after Nag and Zola's posts... good luck James !
[ October 22, 2009, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: Quahogs ]
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after Nag and Zola's posts... good luck James !
[ October 22, 2009, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: Quahogs ]
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Originally posted by Quahogs:
To break a tie within the division:
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
bingo! unleash der hunds Those have been in factor in recent years. I'm sure Nag can find them in seconds
No way in hell should any coach consider running the clock out until about the mid 3rd. Too much CAN happen in a game and the paying fans, especially the season ticket holders that pay for only EIGHT REGULAR season games DESERVE to see the players they like BEST play the most.
[ October 22, 2009, 04:30 PM: Message edited by: FantasyFactor ]
To break a tie within the division:
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
bingo! unleash der hunds Those have been in factor in recent years. I'm sure Nag can find them in seconds
No way in hell should any coach consider running the clock out until about the mid 3rd. Too much CAN happen in a game and the paying fans, especially the season ticket holders that pay for only EIGHT REGULAR season games DESERVE to see the players they like BEST play the most.
[ October 22, 2009, 04:30 PM: Message edited by: FantasyFactor ]
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I have to get something off my chest.
Michael Edelman ran up the score on me, and I'm still pissed about it. This is the second time that I had the second or third highest score in my League, only to get a loss.
I need a Lawyer, Jack I will be calling you.
Past Sunday at 4:00 PM in The Reuss House:
Son: Dad why did you just throw the remote?
Me: Michael Edelman player just scored again.
Son: The is no game on.
ME: I'm to sick to watch any more, I just know his player scored another TD.
John
[ October 22, 2009, 05:20 PM: Message edited by: Raiders ]
Michael Edelman ran up the score on me, and I'm still pissed about it. This is the second time that I had the second or third highest score in my League, only to get a loss.
I need a Lawyer, Jack I will be calling you.
Past Sunday at 4:00 PM in The Reuss House:
Son: Dad why did you just throw the remote?
Me: Michael Edelman player just scored again.
Son: The is no game on.
ME: I'm to sick to watch any more, I just know his player scored another TD.
John
[ October 22, 2009, 05:20 PM: Message edited by: Raiders ]
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Originally posted by Todd Zola:
[QB] It was 10-0 at the beginning of the 2nd quarter. A second quarter where everything went right for one team and everything wrong for the other had it at 38-0, Pats ball, right around the 2-minute warning.
What should the Patriots have done at this point?
They should have shifted into a conservative, clock running mode like every single other NFL team would have done
Put in the backup QB? I think telling another professional NFL team they have no chance of winning before the first half even ends is FAR MORE unsportsmanlike than playing hard.
Even with the starting QB they could have played that game situation the proper way with proper sportsmanship as opposed to making clear efforts to pad stats
So should they have just run the ball, already having lost their top-2 RB (Taylor and Morris) and hope to grind out a couple of first downs, taking the chance of punting in a snowstorm, where something can go wrong with the snap - or perhaps a return TD giving the Titans something positive as they head into the locker room? Is a 38-7 deficit at halftime completely insurmountable?
38-0, in a blizzard, against a dead team that had quit is an insurmountable lead and if by chance this team started to show signs of life in the second half the Patriots obviously would have been right to attack again.
Or do they play their game -- which on this day was Brady to Moss and Brady to Welker.
So now it is the beginning of the 3rd quarter and it is 45-0. Starting the second half with the backup QB is explainable - protecting Brady's health, so the unsportsmanlike spin is not as strong an argument as it was ending the first half. On the other hand, perhaps Tennessee is going to give Vince Young a shot and they already have a RB in Chris Johnson who is a threat to score every time he touches the ball. So in an effort to tell the Titans "don't even think about it", they keep Brady in and he of course leads them on another TD drive, heads to the sidelines, takes off his helmet and puts on a baseball cap, signifying his work day is done.
In a vacuum, without 2007 in the rear view mirror, is this scenario that egregious? Is it that low-class?
To me, and most of my NFL friends and colleagues, any many NFL media personalities, yes. And 2007 needs to be in the rearview mirror as that is part of why this act was interpreted that way. Had this team not done this in the past, this past Sunday would be viewed as an isolated incident.
As for any other teams doing similarly, how many teams have arguably one of the best QB and one of the best WR ever to play the game on the field, at the same time, in an era where passing is more prominent than running? No other teams have done this is as much because they are not capable as anything. I think suggesting 31 other teams do not do this because they are class organizations is myopic if not naive. They don't do it because they CAN'T do it. The prefect storm of having an unreal QB-WR duo along with a defense holding another team's offense to no points -- how often does that scenario even exist?
If the Patriots are such a classless organization, why do seasoned veterans, who would obviously be aware of this label if it existed within the NFL itself, continue to sign on with the team? Why don't players that leave the team, some against their will, come out and chastise the organization. If the organization is so classless, why is the front office and coaching staff annually raided by other teams? Why is the owner, Bob Kraft allowed on so many important NFL committees if he is in charge of a classless organization.
Could it be because within the circles that really count, they are not considered classless?
Hmm.
As it relates to running up the score, they are classless. As it relates to paying players millions of dollars, and having a nice facility, and having a nice culture for players and CURRENTLY being a winning franchise that would and could give veteren players the chance at a super bowl, they are perfectly classy.
This post is another example of how off on tangents simple points and discussions go here. This (my lone point) is 100% about the Patriots being the only team in the NFL that would be running a 4 wide, no huddle offensive set with 1:16 to go in a blizzard against a dead, winless team that had quit with the score 38-0. Every other NFL team (IF in that situation) would be handing it off to a 3rd string RB and running clock to get off the field. They then come out in the second half and do it again. Whether other teams are good enough currently to do this is not relevant. Over the last 20 years many teams have been good enough.
I simply came here daring to have the option that it was in poor form to be running that kind of attack offense at 1:16 in that kind of game situation and then to do it again to come out for the 3rd quarter. They did the same thing 2 years ago. No team in the last 20 years has come close to doing anything like it. Many NFL insiders talked about this in 2007. You would think I kicked someones puppy off a cliff based on some of the reactions to me daring to have this opinion.
[ October 22, 2009, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: Renman ]
[QB] It was 10-0 at the beginning of the 2nd quarter. A second quarter where everything went right for one team and everything wrong for the other had it at 38-0, Pats ball, right around the 2-minute warning.
What should the Patriots have done at this point?
They should have shifted into a conservative, clock running mode like every single other NFL team would have done
Put in the backup QB? I think telling another professional NFL team they have no chance of winning before the first half even ends is FAR MORE unsportsmanlike than playing hard.
Even with the starting QB they could have played that game situation the proper way with proper sportsmanship as opposed to making clear efforts to pad stats
So should they have just run the ball, already having lost their top-2 RB (Taylor and Morris) and hope to grind out a couple of first downs, taking the chance of punting in a snowstorm, where something can go wrong with the snap - or perhaps a return TD giving the Titans something positive as they head into the locker room? Is a 38-7 deficit at halftime completely insurmountable?
38-0, in a blizzard, against a dead team that had quit is an insurmountable lead and if by chance this team started to show signs of life in the second half the Patriots obviously would have been right to attack again.
Or do they play their game -- which on this day was Brady to Moss and Brady to Welker.
So now it is the beginning of the 3rd quarter and it is 45-0. Starting the second half with the backup QB is explainable - protecting Brady's health, so the unsportsmanlike spin is not as strong an argument as it was ending the first half. On the other hand, perhaps Tennessee is going to give Vince Young a shot and they already have a RB in Chris Johnson who is a threat to score every time he touches the ball. So in an effort to tell the Titans "don't even think about it", they keep Brady in and he of course leads them on another TD drive, heads to the sidelines, takes off his helmet and puts on a baseball cap, signifying his work day is done.
In a vacuum, without 2007 in the rear view mirror, is this scenario that egregious? Is it that low-class?
To me, and most of my NFL friends and colleagues, any many NFL media personalities, yes. And 2007 needs to be in the rearview mirror as that is part of why this act was interpreted that way. Had this team not done this in the past, this past Sunday would be viewed as an isolated incident.
As for any other teams doing similarly, how many teams have arguably one of the best QB and one of the best WR ever to play the game on the field, at the same time, in an era where passing is more prominent than running? No other teams have done this is as much because they are not capable as anything. I think suggesting 31 other teams do not do this because they are class organizations is myopic if not naive. They don't do it because they CAN'T do it. The prefect storm of having an unreal QB-WR duo along with a defense holding another team's offense to no points -- how often does that scenario even exist?
If the Patriots are such a classless organization, why do seasoned veterans, who would obviously be aware of this label if it existed within the NFL itself, continue to sign on with the team? Why don't players that leave the team, some against their will, come out and chastise the organization. If the organization is so classless, why is the front office and coaching staff annually raided by other teams? Why is the owner, Bob Kraft allowed on so many important NFL committees if he is in charge of a classless organization.
Could it be because within the circles that really count, they are not considered classless?
Hmm.
As it relates to running up the score, they are classless. As it relates to paying players millions of dollars, and having a nice facility, and having a nice culture for players and CURRENTLY being a winning franchise that would and could give veteren players the chance at a super bowl, they are perfectly classy.
This post is another example of how off on tangents simple points and discussions go here. This (my lone point) is 100% about the Patriots being the only team in the NFL that would be running a 4 wide, no huddle offensive set with 1:16 to go in a blizzard against a dead, winless team that had quit with the score 38-0. Every other NFL team (IF in that situation) would be handing it off to a 3rd string RB and running clock to get off the field. They then come out in the second half and do it again. Whether other teams are good enough currently to do this is not relevant. Over the last 20 years many teams have been good enough.
I simply came here daring to have the option that it was in poor form to be running that kind of attack offense at 1:16 in that kind of game situation and then to do it again to come out for the 3rd quarter. They did the same thing 2 years ago. No team in the last 20 years has come close to doing anything like it. Many NFL insiders talked about this in 2007. You would think I kicked someones puppy off a cliff based on some of the reactions to me daring to have this opinion.
[ October 22, 2009, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: Renman ]
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Originally posted by Renman:
Originally posted by Todd Zola:
[QB] It was 10-0 at the beginning of the 2nd quarter. A second quarter where everything went right for one team and everything wrong for the other had it at 38-0, Pats ball, right around the 2-minute warning.
What should the Patriots have done at this point?
They should have shifted into a conservative, clock running mode like every single other NFL team would have done
Put in the backup QB? I think telling another professional NFL team they have no chance of winning before the first half even ends is FAR MORE unsportsmanlike than playing hard.
Even with the starting QB they could have played that game situation the proper way with proper sportsmanship as opposed to making clear efforts to pad stats
So should they have just run the ball, already having lost their top-2 RB (Taylor and Morris) and hope to grind out a couple of first downs, taking the chance of punting in a snowstorm, where something can go wrong with the snap - or perhaps a return TD giving the Titans something positive as they head into the locker room? Is a 38-7 deficit at halftime completely insurmountable?
38-0, in a blizzard, against a dead team that had quit is an insurmountable lead and if by chance this team started to show signs of life in the second half the Patriots obviously would have been right to attack again.
Or do they play their game -- which on this day was Brady to Moss and Brady to Welker.
So now it is the beginning of the 3rd quarter and it is 45-0. Starting the second half with the backup QB is explainable - protecting Brady's health, so the unsportsmanlike spin is not as strong an argument as it was ending the first half. On the other hand, perhaps Tennessee is going to give Vince Young a shot and they already have a RB in Chris Johnson who is a threat to score every time he touches the ball. So in an effort to tell the Titans "don't even think about it", they keep Brady in and he of course leads them on another TD drive, heads to the sidelines, takes off his helmet and puts on a baseball cap, signifying his work day is done.
In a vacuum, without 2007 in the rear view mirror, is this scenario that egregious? Is it that low-class?
To me, and most of my NFL friends and colleagues, any many NFL media personalities, yes. And 2007 needs to be in the rearview mirror as that is part of why this act was interpreted that way. Had this team not done this in the past, this past Sunday would be viewed as an isolated incident.
As for any other teams doing similarly, how many teams have arguably one of the best QB and one of the best WR ever to play the game on the field, at the same time, in an era where passing is more prominent than running? No other teams have done this is as much because they are not capable as anything. I think suggesting 31 other teams do not do this because they are class organizations is myopic if not naive. They don't do it because they CAN'T do it. The prefect storm of having an unreal QB-WR duo along with a defense holding another team's offense to no points -- how often does that scenario even exist?
If the Patriots are such a classless organization, why do seasoned veterans, who would obviously be aware of this label if it existed within the NFL itself, continue to sign on with the team? Why don't players that leave the team, some against their will, come out and chastise the organization. If the organization is so classless, why is the front office and coaching staff annually raided by other teams? Why is the owner, Bob Kraft allowed on so many important NFL committees if he is in charge of a classless organization.
Could it be because within the circles that really count, they are not considered classless?
Hmm.
As it relates to running up the score, they are classless. As it relates to paying players millions of dollars, and having a nice facility, and having a nice culture for players and CURRENTLY being a winning franchise that would and could give veteren players the chance at a super bowl, they are perfectly classy.
This post is another example of how off on tangents simple points and discussions go here. This (my lone point) is 100% about the Patriots being the only team in the NFL that would be running a 4 wide, no huddle offensive set with 1:16 to go in a blizzard against a dead, winless team that had quit with the score 38-0. Every other NFL team (IF in that situation) would be handing it off to a 3rd string RB and running clock to get off the field. They then come out in the second half and do it again. Whether other teams are good enough currently to do this is not relevant. Over the last 20 years many teams have been good enough.
I simply came here daring to have the option that it was in poor form to be running that kind of attack offense at 1:16 in that kind of game situation and then to do it again to come out for the 3rd quarter. They did the same thing 2 years ago. No team in the last 20 years has come close to doing anything like it. Many NFL insiders talked about this in 2007. You would think I kicked someones puppy off a cliff based on some of the reactions to me daring to have this opinion. Ahh, good ole' Renman...
Still the "Walking Filibuster" after all this time! 
Originally posted by Todd Zola:
[QB] It was 10-0 at the beginning of the 2nd quarter. A second quarter where everything went right for one team and everything wrong for the other had it at 38-0, Pats ball, right around the 2-minute warning.
What should the Patriots have done at this point?
They should have shifted into a conservative, clock running mode like every single other NFL team would have done
Put in the backup QB? I think telling another professional NFL team they have no chance of winning before the first half even ends is FAR MORE unsportsmanlike than playing hard.
Even with the starting QB they could have played that game situation the proper way with proper sportsmanship as opposed to making clear efforts to pad stats
So should they have just run the ball, already having lost their top-2 RB (Taylor and Morris) and hope to grind out a couple of first downs, taking the chance of punting in a snowstorm, where something can go wrong with the snap - or perhaps a return TD giving the Titans something positive as they head into the locker room? Is a 38-7 deficit at halftime completely insurmountable?
38-0, in a blizzard, against a dead team that had quit is an insurmountable lead and if by chance this team started to show signs of life in the second half the Patriots obviously would have been right to attack again.
Or do they play their game -- which on this day was Brady to Moss and Brady to Welker.
So now it is the beginning of the 3rd quarter and it is 45-0. Starting the second half with the backup QB is explainable - protecting Brady's health, so the unsportsmanlike spin is not as strong an argument as it was ending the first half. On the other hand, perhaps Tennessee is going to give Vince Young a shot and they already have a RB in Chris Johnson who is a threat to score every time he touches the ball. So in an effort to tell the Titans "don't even think about it", they keep Brady in and he of course leads them on another TD drive, heads to the sidelines, takes off his helmet and puts on a baseball cap, signifying his work day is done.
In a vacuum, without 2007 in the rear view mirror, is this scenario that egregious? Is it that low-class?
To me, and most of my NFL friends and colleagues, any many NFL media personalities, yes. And 2007 needs to be in the rearview mirror as that is part of why this act was interpreted that way. Had this team not done this in the past, this past Sunday would be viewed as an isolated incident.
As for any other teams doing similarly, how many teams have arguably one of the best QB and one of the best WR ever to play the game on the field, at the same time, in an era where passing is more prominent than running? No other teams have done this is as much because they are not capable as anything. I think suggesting 31 other teams do not do this because they are class organizations is myopic if not naive. They don't do it because they CAN'T do it. The prefect storm of having an unreal QB-WR duo along with a defense holding another team's offense to no points -- how often does that scenario even exist?
If the Patriots are such a classless organization, why do seasoned veterans, who would obviously be aware of this label if it existed within the NFL itself, continue to sign on with the team? Why don't players that leave the team, some against their will, come out and chastise the organization. If the organization is so classless, why is the front office and coaching staff annually raided by other teams? Why is the owner, Bob Kraft allowed on so many important NFL committees if he is in charge of a classless organization.
Could it be because within the circles that really count, they are not considered classless?
Hmm.
As it relates to running up the score, they are classless. As it relates to paying players millions of dollars, and having a nice facility, and having a nice culture for players and CURRENTLY being a winning franchise that would and could give veteren players the chance at a super bowl, they are perfectly classy.
This post is another example of how off on tangents simple points and discussions go here. This (my lone point) is 100% about the Patriots being the only team in the NFL that would be running a 4 wide, no huddle offensive set with 1:16 to go in a blizzard against a dead, winless team that had quit with the score 38-0. Every other NFL team (IF in that situation) would be handing it off to a 3rd string RB and running clock to get off the field. They then come out in the second half and do it again. Whether other teams are good enough currently to do this is not relevant. Over the last 20 years many teams have been good enough.
I simply came here daring to have the option that it was in poor form to be running that kind of attack offense at 1:16 in that kind of game situation and then to do it again to come out for the 3rd quarter. They did the same thing 2 years ago. No team in the last 20 years has come close to doing anything like it. Many NFL insiders talked about this in 2007. You would think I kicked someones puppy off a cliff based on some of the reactions to me daring to have this opinion. Ahh, good ole' Renman...
Still the "Walking Filibuster" after all this time!
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Renman,
Why does every team have to be the same? I know you didn't say that, rhetorical question. All the more power to the Patriots! Dare to be different!
If it makes some stuffy guy that thinks all teams should follow a code of ethics that only HE seems to endorse, WAY TO GO PATRIOTS!
You are very good at going mountains on mole hills.
Why does every team have to be the same? I know you didn't say that, rhetorical question. All the more power to the Patriots! Dare to be different!
If it makes some stuffy guy that thinks all teams should follow a code of ethics that only HE seems to endorse, WAY TO GO PATRIOTS!
You are very good at going mountains on mole hills.
Alge? Braylon? Knowshon?
C'mon parents!
Here are some names for football players.
Ouch, Hitcha, Juke, Blitz
C'mon parents!
Here are some names for football players.
Ouch, Hitcha, Juke, Blitz
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This thread has been bugging me all week. I think Renman doesn't own any Patriots and feels violated.
So you are on the golf course playing a match, you are up six holes on the turn. Are you wheeling out your 3 iron off the tee on the 595 Yd. par 5 10th hole? You're in command of the match and can coast home to victory right. Are you not trying to make that 10 foot birdie putt just to make your opponent feel better?
The Titans played like $hit in the second quarter. The Patriot's got on an incredible run. They did their job and the Titans failed at theirs. No team is going to claim victory at half time. The Patriots gave their offense one series in the second half. Again the Titans didn't do their job.
You made the point about Arizona. Arizona feels the best chance of winning is with Warner at the helm. He wasn't a 100 % entering the season. The are going to protect him if they can. They pulled him in the 4th quarter.
Don't you think a team would bury their opponent early if they could. Most teams can't. The Patriots had special team in 2007 and they could put teams away early.
If you play half throttle, you have a better chance of getting hurt. You play not to lose...you have already lost.
The Titan players are the only ones who should feel bad because they stole their money last week.
So you are on the golf course playing a match, you are up six holes on the turn. Are you wheeling out your 3 iron off the tee on the 595 Yd. par 5 10th hole? You're in command of the match and can coast home to victory right. Are you not trying to make that 10 foot birdie putt just to make your opponent feel better?
The Titans played like $hit in the second quarter. The Patriot's got on an incredible run. They did their job and the Titans failed at theirs. No team is going to claim victory at half time. The Patriots gave their offense one series in the second half. Again the Titans didn't do their job.
You made the point about Arizona. Arizona feels the best chance of winning is with Warner at the helm. He wasn't a 100 % entering the season. The are going to protect him if they can. They pulled him in the 4th quarter.
Don't you think a team would bury their opponent early if they could. Most teams can't. The Patriots had special team in 2007 and they could put teams away early.
If you play half throttle, you have a better chance of getting hurt. You play not to lose...you have already lost.
The Titan players are the only ones who should feel bad because they stole their money last week.
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Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
This thread has been bugging me all week. I think Renman doesn't own any Patriots and feels violated.
he does own LT2
This thread has been bugging me all week. I think Renman doesn't own any Patriots and feels violated.
he does own LT2
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Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:
quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
This thread has been bugging me all week. I think Renman doesn't own any Patriots and feels violated.
he does own LT2 [/QUOTE]All the more reason to feel violated .....JK
I think LT is solid moving forward.
Renman, I gotta tell you I do take exception to you calling the Pats a classless organization, that's why I have been opposed to your opinion(not fact) of the Pats.
As a Pats fan I can't ask for anything more.
1.They put a winning team on the field every year. (Just ask Raider fans if they would want that)
2.As far as coaches go BB works his a$$ off. The guy will dissect the smallest of details, just to make sure he gets it right. I bet Cowboys fans would swap Phillips for him in a heartbeat. (Eddie might have something to say about this though? )
3.Great stadium
4.Finally. From a Fantasy Football standpoint their players put up points! Based on this, ALL Brady, Moss and Welker owners can feel comfortable that they will not be running out the clock in the 2nd qtr like Renman would like them to do.
quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
This thread has been bugging me all week. I think Renman doesn't own any Patriots and feels violated.
he does own LT2 [/QUOTE]All the more reason to feel violated
.....JKI think LT is solid moving forward.
Renman, I gotta tell you I do take exception to you calling the Pats a classless organization, that's why I have been opposed to your opinion(not fact) of the Pats.
As a Pats fan I can't ask for anything more.
1.They put a winning team on the field every year. (Just ask Raider fans if they would want that)
2.As far as coaches go BB works his a$$ off. The guy will dissect the smallest of details, just to make sure he gets it right. I bet Cowboys fans would swap Phillips for him in a heartbeat. (Eddie might have something to say about this though? )
3.Great stadium
4.Finally. From a Fantasy Football standpoint their players put up points! Based on this, ALL Brady, Moss and Welker owners can feel comfortable that they will not be running out the clock in the 2nd qtr like Renman would like them to do.
Winning isn't everything, but the will to win is.
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Originally posted by Renman:
Nag,
You do realize for that last 20 years (and likely longer) every single NFL team has made efforts to NOT SCORE in an effort to run out the clock and or get off the field when a game has gotten out of hand.
You are aware of this right?
The Patriots are the only NFL team I have seen in the last 20 years at times not doing this.
That is my basic point. And my basic point is ... so what?? If they want to keep playing hard, good for them. If the other team gets pissed off, STOP THEM. you think this is an issue in the nfl and I don't. That's where we disagree.
Nag,
You do realize for that last 20 years (and likely longer) every single NFL team has made efforts to NOT SCORE in an effort to run out the clock and or get off the field when a game has gotten out of hand.
You are aware of this right?
The Patriots are the only NFL team I have seen in the last 20 years at times not doing this.
That is my basic point. And my basic point is ... so what?? If they want to keep playing hard, good for them. If the other team gets pissed off, STOP THEM. you think this is an issue in the nfl and I don't. That's where we disagree.