FFOC Investigation

Ted's Cracked Head · Post by **Ted's Cracked Head** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:56 pm

Do other leagues that draft in stages or over an extended period of time show them like that? That format is new to me.

I perosnally would not have made any drafts visible until they all were completed but that is me.

kjduke · Post by **kjduke** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:01 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:
Update: the folks at FFOC have made it so that now you can only view your own league rosters. Yesterday morning you were able to see every league using the URL in the first post of this thread. As of now, the following message appears:

"You don't have a team in this league, you can't view the rosters"

The investigation continues... Yeah I noticed that too.

kjduke · Post by **kjduke** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:04 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:
Update: the folks at FFOC have made it so that now you can only view your own league rosters. Yesterday morning you were able to see every league using the URL in the first post of this thread. As of now, the following message appears:

"You don't have a team in this league, you can't view the rosters"

The investigation continues... Is there any good reason why they would have done that? I'm trying to think to myself why they would as again the more leagues they get the more folks feel comfortable about this event. I wish I knew the answer here.

I wasn't able to talk to anyone at CDM about the cc swiping, but they were going to look into that for me and get back to me. [/QUOTE]Greg, the NFFC doesn't allow people to view all of the drafted rosters, why do you think other league should?

I was surprised you could see all the leagues; they probably closed it when they realized people figured out the URL to view all drafted rosters. Maybe BFD was posting all of them on his website.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:24 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:
quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:
Update: the folks at FFOC have made it so that now you can only view your own league rosters. Yesterday morning you were able to see every league using the URL in the first post of this thread. As of now, the following message appears:

"You don't have a team in this league, you can't view the rosters"

The investigation continues... Is there any good reason why they would have done that? I'm trying to think to myself why they would as again the more leagues they get the more folks feel comfortable about this event. I wish I knew the answer here.

I wasn't able to talk to anyone at CDM about the cc swiping, but they were going to look into that for me and get back to me. [/QUOTE]Greg, the NFFC doesn't allow people to view all of the drafted rosters, why do you think other league should?

I was surprised you could see all the leagues; they probably closed it when they realized people figured out the URL to view all drafted rosters. Maybe BFD was posting all of them on his website.

[/QUOTE]My point is exactly what Rob just said: Someone made a decision to make them viewable for the last several weeks and then made a decision to take them down without explaining. You can see from their boards that someone put the same URL that KOQ put here on how to view the completed drafts on their message boards and that was eliminated quicker than a Lenny-deleted post.

Just seems that Commissioner Jerry Rice should have explained his reasoning for doing that.

ultimatefs · Post by **ultimatefs** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:32 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
My point is exactly what Rob just said: Someone made a decision to make them viewable for the last several weeks and then made a decision to take them down without explaining. You can see from their boards that someone put the same URL that KOQ put here on how to view the completed drafts on their message boards and that was eliminated quicker than a Lenny-deleted post.

Just seems that Commissioner Jerry Rice should have explained his reasoning for doing that.

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Just playing DA here.... Closing off viewing of the leagues just might have not been programmed yet, as opposed to a decision upfront and KofQ gave them reason to.

The whole thing is rather odd though...

Ted's Cracked Head · Post by **Ted's Cracked Head** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:52 pm

Not odd, poorly done with no execution it seems but I joined anyway. Thus, a hobby gone wrong again. The lure ....

LFW · Post by **LFW** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:52 pm

John Z- you are right . This was the responce from the Board Moderator.
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"The expectation was not to allow anyone to see other teams. We are still considering different scenarios of an ADP data offering -- so check for that very soon. However, allowing all members to see all league rosters was not authorized and we fixed the issue.

Seth "

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I remember when Lou (BFD) was posting peoples drafts from here on his site and many here complained about their drafts being shown because sleepers and players they liked were revealed.
I've asked them to provide an ADP when they get time...but with players doing 3 and 10 packs of teams their opponents could research their previous drafts easily.

[ August 07, 2008, 11:10 PM: Message edited by: Lightning Fast Whip ]

Ted's Cracked Head · Post by **Ted's Cracked Head** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:54 pm

LFW, nice team by the by.

I did not see any sgins of collusion as I strolled through your league or the others on their MB. I do not think that is an issue at all.

LFW · Post by **LFW** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:56 pm

There are growing pains there.

How they handle all of them is being debated in a number of places. I'm rooting for them.

LFW · Post by **LFW** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:05 pm

Thanks Ted. I understand them checking it out because one team was a very weak drafter. But it wasn't collusion just a bad drafter. One advantage of that contest at that price is that not every team will be a good drafter.

For those that want new blood to be found and brought into Pay contests of fantasy football this contest at an introductory price and with their A.P. articles in newspapers...advertising all over the Web and tons of Magazine Ads could deliver...especially if their Marketing plan promoting the million $ winner is carried out by Len Gill and his Marketing company. BUT WITH NEWBIES MEANS SOME BAD DRAFTERS. I did have one in one of my leagues there. I also find a surprising number of drafters don't compute QBs values when you can start a 2nd as a flex.

Goodluck to you Ted...lets hope FFOC can put it all together. It's tough with all the skepticism and worrying going on but I'm hoping they can overcome it.

[ August 07, 2008, 11:15 PM: Message edited by: Lightning Fast Whip ]