Let's Try To Fix the Big Boston Classic Draft Mixup

The Franchise · Post by **The Franchise** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:49 pm

Originally posted by FF Addict:
I'm not involved in the main event, but IMO the best way to make this better would be to:

1. Drop the IR players before week one and replace with the next available free agent with the same position based on the ADP list that was used to draft the team (to be consistent with the decision to use ADP). Keep Rice, VJax and any other suspended or injured players not on IR.

2. Find a reliable owner (or original owner if Greg believes he is reliable) to manage the team for the year who will correct the rest of the roster problems in the first free agent bidding.

3. Address this in the rules for next year. Preferrably have some reputable standby owners willing to draft and manage the team if necessary. This has been my opinion all along. In the end it's not for us to decide.

Jim Wiseheart · Post by **Jim Wiseheart** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:57 pm

I would also amend my post and say that I wouldn't fill the IR drops with the same position. I would say that having a valid week 1 lineup should be the goal. I would replace RB Tate with next WR on ADP list.

Coltsfan · Post by **Coltsfan** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:58 pm

I remember 2 years ago in Chicago we had a team absolutely pick out of magazine but the big problem was that it had to have been a magazine from a different. Anyways, there was a big tiff about how unbalanced everything was because of this team. Well it really didn't make much of a difference in the long run. And I promise his team didn't look half as good as the auto draft team here.

My suggestion is simple - ask the owner of the team to manage it from here on out. If he can't or won't then ask him if he knows somebody else who would like to manage the team.

We have to keep in mind that we can't create rules on the fly. Greg and Tom can be sued for changing rules mid stream. I really don't see this as an issue and I don't feel like I"m at any kind of disadvantage in chicago because of this. If nothing else this takes Sidney Rice out of the picture in this league as he could be a huge game changer come weeks 14-16.

Wayne

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:59 pm

Frank, you did all you could, thank you again for stepping up to the plate and doing so. The advantage in the overall may not end up to be much, or minimal, whatever you want to call it, as it is very hard to quantify, and my point was not to make it any worse by giving an additional tick of advantage.

I'm with you FF Addict. And again, even if nothing is none as far as a special drop/add (or two or three), a smart owner can do his best strategically to save the team as soon as possible and make it fair. Week 1 is the only sour spot.

boutrous11 · Post by **boutrous11** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:59 pm

i can run the team... (i don't have another main event team.)

BLACKHAND · Post by **BLACKHAND** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:12 pm

wayne its good to talk to you without drafting against you in a dc.

the owner is eric lindgram the poker player. something tells me he wont be into it come week 7 or 8 and more problems will come. i think he should put us all in the world series of poker next year. thats the ticket.

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:17 pm

Frank, let him pay for your buy-in- when you get there sit down, and then immediately leave, and let the $10,000 get blinded out eventually like he did to you yesterday.

BLACKHAND · Post by **BLACKHAND** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:22 pm

shiitt , i will put my sunglass on and a suite for the week and what goes on in vegas stays in vegas.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:50 pm

I've now read this entire thread as well as the original thread and have a few thoughts.

First & foremost, I think we should restrain from questioning the integrity of the players at the draft. Whether they tried to correct what was going on or thought they were lucky with what was going on really doesn't matter one way or the other. They've done absolutely nothing wrong.

I also think it wrong to berate anyone giving an opinion on the situation just because you may not agree with it. This situation affects all of us. This is an overall contest that we've all paid good money to take part in. Anything questionable that MAY affect the outcome of the race deserves scrutiny. I believe we all can agree this situation more than fits under the definition of questionable.

The administrators on hand are also taking a lot of grief. I don't know Todd, but I met Seth at the baseball drafts in March and he seemed like a great guy who really gave a sh*t about what he was doing and the event itself. He didn't seem to me the kind of person to make haphazard shoot from the hip decisions that could have major consequence. I find it hard to believe that he would go forward with a course of action unless he felt it was the rules. However, I just reviewed the rules and there is no procedure outlined for this type of occurance. My gut tells me that the standard procedure and written rules utilized for online drafts were utilized as the SOP here. It states that if an owner does not make his pick in the allotted time, he will be awarded the next available player on "Fanball's standard ranking list". Should common sense have prevailed? I believe yes. Still, let's not condemn the administrators for doing what they obviously felt was right and what they obviously felt were the rules.

I think the only person truly at fault here is the owner who didn't bother showing up for the draft and did so without warning. He obviously didn't care enough about it to even make a call.

All that said, I think it obvious that this impacts both the league itself and the overall contest. To say it doesn't seems to me a bit naive. The question isn't whether it does, the question is how great or small the impact.

In my Primetime league, one owner drafted three defenses in the first 14 rounds, another drafted Montario Hardesty, another drafted Lynell Hamilton. I apologize in advance if you're reading this and you were one of the owners who made these choices or if it was a strategy utilized elsewhere by anyone not in my league.....but in my mind, certainly some questionable moves. Believe me, these weren't the only questionable moves I saw in this league or other leagues while walking around the draft room. Do moves like these make the other teams in the league stronger? Of course. Do they compromise the integrity of the event? No.

I believe the same can be said here. Though these draft choices are awful, I think the appearance is greater because they're all on one team. I challenge anyone in any draft to not see several moves made by other drafters that you felt were very questionable, maybe if added up as many as were found on this team. Yes, Ben Tate or Donnie Avery probably wouldn't have been drafted in most leagues, but who would have thought Lynell Hamilton would have been? Though the impact to the overall is there, after much thought I agree with those that say it isn't as great as it can be perceived.

However, the impact to the league itself is enormous. Those that play this team while it has no receivers are at a tremendous & obvious advantage. The remedy put forth allowing this team to pick up enough players to start a complete team prior to week one dropping all players on season ending IR makes too much sense not to be implemented. This is a decision ultimately for others to make, but I believe it is the fairest one put forth thus far.

One last thing, if the no-show owner continues to run this team, don't be surprised if teams facing him later in the season don't have a very similar advantage.

Glenn

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:17 pm

Intelligent post, as always Glenn. Let me just throw one additional minor point. I'm guessing Hardesty, S.Rice, Tate, Hamilton, etc. went really late in the draft in those leagues you mention seeing, or at least later than before they got hurt. In this Boston draft they went about as early as if the injuries never happened I believe. Earlier draft slots obviously have much more value. Let's face it, we'd both donate our left nut for an extra 5th rounder or 7th, or 8th where these injured guys were going while who cares if a 14th rounder is out for the year. Oh well, darn, it was a flyer anyway.

Just saying. It wasn't as bad as if someone came in and was like "Hey guys, I'm a big Rams fan, I'm taking all Rams today. leave SJax for me please at #9." Anyway, we are still right around the same spot as far as having an opinion of what should be done or not done, like many are saying. Thanks for thoughtfully chiming in.