Thoughts On Point Reception Leagues

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:19 pm

Originally posted by UFS:
quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
quote:Originally posted by UFS:
quote:Rosters should be 20 during 6-team bye weeks, 18 in the others. [/QUOTE]You're a smart man John, but how do you propose that??? You'd allow owners to add two players before Week 6 and then drop two players after Week 7? And what happens if everyone doesn't comply? Nothing against the idea, but it doesn't seem feasible to change the setup during the season. Adding two players for the playoffs seems easier than this proposal. [/QUOTE]I'm doing it right now.

We increased rosters by 2 for this week.

Before the start of Week 8, we will set max back, and no owner can make a transaction (faab here) AND/OR lineup change until they waive down to the limit.

For NFFC, this would require a waive option on the lineup screen. This would be easy for stats to add to the pull down menu or create a button for it.

If an owner doesn't FAAB or make a lineup change, then NFFC removes the two players it signed. I doubt it will get that far with Week 8/9 byes, but you need to cover all bases. [/QUOTE]Fair enough. Interesting. I don't think I'd like to go down that path, but glad to hear it works with your game. The six teams on byes this week is an interesting wrinkle the NFL threw out this year and I'm sure it will continue going forward. Dealing with it is a worthy debate for another thread.

Now, about that point per reception concept....

mikeybok · Post by **mikeybok** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:38 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
Now, about that point per reception concept.... LMAO ... so ... what were we talking about again?

I love the point per reception.

I think at most ... the RB should get a 1/2 point.

To me the debate is should we take away the half point from the RB's or not.

RB's still out shine the WR's in the draft. Taking away the 1/2 point might just be what lets a top WR crack the top five draft spots. Why shouldn't one be up there? A QB can make it there.

Shrink Attack · Post by **Shrink Attack** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:21 pm

Originally posted by Ugly Yellow Tomatoes:
quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
Now, about that point per reception concept.... LMAO ... so ... what were we talking about again?

I love the point per reception.

I think at most ... the RB should get a 1/2 point.

To me the debate is should we take away the half point from the RB's or not.

RB's still out shine the WR's in the draft. Taking away the 1/2 point might just be what lets a top WR crack the top five draft spots. Why shouldn't one be up there? A QB can make it there. [/QUOTE]That's an interesting idea. Taking the ppr from RB's could really level the playing field between RB's and WR's as far as the draft goes. You'd see a wide variety of strategies at the draft tables and debates on the MB's about RB-RB vs. WR-WR vs. RB-WR vs. WR-RB.

Another added twist (although I am NOT suggesting this) would be to also make QB's more valuable as an earlier draft option as well. For instance, if QB's were part of the FLEX option, it would instantly become more desirable to have two good QB's on your roster. This would move them up the draft board considerably, creating even more variability at the draft table with different QB/RB/WR strategies being implemented in the earlier Rounds.

As it stands now in this 14-team format, most of the RB talent is sucked dry by Round 2 and the top WR talent is gone by Round 3 or 4. The kind of changes mentioned above could result in considerable talent still being available at these positions in Round 5 or even later.

Just food for thought, not a suggestion.

D-Day Heroes · Post by **D-Day Heroes** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:23 pm

If your going to add another catagory, let it be for something important, say like first down conversions, this is a stat that gets little recognition and yet it makes all the difference in how well an offence is performing. I don't know if STATS.inc keeps track of such a stat for individuals, but if they do , I would definitly vote for it being 1 pt per conversion.

D-Day Heroes · Post by **D-Day Heroes** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:27 pm

and yes, running backs should get the full point for a reception.

BubbasHouse · Post by **BubbasHouse** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:44 pm

Bubba thoughts:

1/2 PPR for RB's - Good; I think the 1/2 point is as perfect as it gets.

Expand 18 man roster - Bad; 18 man rosters forces tough decisions for fielding full teams - both at draft and free agency; Part of the whole strategy differentiation between owners.

Route Collectors · Post by **Route Collectors** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:37 pm

Greg.....I like the PPR and 1/2PPR you currently have in place. Now that I've answered your question, is there a plan in place to expand rosters for the playoffs?

D-Day Heroes · Post by **D-Day Heroes** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:42 pm

reason I say running backs should get the full point is this. The days of 25 + carries for rbs are numbered. You have 3rd down backs, short yardage backs, receiving backs, running backs by committee, and now with reggie bush, you will start seeing a whole new back, ones that line up behind and alongside the line. Because of all these reasons, I think the RB is getting short changed by not getting the full point.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:47 pm

Nice thread...

My opinions...

Seems to me both Greg and Toms posts point in the direction that zero PPR for RB's would not be a bad thing.

I feel a catch is a catch...make them all 1 or .5 or zero...who cares where you lined up to start the play!

Is the goal to have WR's and TE's glossing the covers of the next years FFB magazines instead of RB's?

Why not let QB's get 6 pts for a touchdown and back off the scoring on their yardage...a TD is a TD...and we only start ONE! (no flex option). I think rewarding first downs is overkill.

Twenty man rosters would be great...it would not impact the waiver pool much...there will always be people who give up on talented players too soon in search of the next two week wonder. I love that extra bench space, and would love 22 or more if possible. We start 10...have 6 teams on bye multiple times...brutal new schedule. Every single NFL injury impacts potential roster shifts and new players emerge or re-emerge into the spotlight. With all of the coaching changes each season...who knows which players the new coaching staffs will like...it sure the hell won't be the exact same as the previous regime.

Like I said...nice to read FFB stuff on the NFFC boards again!

~Lance

[ October 12, 2006, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

ultimatefs · Post by **ultimatefs** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:10 pm

To me the debate is should we take away the half point from the RB's or not. [/QB]I agree 100% on this.

Kevin Barlow -1 rushing -1 rec = +0.3 :rolleyes: