted WRs, barely half (6) rewarded fantasy teams for such early picks by producing at that level.
• The next 10 WRs had about a 50:50 mix of busts vs. reliable.
3. Steals of the draft:
• Welker, Cruz, Steve Smith (CAR), Jordy Nelson, producing at 1st, 4th, 6th and 7th after 13 weeks.
• Percy, A.J. Green, Garcon, Washington and Robinson also provided good value.
4. Waiver wire wonders (or at least late-round flier “lottery” picks):
• Cruz and Robinson.

TE
1. TE, which has historically been reliable at the top tier, joins RB and WR as volatile, unreliable and unpredictable.
• Of the top 10 drafted TEs, barely half (6) rewarded fantasy teams for such early picks by producing at that level.
- Even still, production lacked expectations for Gates, Finley, Vernon, Daniels and Pettigrew.
• The next 10 TEs had about a 50:50 mix of busts vs. reliable.
2. Something old and something new?
• Old – Witten was his usual ol’ reliable and blast from the past Gonzo outperformed expectations.
• New – Big, strong 2nd year TEs took over, as Gronk and Graham vaulted to the top.
3. Raise your hand if you drafted Dallas Clark in early round 5 because you believed the press and coaches that suggested that Peyton would only miss a couple-few games? As if that wasn’t bad enough, Clark also missed 4 or 5 games due to injury. And seeing most owners wait quite late to draft a TE2 when they draft a top-tier one like this, they probably got pitiful production from the TE spot all year, as there are seldom good TEs available on the waiver wire.
4. Fred Davis [quietly?] produced as the TE5 and Dustin Keller at 10, despite being drafted 26th and 18th, respectively.
5. Yes, it turns out that Marcedes Lewis was a one-hit TD wonder last year and due to a combination of his fresh contract and his awful QB, he barely cracked the top 30 TEs. Awesome, Awesome stuff. I can't imagine any fantasy fanatic not loving this information and commentary. I remember it from last year and this year is just as good.

Thanks for posting Mr. Sandman.....

BLACKHAND · Post by **BLACKHAND** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:25 am

props to ya mike. real nice job.

Sandman62 · Post by **Sandman62** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:28 am

Thanks guys.

TOMDOG · Post by **TOMDOG** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:49 am

Excellent job Sandman,thank you much.