Is 160 the new 140?

da bears · Post by **da bears** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:20 am

Yeah crazy scoring the first two weeks. I think things will slow down especially with upcoming bye weeks and the rash of significant injuries that is likely to continue.

[ September 19, 2011, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: da bears ]

Sandman62 · Post by **Sandman62** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:25 am

I was thinking the same thing this morning, but then wondered if we looked at prior years, are the numbers always higher before byes too? I mean, if 140-145 is usually a good enough AVERAGE to make the playoffs, then it would stand to reason that if the scores are usually lower during bye weeks, that they'd be HIGHER before and after them.

renman · Post by **renman** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:31 am

I wonder how much the kickoff rule impacts this. In the past, teams routinely started drives at the 30 or 40 yard line. Now, with the extra touchbacks, that is 20+ yards of production for offensive players several times per game.

Obviously this doesn't explain the massive numbers (I think the lockout resulted in some chaos on defenses and a lack of ability to game play as much early in the season) but I wonder how much it impacts.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:35 am

I think it's because there are more fantasy starters than ever before. Years ago in the NFL, if you had 2 good WR's, you were stacked...Barnett and Calvin Williams...Jeffries and Givins...But now some teams have 3 wr's AND a TE, and 2/3! RB's on their squad that can run and catch. This, in my opinion, is raising the flex position's points in fantasy and in turn showing a higher score total across the board.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:43 am

Originally posted by Stealth SNAKE:
Historically speaking, if an NFFC Classic squad were to average 140 points per week their owner would be considered a pretty sure thing for if not a league title, well then at least a playoff berth in the NFFC...I think that the first two weeks of the 2011 season (well, almost anyway) are going to smoke that number off the gridiron...based on the (only) two week data thus far it certainly does indeed seem like that new magic overall weekly average points number has been elevated just a wee bit this year, eh fellow FF freaks and ghouls?

... Extremely small sample size and prior to the bye weeks. Let's see if this holds up for the balance of the season. Now that injuries are starting to hit hard and heavy, I'm guessing it doesn't last another week.

BillyWaz · Post by **BillyWaz** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:47 am

Yea....definitely more scoring the first couple of weeks, but injuries starting to mount, bye weeks, and defenses catching up to offenses (thought it would be reversed early on), and things should gravitate to the norm quickly.

mattjb · Post by **mattjb** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:12 am

140 points can't even get me a win in all play right now. i know that was good enough last year in the first 2 weeks.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:43 am

Originally posted by Sandman62:
I was thinking the same thing this morning, but then wondered if we looked at prior years, are the numbers always higher before byes too? I mean, if 140-145 is usually a good enough AVERAGE to make the playoffs, then it would stand to reason that if the scores are usually lower during bye weeks, that they'd be HIGHER before and after them. The top scores in Week 1 set new NFFC scoring records for opening week in both the Classic and Primetime. The Classic is in its 8th season and that high point total was surpassed by 20+ points, so I think we are seeing an increase in scoring across the board. Here are/were the NFFC records for the first 2 weeks before this season:

NFBC Classic Weekly Scoring Records:
Highest Week 1 Score:
Joe Marcotte, lights out, 197.35; 2007

Highest Week 2 Score:
Eddie Gillis, Eddie's KingDOM, 226.65; 2008

NFBC Primetime Weekly Scoring Records:
Highest Week 1 Score:
Danny Dietrick, DIRTY DEEDS, 194.65 (2009)

Highest Week 2 Score:
Chris Vaccaro, THE GST, 206.75 (2009)

particra · Post by **particra** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:03 am

My guess is that more plays are being run then ever before. Teams like NE and GB and NO and Det are running much more up tempo offenses, running a lot more no huddle, and taking more snaps. The increase in passing attempts also means more clock stoppages and even more plays.