Trendsetters 2016

Sandman62
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Re: Trendsetters 2016

Post by Sandman62 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:39 pm

Coltsfan wrote:I only see about 16 or 17 kickers that are assured jobs right now and I could be high on that number. I went 2 kickers before grabbing my second defense just because I don't want to lose the league on the wrong kicker choice. I ended up with Bailey and Prater who are both signed and seem like locks for their teams. But it could be really easy to end up without a kicker this year.
I too took a 2nd kicker already (K1 Catanzaro), but I wasn't at all thrilled with my selection: Robbie Gould.
Though he was the 6th best fantasy kicker last year, he missed several key FGs and he carries a high salary.

Let's hope this assessment is accurate though:
If the Bears were up against the salary cap, I could see them entertaining the thought of cutting Gould, but with $60+ million available, it doesn't make any sense to move on from him.
http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2016/2 ... ve-on-from

And if they do cut him, with how many kicker injuries and other cuts are prevalent now, I suspect he'll land somewhere else soon.

BigBlueNation
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Re: Trendsetters 2016

Post by BigBlueNation » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:55 am

My team after Phase II and through thirteen rounds...

QB...ARodgers, KCousins
RB...DFreeman, DLewis, DWoodhead
WR...JLandry, JEdelman, BPerriman
TE...GOlsen
PK...SHauschka, JTucker
D/ST...Pitt, GB

This phase had most getting their backup QB, plus we went through the necessary evil of the PK and D/ST runs. I was fortunate to be on the front of the PK run and in the middle of the D/ST run. I also added Woodhead and Perriman to the roster in this phase. If it comes out like I think, all of my skill position players, save Perriman, are PPR studs with Perriman being a home run threat.

I'm usually the one to take the early PK, especially in a 14 team DC when I'm on the end of the draft (13 slot this year). After the first fifteen to eighteen are gone, the pickens' start to get slim. I'd rather go ahead, grab two that are signed and have job security than play the guessing game later. I'm less likely to jump on an early D/ST, because they tend to adjust from year to year. Chances are the good ones are going to be good and the bad ones are going to be bad, but the mediocre D's from the previous year can add a player or two and improve accordingly.

All in all, I'm happy with my start, but as has been said earlier, in September I'll look back and ask myself.."WTF was I thinking?"
Bill Cleavenger
UK Wildcats...We don't rebuild, we "RELOAD"

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Re: Trendsetters 2016

Post by Sandman62 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:27 am

So it's been a long three weeks waiting for this draft to start back up, exacerbated by the frantic first week of free agency and the anticipation that brings for where the players with new homes will be drafted when we start again tonight. Suffice it to say that I'm not thrilled with having to watch 11 picks go before I get another shot. :cry:

While waiting, I've been wondering which players so far through the first 13 rounds look like the best values, as well as some who may look a bit more like reaches at least for now. The closest I could come up with at this point - seeing this is the Trendsetters draft and we don't yet have any NFFC ADP data - was to use data from MFL 12-team PPR drafts. It's probably close enough to get a decent idea. And by using positional ranks instead of overal ADP, that should help reduce some of the differences due to scoring formats and our draft being a DC instead of a redraft.

Some interesting values (at least as much as any of this matters in March! ;)). In the highlighting below, I somewhat-arbitrarily set the threshold for how far apart the ADP was from the draft spot at 7 spots, just to highlight some players; feel free to draw your own conclusions. Green players (7) seem to be great values so far; red players (11) maybe not so much - though it's also quite likely that the ADP of the masses just hasn't yet caught up with us Trendsetters? :lol:

Enjoy! See you all at 6pm tonight!

Num Player Drafted ADP
1 Antonio Brown WR01 WR01
2 Julio Jones WR02 WR03
3 Odell Beckham WR03 WR02
4 Deandre Hopkins WR04 WR04
5 Todd Gurley RB01 RB02
6 Allen Robinson WR05 WR05
7 AJ Green WR06 WR07
8 Brandin Cooks WR07 WR16
9 David Johnson RB02 RB03
10 Leveon Bell RB03 RB01
11 Adrian Peterson RB04 RB04
12 Sammy Watkins WR08 WR12
13 Devonta Freeman RB05 RB05
14 Brandon Marshall WR09 WR15
15 Dez Bryant WR10 WR06
16 Jarvis Landry WR11 WR17
17 Alshon Jeffery WR12 WR08
18 Rob Gronkowski TE01 TE01
19 Keenan Allen WR13 WR10
20 Jordy Nelson WR14 WR13
21 Mike Evans WR15 WR09
22 Martavis Bryant WR16 WR22
23 Demaryius Thomas WR17 WR14
24 Amari Cooper WR18 WR11
25 Jamaal Charles RB06 RB06
26 TY Hilton WR19 WR18
27 Kelvin Benjamin WR20 WR23
28 Randall Cobb WR21 WR20
29 Jeremy Maclin WR22 WR24
30 Julian Edelman WR23 WR19
31 Doug Martin RB07 RB10
32 Larry Fitzgerald WR24 WR33
33 Doug Baldwin WR25 WR32

34 Jordan Matthews WR26 WR25
35 Thomas Rawls RB08 RB08
36 Golden Tate WR27 WR27
37 Eric Decker WR28 WR28
38 Mark Ingram RB09 RB09
39 Michael Floyd WR29 WR30
40 Emmanuel Sanders WR30 WR31
41 Jordan Reed TE02 TE02
42 Devante Parker WR31 WR26
43 TJ Yeldon RB10 RB13
44 Cam Newton QB01 QB01
45 John Brown WR32 WR34
46 Josh Gordon WR33 WR21
47 CJ Anderson RB11 RB15
48 Lamar Miller RB12 RB07
49 Tyler Eifert TE03 TE03
50 Michael Crabtree WR34 WR39
51 Jeremy Langford RB13 RB17
52 Rookie 1 RB14 #N/A
53 Matt Forte RB15 RB14
54 Allen Hurns WR35 WR35
55 Greg Olsen TE04 TE04
56 Javorius Allen RB16 RB35
57 DeMarco Murray RB17 RB19
58 Aaron Rodgers QB02 QB03
59 Delanie Walker TE05 TE06
60 Tom Brady QB03 QB06
61 Andrew Luck QB04 QB02
62 Ben Roethlisberger QB05 QB05
63 Russell Wilson QB06 QB04
64 Donte Moncrief WR36 WR29
65 Blake Bortles QB07 QB08
66 Drew Brees QB08 QB07
67 Carson Palmer QB09 QB09
68 Derek Carr QB10 QB11
69 Latavius Murray RB18 RB21
70 Travis Kelce TE06 TE05
71 Jameis Winston QB11 QB10
72 Kevin White WR37 WR36
73 Eli Manning QB12 QB15
74 LeSean McCoy RB19 RB18
75 Eddie Lacy RB20 RB11
76 Tyler Lockett WR38 WR37
77 Andy Dalton QB13 QB14
78 Karlos Williams RB21 RB31
79 Zach Ertz TE07 TE07
80 Stefon Diggs WR39 WR40
81 Dorial Beckham WR40 #N/A
82 Philip Rivers QB14 QB13
83 Dion Lewis RB22 RB20
84 Tony Romo QB15 QB16
85 Melvin Gordon RB23 RB23
86 Breshad Perriman WR41 WR42
87 Carlos Hyde RB24 RB16
88 DeSean Jackson WR42 WR41
89 Ameer Abdullah RB25 RB30
90 Theo Riddick RB26 RB37
91 Jay Ajayi RB27 RB33
92 Rookie 2 #N/A
93 Chris Ivory RB28 RB34
94 Jeremy Hill RB29 RB22
95 Jonathan Stewart RB30 RB24
96 Gio Bernard RB31 #N/A
97 Charles Sims RB32 RB32
98 Duke Johnson RB33 RB27
99 Matt Jones RB34 RB29
100 Tavon Austin WR43 WR47
101 Marcus Mariota QB16 QB12
102 Julius Thomas TE08 TE09
103 Matt Ryan QB17 QB17
104 Gary Barnidge TE09 TE08
105 Tyrod Taylor QB18 QB19
106 Ryan Tannehill QB19 QB21
107 Willie Snead WR44 WR43
108 Matthew Stafford QB20 QB20
109 Rookie 3 #N/A
110 Ryan Fitzpatrick QB21 QB25
111 Kirk Cousins QB22 QB18
112 Jay Cutler QB23 QB23
113 Steve Smith WR45 WR48
114 Danny Woodhead RB35 RB26
115 Ryan Mathews RB36 RB38
116 Brock Osweiler QB24 QB28
117 Kendall Wright WR46 WR46
118 Calvin Johnson WR47 #N/A
119 Marvin Jones WR48 WR45
120 Frank Gore RB37 RB40
121 Joe Flacco QB25 QB24
122 Arian Foster RB38 #N/A
123 Teddy Bridgewater QB26 QB26
124 Jason Witten TE10 TE20
125 Alex Smith QB27 QB22
126 Sam Bradford QB28 QB29
127 Rishard Matthews WR49 WR65
128 Kamar Aiken WR50 WR53
129 Darren Sproles RB39 RB65
130 Rookie 4 #N/A
131 Stephen Gostkowski PK #N/A
132 Deangelo Williams RB40 RB50
133 Bilal Powell RB41 RB44
134 Jerick McKinnon RB42 RB46
135 Eric Ebron TE11 TE11
136 Jamison Crowder WR51 WR61
137 Vincent Jackson WR52 WR54
138 Nelson Agholor WR53 WR51
139 Steven Hauschka PK #N/A
140 Antonio Gates TE12 TE16
141 Coby Fleener TE13 TE18
142 Justin Tucker PK #N/A
143 Chandler Catanzaro PK #N/A
144 Graham Gano PK #N/A
145 Dan Bailey PK #N/A
146 Cairo Santos PK #N/A
147 Mason Crosby PK #N/A
148 Brandon McManus PK #N/A
149 Chris Boswell PK #N/A
150 Blair Walsh PK #N/A
151 Josh Brown PK #N/A
152 Jason Myers PK #N/A
153 Adam Vinatieri PK #N/A
154 Josh Lambo PK #N/A
155 DEN DEF #N/A
156 ARI DEF #N/A
157 Matt Bryant PK #N/A
158 SEA DEF #N/A
159 CAR DEF #N/A
160 KC DEF #N/A
161 Travis Benjamin WR54 WR49
162 NE DEF #N/A
163 HOU DEF #N/A
164 LA DEF #N/A
165 MIN DEF #N/A
166 CIN DEF #N/A
167 PIT DEF #N/A
168 NYJ DEF #N/A
169 Nick Folk PK #N/A
170 GB DEF #N/A
171 Robbie Gould PK #N/A
172 PHI DEF #N/A
173 Matt Prater PK #N/A
174 IND DEF #N/A
175 Dustin Hopkins PK #N/A
176 BUF DEF #N/A
177 Mike Nugent PK #N/A
178 MIA DEF #N/A
179 DET DEF #N/A
180 WAS DEF #N/A
181 Tevin Coleman RB43 RB41
182 Cody Parkey PK #N/A

BigBlueNation
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Re: Trendsetters 2016

Post by BigBlueNation » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:45 am

Sandman62 wrote:So it's been a long three weeks waiting for this draft to start back up, exacerbated by the frantic first week of free agency and the anticipation that brings for where the players with new homes will be drafted when we start again tonight. Suffice it to say that I'm not thrilled with having to watch 11 picks go before I get another shot. :cry:

While waiting, I've been wondering which players so far through the first 13 rounds look like the best values, as well as some who may look a bit more like reaches at least for now. The closest I could come up with at this point - seeing this is the Trendsetters draft and we don't yet have any NFFC ADP data - was to use data from MFL 12-team PPR drafts. It's probably close enough to get a decent idea. And by using positional ranks instead of overal ADP, that should help reduce some of the differences due to scoring formats and our draft being a DC instead of a redraft.

Some interesting values (at least as much as any of this matters in March! ;)). In the highlighting below, I somewhat-arbitrarily set the threshold for how far apart the ADP was from the draft spot at 7 spots, just to highlight some players; feel free to draw your own conclusions. Green players (7) seem to be great values so far; red players (11) maybe not so much - though it's also quite likely that the ADP of the masses just hasn't yet caught up with us Trendsetters? :lol:

Enjoy! See you all at 6pm tonight!

Num Player Drafted ADP
1 Antonio Brown WR01 WR01
2 Julio Jones WR02 WR03
3 Odell Beckham WR03 WR02
4 Deandre Hopkins WR04 WR04
5 Todd Gurley RB01 RB02
6 Allen Robinson WR05 WR05
7 AJ Green WR06 WR07
8 Brandin Cooks WR07 WR16
9 David Johnson RB02 RB03
10 Leveon Bell RB03 RB01
11 Adrian Peterson RB04 RB04
12 Sammy Watkins WR08 WR12
13 Devonta Freeman RB05 RB05
14 Brandon Marshall WR09 WR15
15 Dez Bryant WR10 WR06
16 Jarvis Landry WR11 WR17
17 Alshon Jeffery WR12 WR08
18 Rob Gronkowski TE01 TE01
19 Keenan Allen WR13 WR10
20 Jordy Nelson WR14 WR13
21 Mike Evans WR15 WR09
22 Martavis Bryant WR16 WR22
23 Demaryius Thomas WR17 WR14
24 Amari Cooper WR18 WR11
25 Jamaal Charles RB06 RB06
26 TY Hilton WR19 WR18
27 Kelvin Benjamin WR20 WR23
28 Randall Cobb WR21 WR20
29 Jeremy Maclin WR22 WR24
30 Julian Edelman WR23 WR19
31 Doug Martin RB07 RB10
32 Larry Fitzgerald WR24 WR33
33 Doug Baldwin WR25 WR32

34 Jordan Matthews WR26 WR25
35 Thomas Rawls RB08 RB08
36 Golden Tate WR27 WR27
37 Eric Decker WR28 WR28
38 Mark Ingram RB09 RB09
39 Michael Floyd WR29 WR30
40 Emmanuel Sanders WR30 WR31
41 Jordan Reed TE02 TE02
42 Devante Parker WR31 WR26
43 TJ Yeldon RB10 RB13
44 Cam Newton QB01 QB01
45 John Brown WR32 WR34
46 Josh Gordon WR33 WR21
47 CJ Anderson RB11 RB15
48 Lamar Miller RB12 RB07
49 Tyler Eifert TE03 TE03
50 Michael Crabtree WR34 WR39
51 Jeremy Langford RB13 RB17
52 Rookie 1 RB14 #N/A
53 Matt Forte RB15 RB14
54 Allen Hurns WR35 WR35
55 Greg Olsen TE04 TE04
56 Javorius Allen RB16 RB35
57 DeMarco Murray RB17 RB19
58 Aaron Rodgers QB02 QB03
59 Delanie Walker TE05 TE06
60 Tom Brady QB03 QB06
61 Andrew Luck QB04 QB02
62 Ben Roethlisberger QB05 QB05
63 Russell Wilson QB06 QB04
64 Donte Moncrief WR36 WR29
65 Blake Bortles QB07 QB08
66 Drew Brees QB08 QB07
67 Carson Palmer QB09 QB09
68 Derek Carr QB10 QB11
69 Latavius Murray RB18 RB21
70 Travis Kelce TE06 TE05
71 Jameis Winston QB11 QB10
72 Kevin White WR37 WR36
73 Eli Manning QB12 QB15
74 LeSean McCoy RB19 RB18
75 Eddie Lacy RB20 RB11
76 Tyler Lockett WR38 WR37
77 Andy Dalton QB13 QB14
78 Karlos Williams RB21 RB31
79 Zach Ertz TE07 TE07
80 Stefon Diggs WR39 WR40
81 Dorial Beckham WR40 #N/A
82 Philip Rivers QB14 QB13
83 Dion Lewis RB22 RB20
84 Tony Romo QB15 QB16
85 Melvin Gordon RB23 RB23
86 Breshad Perriman WR41 WR42
87 Carlos Hyde RB24 RB16
88 DeSean Jackson WR42 WR41
89 Ameer Abdullah RB25 RB30
90 Theo Riddick RB26 RB37
91 Jay Ajayi RB27 RB33
92 Rookie 2 #N/A
93 Chris Ivory RB28 RB34
94 Jeremy Hill RB29 RB22
95 Jonathan Stewart RB30 RB24
96 Gio Bernard RB31 #N/A
97 Charles Sims RB32 RB32
98 Duke Johnson RB33 RB27
99 Matt Jones RB34 RB29
100 Tavon Austin WR43 WR47
101 Marcus Mariota QB16 QB12
102 Julius Thomas TE08 TE09
103 Matt Ryan QB17 QB17
104 Gary Barnidge TE09 TE08
105 Tyrod Taylor QB18 QB19
106 Ryan Tannehill QB19 QB21
107 Willie Snead WR44 WR43
108 Matthew Stafford QB20 QB20
109 Rookie 3 #N/A
110 Ryan Fitzpatrick QB21 QB25
111 Kirk Cousins QB22 QB18
112 Jay Cutler QB23 QB23
113 Steve Smith WR45 WR48
114 Danny Woodhead RB35 RB26
115 Ryan Mathews RB36 RB38
116 Brock Osweiler QB24 QB28
117 Kendall Wright WR46 WR46
118 Calvin Johnson WR47 #N/A
119 Marvin Jones WR48 WR45
120 Frank Gore RB37 RB40
121 Joe Flacco QB25 QB24
122 Arian Foster RB38 #N/A
123 Teddy Bridgewater QB26 QB26
124 Jason Witten TE10 TE20
125 Alex Smith QB27 QB22
126 Sam Bradford QB28 QB29
127 Rishard Matthews WR49 WR65
128 Kamar Aiken WR50 WR53
129 Darren Sproles RB39 RB65
130 Rookie 4 #N/A
131 Stephen Gostkowski PK #N/A
132 Deangelo Williams RB40 RB50
133 Bilal Powell RB41 RB44
134 Jerick McKinnon RB42 RB46
135 Eric Ebron TE11 TE11
136 Jamison Crowder WR51 WR61
137 Vincent Jackson WR52 WR54
138 Nelson Agholor WR53 WR51
139 Steven Hauschka PK #N/A
140 Antonio Gates TE12 TE16
141 Coby Fleener TE13 TE18
142 Justin Tucker PK #N/A
143 Chandler Catanzaro PK #N/A
144 Graham Gano PK #N/A
145 Dan Bailey PK #N/A
146 Cairo Santos PK #N/A
147 Mason Crosby PK #N/A
148 Brandon McManus PK #N/A
149 Chris Boswell PK #N/A
150 Blair Walsh PK #N/A
151 Josh Brown PK #N/A
152 Jason Myers PK #N/A
153 Adam Vinatieri PK #N/A
154 Josh Lambo PK #N/A
155 DEN DEF #N/A
156 ARI DEF #N/A
157 Matt Bryant PK #N/A
158 SEA DEF #N/A
159 CAR DEF #N/A
160 KC DEF #N/A
161 Travis Benjamin WR54 WR49
162 NE DEF #N/A
163 HOU DEF #N/A
164 LA DEF #N/A
165 MIN DEF #N/A
166 CIN DEF #N/A
167 PIT DEF #N/A
168 NYJ DEF #N/A
169 Nick Folk PK #N/A
170 GB DEF #N/A
171 Robbie Gould PK #N/A
172 PHI DEF #N/A
173 Matt Prater PK #N/A
174 IND DEF #N/A
175 Dustin Hopkins PK #N/A
176 BUF DEF #N/A
177 Mike Nugent PK #N/A
178 MIA DEF #N/A
179 DET DEF #N/A
180 WAS DEF #N/A
181 Tevin Coleman RB43 RB41
182 Cody Parkey PK #N/A
Thank goodness I didn't have any RED players, I would have been concerned... :shock:
Bill Cleavenger
UK Wildcats...We don't rebuild, we "RELOAD"

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Re: Trendsetters 2016

Post by BigBlueNation » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:53 pm

Phase III of Trendsetters is complete....Here's my team

QB...ARodgers..KCousins
RB...DFreeman..DLewis..DWoodhead..KCarey..JWhite
WR...JLandry..JEdelman..BPerriman..MWheaton..DAmendola
TE...GOlsen..JGraham
PK..SHauschka..JTucker
D/ST..Pitt..GB..SD

Rookie 6
Bill Cleavenger
UK Wildcats...We don't rebuild, we "RELOAD"

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