Has this been proposed before?

mikeybok · Post by **mikeybok** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:54 am

Originally posted by Bald is Beautiful:
quote:Originally posted by Unintelligent Ugly Yellow Tomatoes:
Seriously, Renman

This is an example of you following someone around the message board and posting your same sorry argument right behind them (me). You have already posted this same basic post behind my post before.

You already proved your ignorance to me in this matter ... I don't need a refresher course ... trust me on this. I'm not saying your stupid ... you just missed the boat on this one ... I GOT IT! Oh boy, here we go.....

Expecting a Renman response and repeats of the same point over and over and over in 3....2....1.... [/QUOTE]LOL ... Renman and me are good (I think)

He claims he doesn't follow people around the board to argue the same points ... I caught him doing just that. And I pointed it out.

Renman got caught!

He thinks I'm ignorant about the very same subject. I said he's not stupid (I agree with him more often than not). He should not be offended by this post.

kentucky · Post by **kentucky** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:55 am

i can see this discusion going either way. injuries play SUCH a part in FF. it's bad luck if your stud WR gets hurt in either type of league. is it bad luck if you get outbid during the FAAB process or skill on other owners part not to let you pick him up. is it skill drafting enough WR's during a DC, or maybe the #3 WR on your injured players team, just in case one of your studs go down. isn't this what handcuffing is all about, and the skill to know when or if you handcuff.

IMO, i think DC's are more skill based in the draft and FAAB leagues are more skill based in dealing with the WW.

but both can be "unlucky".

Coltsfan · Post by **Coltsfan** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:43 pm

Mike,

Thanks for the call - it was great talking with you! I hate to admit it but I'm on board with Mike now.

Wayne

renman · Post by **renman** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:37 am

Ugly Tomatoes,

What in the world are you talking about? You have had some kind of fixation with me for years on this forum. I have no idea who you even are. What I can tell is you clearly have had success in DC formats and thus get sensitive when someone points out the 1 billion percent logical point that the DC format has a little more luck involved in the overall results than traditional formats where every single fantasy football skill set is tested.

You lost this debate last time you STARTED it and you will lose it again if you dared talk about the actual points and didn't try to divert attention from it with idiocy about who chases who. I was in this thread before you. Who chased who into it? Your kind of message board fragility and hostility is what has turned me off to this place in the past. I made a harmless point giving my opinion about a certain format and you snap.

A little less sensitivity would be a treat. WHO CARES which format has more luck? Why do you care so much that I (and coltsfan and likely many others) believe traditional format fantasy football is a little less luck based than DC formats?

I have outlined why I feel the way I do. You never once have even offered any argument or point (let alone a compelling one) that shows me to be wrong or ignorant on the subject. You've simply called me names or mocked.

Boring.

renman · Post by **renman** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:38 am

Originally posted by Coltsfan:
Mike,

Thanks for the call - it was great talking with you! I hate to admit it but I'm on board with Mike now.

Wayne Coltsfan,

The fact Mike (I guess that is ugly tomatoes) feels so strongly about this that he has to call you personally to tell you how to think (and I am sure whine some about my username on this forum) speaks volumes about my point.

Maybe in the future ugly tomatoes can private message me and outline for me what opinions I am allowed to have. That way I do not make the mistake of sharing an opinion that he has not approved yet.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:24 am

Hey Mike, thanks for the tomato basket - delish! Totally agree with you on the DC's

renman · Post by **renman** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:33 am

Quahogs,

You seem sane. Maybe you can offer some rational logic as to why the DC format has less luck involved and/or more skill than traditional format fantasy football. Rather than just calling me names and saying "I have lots of compelling arguments to support my viewpoint" while never expressing one.

Having said that, in the grand scheme of things, is it really that big a deal? Does this really matter that much? This debate/discussion is happening because Mike threw an immediate hostile fit over my making what I thought was a very benign innocuous point in a different thread several weeks ago.

I would be the first person to open my mind to another way of seeing things (I initially argued against 3RR and later changed my mind due to logical viewpoints being expressed). I have never played a DC league. Maybe my perceptions are wrong? I am hoping you can outline what I am missing because as someone who loves competitive fantasy football, this could open up a new event for me.

Why do DC leagues require more skill than traditional format leagues and/or why is luck less of a factor in the results?

[ October 20, 2010, 08:36 AM: Message edited by: Renman ]

Coltsfan · Post by **Coltsfan** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:37 am

Originally posted by Renman:
quote:Originally posted by Coltsfan:
Mike,

Thanks for the call - it was great talking with you! I hate to admit it but I'm on board with Mike now.

Wayne Coltsfan,

The fact Mike (I guess that is ugly tomatoes) feels so strongly about this that he has to call you personally to tell you how to think (and I am sure whine some about my username on this forum) speaks volumes about my point.

Maybe in the future ugly tomatoes can private message me and outline for me what opinions I am allowed to have. That way I do not make the mistake of sharing an opinion that he has not approved yet. [/QUOTE]Renman,

Mike and I are friends and the fact that we have a conversation honestly has nothing to do with you. I was interested in what he had to say so he gave me a call last night. He made some good points that I honestly hadn't considered - that was it. The conversation had nothing to do with a message board dispute - it was just 2 friends talking fantasy football. That's one of the things that makes this so much fun!

Wayne

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:48 am

Unless you have played in a DC, how do you have any clue what it takes to win one? There's more skill involved in looking waaay into the future, opposed to being reactive based off of last weeks performances.

James, here's an argument:

Morons win "regular" fantasy leagues all the time, I've yet to see one win a DC.