This game could set football back 60 years!!!

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:56 am

Originally posted by The Franchise:
If the Broncos ran the offense all the time like they did on that last drive, Tebow would be a 30 point QB.

I thought Sanchez was harder to watch than Tebow tonight. With the talent he has, he needs to find a way to win games like last night. Sorry Glenn and Glenn I agree Nelson, but it seems like Tebow can't do ANYTHING until the 4th quarter.

They should play Orton for 3 and a half quarters and then bring Tebow in.....seriously.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:04 am

Originally posted by The Franchise:
If the Broncos ran the offense all the time like they did on that last drive, Tebow would be a 30 point QB.They had two drives where they moved the ball effectively - the first and last. On both, they allowed Tebow to play to his strengths both in terms of running the ball and moving the pocket to give him some run/pass options (the shuttle pass to Ball was a great play on the first drive). Not surprisingly, those were their two best drives of the game. EVERY other drive they reduced Tebow to playing in the pocket and not giving him a chance to run. Shockingly, they didn't do well at all.

It never ceases to amaze me when NFL coaches make the game more difficult than it needs to be. Had the Broncos stayed with the game plan they employed at the start of the game they probably win easily since the Jets are a complete mess offensively. We'll see if Fox learned anything from last night's win.

Old School · Post by **Old School** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:22 am

No one mentioned the 4 dropped passes by the Broncos in the second half. They have the worst running backs and WR's in the league. Aaron Rodgers couldnt even function with this talent

Best play of the night, watching Darell Revis play matador as Tebow was about to flatten him. or was that Deion Sanders?

Jersey Dawg · Post by **Jersey Dawg** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:53 am

Jets are going to win the Super Bowl this year. If you don't believe me, just ask Rex Ryan.... LOL..

particra · Post by **particra** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:24 am

Originally posted by Old School:
No one mentioned the 4 dropped passes by the Broncos in the second half. They have the worst running backs and WR's in the league. Aaron Rodgers couldnt even function with this talent

Best play of the night, watching Darell Revis play matador as Tebow was about to flatten him. or was that Deion Sanders? Oh, stop. Other than the Decker pass, the rest of the throws were awful.

Why can't people on both sides just accept Tebow for what he is? He's a wonderful person (apparently, but at the end of the day who knows), a great leader, a great athlete, and one of the worst throwers of the football to play the QB position in recent memory. He has a ridiculous windup throwing motion but he's incredibly tough. He's a solid fantasy play but not elite. He's one of the best runners from the QB position I've ever seen but he's almost impossibly inaccurate and would be a turnover machine if he was required to to play the QB position like most QBs do or if his team needed him to put up 30 points a game, He has virtually no chance of ever leading his team to a Super Bowl (except in the event that the Broncos turn into the 2000 Ravens on D) and he's likely to get injured if he has to continue to run the offense this way because no one can take that type of beating for a long period of time. He's a one-man wrecking crew that by definition will stunt the growth of any young receivers on this team because of the style of play Denver is required to implement to accomodate his skillset. He's unorthodox but likely no worse (from a results perspective) than any number of "system QBs/game managers" that get passed around the league - it's just that the system needs to be run differently.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:27 am

I thought Decker dropped two passes for what it's worth. Royal ran a poor route on a third-down completion that also hurt Tebow. If Royal gets more depth on his route like he should have that drive keeps going. Tebow made a number of poor throws as usual but his WRs weren't always helping him out last night.

Sandman62 · Post by **Sandman62** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:44 am

Originally posted by Hells Satans:
quote:Originally posted by Old School:
No one mentioned the 4 dropped passes by the Broncos in the second half. They have the worst running backs and WR's in the league. Aaron Rodgers couldnt even function with this talent

Best play of the night, watching Darell Revis play matador as Tebow was about to flatten him. or was that Deion Sanders? Oh, stop. Other than the Decker pass, the rest of the throws were awful.

Why can't people on both sides just accept Tebow for what he is? He's a wonderful person (apparently, but at the end of the day who knows), a great leader, a great athlete, and one of the worst throwers of the football to play the QB position in recent memory. He has a ridiculous windup throwing motion but he's incredibly tough. He's a solid fantasy play but not elite. He's one of the best runners from the QB position I've ever seen but he's almost impossibly inaccurate and would be a turnover machine if he was required to to play the QB position like most QBs do or if his team needed him to put up 30 points a game, He has virtually no chance of ever leading his team to a Super Bowl (except in the event that the Broncos turn into the 2000 Ravens on D) and he's likely to get injured if he has to continue to run the offense this way because no one can take that type of beating for a long period of time. He's a one-man wrecking crew that by definition will stunt the growth of any young receivers on this team because of the style of play Denver is required to implement to accomodate his skillset. He's unorthodox but likely no worse (from a results perspective) than any number of "system QBs/game managers" that get passed around the league - it's just that the system needs to be run differently. [/QUOTE]That is quite the accurate summary!

Cocktails and Dreams · Post by **Cocktails and Dreams** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:58 am

Read option has ran its course. If you go with Tebow you have to use him as the tailback like last night with the defense spread out. Uptempo with that style is very effective. Tired linemen and linebackers will struggle to handle him if he can just complete some here or there tou keep the extra safety out of the box. Sprinkle in a little read option but not make it the base.

The Franchise · Post by **The Franchise** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:15 pm

Originally posted by BillyWaz:
quote:Originally posted by The Franchise:
If the Broncos ran the offense all the time like they did on that last drive, Tebow would be a 30 point QB.

I thought Sanchez was harder to watch than Tebow tonight. With the talent he has, he needs to find a way to win games like last night. Sorry Glenn and Glenn I agree Nelson, but it seems like Tebow can't do ANYTHING until the 4th quarter.

They should play Orton for 3 and a half quarters and then bring Tebow in.....seriously. [/QUOTE]I have watched every one of his games. While he can't be asked to throw it up 40 times a game and be successful at this stage of his career, he does appear to be able to put points on the board if the play calling wasn't so awful.

Like Tom stated, the first and last drive were the two best drives of the game. The play calls were a lot different though.

Old School · Post by **Old School** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:05 am

Originally posted by Hells Satans:
quote:Originally posted by Old School:
No one mentioned the 4 dropped passes by the Broncos in the second half. They have the worst running backs and WR's in the league. Aaron Rodgers couldnt even function with this talent

Best play of the night, watching Darell Revis play matador as Tebow was about to flatten him. or was that Deion Sanders? Oh, stop. Other than the Decker pass, the rest of the throws were awful.

Why can't people on both sides just accept Tebow for what he is? He's a wonderful person (apparently, but at the end of the day who knows), a great leader, a great athlete, and one of the worst throwers of the football to play the QB position in recent memory. He has a ridiculous windup throwing motion but he's incredibly tough. He's a solid fantasy play but not elite. He's one of the best runners from the QB position I've ever seen but he's almost impossibly inaccurate and would be a turnover machine if he was required to to play the QB position like most QBs do or if his team needed him to put up 30 points a game, He has virtually no chance of ever leading his team to a Super Bowl (except in the event that the Broncos turn into the 2000 Ravens on D) and he's likely to get injured if he has to continue to run the offense this way because no one can take that type of beating for a long period of time. He's a one-man wrecking crew that by definition will stunt the growth of any young receivers on this team because of the style of play Denver is required to implement to accomodate his skillset. He's unorthodox but likely no worse (from a results perspective) than any number of "system QBs/game managers" that get passed around the league - it's just that the system needs to be run differently. [/QUOTE]stop what, the truth?